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Re: Oversized performance board instead of longboard or allrounder?
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2019, 05:03:04 AM »
Every company should make a board like what we're talking about. It just needs to be low volume. Only a very small percentage of riders need more than 150 liters.

Actually, Jimmy Lewis has the right idea with the Super Frank. Make one version for lighter riders and another version for heavy riders. It seems to be an industry wide misconception that big boards need lots of volume.
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Re: Oversized performance board instead of longboard or allrounder?
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2019, 05:07:56 AM »
Every company should make a board like what we're talking about. It just needs to be low volume. Only a very small percentage of riders need more than 150 liters.

Actually, Jimmy Lewis has the right idea with the Super Frank. Make one version for lighter riders and another version for heavy riders. It seems to be an industry wide misconception that big boards need lots of volume.
I agree - but I want boards that are longer and narrower. It was actually easier to get boards like this 10 years ago than it is now.

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Re: Oversized performance board instead of longboard or allrounder?
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2019, 06:34:05 AM »
@ ninja tuna

Thanks of posting the videos sup surfing the 12' PSH Gun. I really enjoyed watching these two videos. I especially liked the young boy surfing his white colored PSH Gun in those small, at times, mushy type of waves.

What really caught my eye though, at the 0.51 second mark of the video, the boy is spinning the Gun around in a circle. When he was on the nose, the tail end of his board came out of the water where I could see the 4 fin quad setup he was using.

This is the same 4 fin quad setup I use on my 11'1" board. Works well in both tiny and small waves which I encountered a lot in 2018 down at Surfside, Texas.

Again, thanks for sharing both videos.

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Re: Oversized performance board instead of longboard or allrounder?
« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2019, 10:59:08 AM »
The grom in the vid has some skills .
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Re: Oversized performance board instead of longboard or allrounder?
« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2019, 04:22:22 AM »

I’ve been thinking about getting a big board, primarily for relaxed cruising between breaks... but for surf. 

What are peoples’ thoughts about using an oversized performance surf shaped board instead of a longboard or large allrounder shape?

Granted if super-sized, a performance shape wouldn’t reach the performance it was designed for. BUT, if my goals do not include shredding or stylized longboarding, what harm in having decent rails and a shape that can turn?  (…and for the humility record I can’t shred or drop a knee turn.)

So specific example – The ‘appropriate’ Jimmy Lewis World Wide for my 185lb would be the 8’9 (141L).   But there is also a 9’9 x33” (171L).   Would that be a big board that is fun? … or just a big pain in the a** … ?
Find an old Laird (Pearson) 10'6" It's my all-time favorite board. Pearson got this right over 10 years ago and I haven't seen anything as good in this category (long surf board (not longboard)) that can cruise. 29" wide, 150ish L. Pin tail and razor thin rails it turns on a dime. We've all seen the vids...
Bunch of old shit

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Re: Oversized performance board instead of longboard or allrounder?
« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2019, 06:12:23 AM »
The Laird Surfer 10' X 31" @ 138 liters looks even better to me. Low liters. Nice outline and super stable for those big choppy days. I think this might be the board I've been looking for.

https://lairdstandup.com/products/surfer-1

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Re: Oversized performance board instead of longboard or allrounder?
« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2019, 06:17:10 AM »
The Laird Surfer 10' X 31 @ 138 liters looks even better to me.

https://lairdstandup.com/products/surfer-1
Omg, look at the carbon gun: 10'10'' long, 27.3'' wide, 4.0''   thick, 19.9   lbs, 125.6 Litres.

Holy moly. With the right waves and skill that would be AWESOME.

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Re: Oversized performance board instead of longboard or allrounder?
« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2019, 06:31:20 AM »
I know, the Gun looks rad.  Probably wouldn't work well for the waves I surf.
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Re: Oversized performance board instead of longboard or allrounder?
« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2019, 06:43:10 AM »
I know, the Gun looks rad.  Probably wouldn't work well for the waves I surf.
Yep, me too. But that’s the nature of guns: most of the time you don’t WANT one, but when you do, you really NEED one :)

I have a PSH 12ft Gun, which works in most conditions, including tiny stuff. There is a size and shape of wave however (1-2xOH and point break type with really steep drops) when I’d like a bit more rocker, and for those kind of waves the Laird Gun could be excellent.

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Re: Oversized performance board instead of longboard or allrounder?
« Reply #24 on: April 07, 2019, 07:08:17 AM »
Omg, look at the carbon gun: 10'10'' long, 27.3'' wide, 4.0''   thick, 19.9   lbs, 125.6 Litres.

Holy moly. With the right waves and skill that would be AWESOME.

I Would jump on that in heart beat. Unfortunately, it has an asymmetrical nose. Kind of limiting ;D
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Re: Oversized performance board instead of longboard or allrounder?
« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2019, 07:51:59 AM »
Lol. The nose doesn't look asymmetrical here.

https://lairdstandup.com/collections/boards/products/carbon-gun

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Re: Oversized performance board instead of longboard or allrounder?
« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2019, 08:02:46 AM »
Lol. The nose doesn't look asymmetrical here.

https://lairdstandup.com/collections/boards/products/carbon-gun

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Look again. where do you think I took this pic from ;)
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Re: Oversized performance board instead of longboard or allrounder?
« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2019, 08:54:16 AM »
Lol. The nose doesn't look asymmetrical here.

https://lairdstandup.com/collections/boards/products/carbon-gun

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Look again. where do you think I took this pic from ;)
If it was asymmetrical, wouldn’t this be clearly indicated in the marketing blurb?

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Re: Oversized performance board instead of longboard or allrounder?
« Reply #28 on: April 07, 2019, 08:58:52 AM »
If it was asymmetrical, wouldn’t this be clearly indicated in the marketing blurb?


Yes it would.

I think there is some kind of illusion going on or an anomaly with the pics.
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Re: Oversized performance board instead of longboard or allrounder?
« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2019, 01:09:36 PM »
If it was asymmetrical, wouldn’t this be clearly indicated in the marketing blurb?


Yes it would.

I think there is some kind of illusion going on or an anomaly with the pics.

You'd be surprised how many asymmetrical boards (and paddles) I've seen coming out of production from major brands.
This is not anomaly, just poor quality control which is also reflected on their website. I've personally dealt with two boards with
this kind of defect.

Point is, if you're board is constantly pulling to one side, don't assume it's your crappy technic, check fin box and rail line in the
nose area, you might be in for a surprise and not of the good kind.
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