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Naish 2020 Inflatable SUPs
« on: March 13, 2019, 06:45:27 AM »
Hinted at late last year by SUPboarder, the info is now public.

Getting a jump on the market for 2020 models, Naish are playing catch up in the world of inflatables. Higher pressures, fusion construction, quad stringers.

Good to see Damien at the helm with some good looking boards coming out soon. Stay tuned to https://greenwatersports.com/?ref=17 for availability.







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Re: Naish 2020 Inflatable SUPs
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2019, 07:30:06 AM »
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Re: Naish 2020 Inflatable SUPs
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2019, 05:28:54 PM »


He is talking big game but don't show the actual test against the other boards they tested or even the board alone.

Julian, you're in a position to corroborate his claim. Let's see this Naish vs Red vs Starboard. If it's true, I'll be tempted to buy.
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Re: Naish 2020 Inflatable SUPs
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2019, 09:41:42 AM »
I'm trying to get more info on price and availability. I'll keep you posted.

"Introducing the new 2020 inflatable SUP boards from Naish. This year, Naish has partnered with a new factory and new material suppliers in order to provide heightened quality and durability in our inflatable boards. The quality control has been set to the strictest in the industry.
Every piece of material, every ounce of glue and every board is meticulously checked to ensure that every Naish inflatable board embodies the quality you can expect from a brand that has been making boards for 40 years.
Naish didn't stop there though. Instead they kept pushing and developed the Standard Stiffness Rating to ensure that the boards are the stiffest on the market to ensure they continue to provide the best performing boards possible."
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Re: Naish 2020 Inflatable SUPs
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2019, 10:11:51 AM »
Sounds promising and looks good, Naish. But prove your claims, please.

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Re: Naish 2020 Inflatable SUPs
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2019, 10:31:17 AM »
2020!? LOL

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Re: Naish 2020 Inflatable SUPs
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2019, 01:19:54 PM »
embodies the quality you can expect from a brand that has been making boards for 40 years

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Re: Naish 2020 Inflatable SUPs
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2019, 06:00:50 PM »
One new feature that was overlooked in the Maliko is the PVC rails or as they call it: "Hydroslick Edges"
I guess the wanted to avoid the resemblance to ULI boards that introduced that years ago.

That's a really good feature to have for that design and could potentially give the board an advantage
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Re: Naish 2020 Inflatable SUPs
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2019, 06:30:43 PM »
Yes, it look like a direct rip-off of the ULI wiki rail. Even down to the colour. But itís a useful rip-off.

ULI sell the wiki rail as an aftermarket product you can fit to practically any inflatable SUP. It would be a good investment I think.

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Re: Naish 2020 Inflatable SUPs
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2019, 11:13:22 PM »
"Hydroslick Edges" doesn't exactly roll off your tongue like Wiki Rail either
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Re: Naish 2020 Inflatable SUPs
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2019, 12:41:38 AM »
Sounds promising and looks good, Naish. But prove your claims, please.

SUPboarder has one on test and is going to be independently testing its stiffness against some other boards in the next week or two.

(It nearly came to me to test it for them but I couldn't within the timescales involved (and my own policy is not to conduct short term review's). I'm wondering if I should cancel my inflatable Allstar order and get one of these instead).
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Re: Naish 2020 Inflatable SUPs
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2019, 12:49:47 AM »
RRD has it on their inflatable V3 and latest V4 boards:



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Re: Naish 2020 Inflatable SUPs
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2019, 05:32:18 AM »
Sounds promising and looks good, Naish. But prove your claims, please.

SUPboarder has one on test and is going to be independently testing its stiffness against some other boards in the next week or two.

(It nearly came to me to test it for them but I couldn't within the timescales involved (and my own policy is not to conduct short term review's). I'm wondering if I should cancel my inflatable Allstar order and get one of these instead).
This was a particularly interesting review because the camera angle is so good for seeing flex and pitching. A static bench style flex test like these guys do doesnít tell you that much because itís a dynamic load you are dealing with when paddling. With done inflatables you can get a kind of reverberation of the flex which times awkwardly with your paddle strike, and can actually affect your stroke (eg. how deep your blade is going). The degree of flex of the UL in particular is very obvious here, and the way in which it is not at all random. I was surprised, actually, that the Starboard stiffening arrangement (the cord that runs under the board) didnít appear to be working a little better. But then it is such a narrow cord, and it introduces tension into the board perhaps, like tightening a drum skin, that will have interesting effects in a dynamic situation, The question in my mind - and that these guys should try to assess IMO is which of the various approaches to iSUP stiffening works best. We also need to consider *where* stiffening is most required. One might imagine for instance maybe that stiffening the nose a great deal has a bigger payoff than stiffening the whole board a lesser amount.

Thereís a huge amount of R&D to be done in this regard. If the brands would all like me to send their best board to me FOC Iíd be happy to do it for them ;)

My guess is that a board with the Red Paddle on-deck stiffening rod up front, plus Red-style stiffening battens either side in the standing area, plus a fairly wide tail with an ULI-style wiki rail might be the stiffest. Mind you, I once strapped a 2x4 to the deck of my unlimited iSUP and it did seem to help. So thatís an easy and cheap (and presumably race-legal!) solution :)

I was also amazed at how much slower the 14ft airline was in this test considering it is lighter than the carbon board. They de-emphasise it in the video, but a 0.5mph difference is huge. Youíd be toast in a race.



Oh, and the carbon board flexes 5mm! Oh dear... over hundreds of thousands of paddle strokes just imagine what that is going to do to the board.

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Re: Naish 2020 Inflatable SUPs
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2019, 06:07:33 AM »
1) A static bench style flex test like these guys do doesnít tell you that much because itís a dynamic load you are dealing with when paddling. With done inflatables you can get a kind of reverberation of the flex which times awkwardly with your paddle strike, and can actually affect your stroke (eg. how deep your blade is going).

2) The question in my mind - and that these guys should try to assess IMO is which of the various approaches to iSUP stiffening works best.

3) We also need to consider *where* stiffening is most required. One might imagine for instance maybe that stiffening the nose a great deal has a bigger payoff than stiffening the whole board a lesser amount.

4) Thereís a huge amount of R&D to be done in this regard.

5) I was also amazed at how much slower the 14ft airline was in this test considering it is lighter than the carbon board. They de-emphasise it in the video, but a 0.5mph difference is huge. Youíd be toast in a race.

6) Oh, and the carbon board flexes 5mm! Oh dear... over hundreds of thousands of paddle strokes just imagine what that is going to do to the board.

1) You'd ideally need to see the hysteresis data for the board when being cyclically loaded. A static test does give you an initial impression though - i.e. if board X isn't as stiff as board Y, it's not likely to suddenly be a better board when dynamically loaded...... unless the internal construction is optimised for that effect (and that's likely well beyond the resources and understanding of current brands).

2) Too many confounding variables for that.

3) As above.

4) Agreed. I actually think that the creation of an inflatable board that is as competitive as a typical race hard board is a bigger holy grail than most other innovations at the moment.

5) Agreed.

6) Not as much as you think provided its within the parameters of the carbon layup. I see carbon bladed prosthetic legs last milions of cycles before the matrix begins to break down..... but it really comes down to the quality of the manufacture (and that I can't speak for)..

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Re: Naish 2020 Inflatable SUPs
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2019, 06:19:37 AM »
Too many confounding variables? Youíve got to be joking. I could discover this for them quite easily.