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Beasho

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Tuttle Plate Adapter Aluminum vs Carbon Weight
« on: March 04, 2019, 04:24:54 PM »
I am testing a new board with 'Plate Only' mounting.

Since I am using GoFoil and KeNalu Tuttle based foils I will need a Tuttle to Plate adapter.

Mac Kiteboarding has aluminum models that are fairly robust for $125.  But I have purchased these before and they are a bit heavy.

GoFoil has a carbon/titanium based model for $175 (+ $) shipping. 

Does anyone know how heavy / light the Carbon Tuttle adapter is vs. the Aluminum?

***Added:  Apparently the Carbon is 25.4 oz with Mounting Screws
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Re: Tuttle Plate Adapter Aluminum vs Carbon Weight
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2019, 04:27:15 PM »
The weight is nice on this board.   Hope she holds up: 13.8 lbs.

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Re: Tuttle Plate Adapter Aluminum vs Carbon Weight
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2019, 05:07:05 PM »
If you are trying to stay light above all else, why not just buy the plate mount for the Ke Nalu foil rather than the adapter? That has to be the lightest option.

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Re: Tuttle Plate Adapter Aluminum vs Carbon Weight
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2019, 07:15:02 AM »
That is one clean shape Beasho. 

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Re: Tuttle Plate Adapter Aluminum vs Carbon Weight
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2019, 12:49:10 PM »
That is one clean shape Beasho.

Jeff said "I have a board for you!"  Valentines Red.
 
Super-Custom.  It has dual tracks on the bottom.  No leash plugs, no handle, no decking.  :o

I guess I will keep it light.

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Re: Tuttle Plate Adapter Aluminum vs Carbon Weight
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2019, 02:03:26 PM »
Beasho

What are the dims of that board?

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Re: Tuttle Plate Adapter Aluminum vs Carbon Weight
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2019, 03:31:17 PM »
Alex loaned me his carbon plate adapter for a demo. It is the most impressive adapter I’ve seen. I’d get it.

I’ve seen the aluminum adapters open a gap in the middle when the wings are flexed hard to check stiffness of the whole rig.

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Re: Tuttle Plate Adapter Aluminum vs Carbon Weight
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2019, 06:27:48 AM »
I’ve seen the aluminum adapters open a gap in the middle when the wings are flexed hard to check stiffness of the whole rig.


Mine has some extra play due to this.  The carbon is worth it for this reason alone.

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Re: Tuttle Plate Adapter Aluminum vs Carbon Weight
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2019, 09:26:10 AM »
What are the dims of that board?

The board is 6' 2" X  ?  X  ? X Volume = ?

Jeff Clark tends to be an 'ArTeest.'  I have been foiling with him a bunch so I am assuming he made this 'Just for me.'

Clay reports he got a board from the same batch and loves it. 

CARBON ADAPTER - I spoke with TJ at BigWinds in the Gorge yesterday.  He confirmed that the carbon adapter is NOT that much lighter than the aluminum BUT it doesn't flex, nor bend like the aluminum will.  He suggested that the aluminum has been bent when hammering off the foil base. 

$175 shipped vs. $125 for the Aluminum and I went with the CARBON.  Sounds like a similar set of feedback above. 

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Re: Tuttle Plate Adapter Aluminum vs Carbon Weight
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2019, 09:56:09 PM »
I don't know the weight of the GoFoil carbon adapter, but here is some info about a carbon one I made, the Groove carbon adapter, and the Aluminum one: 

My custom carbon adapter was 610g
Aluminum was 691g
Groove carbon was 518g

https://www.standupzone.com/forum/index.php/topic,33335.msg377279.html#msg377279

My advice, forget about 100-200g difference, you'll never notice it.  That said, it's a lot easier to get a foil into/out-of the carbon adapters than the aluminum one with it's CNC micro steps inside, not sure that's worth +$100-200

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Re: Tuttle Plate Adapter Aluminum vs Carbon Weight
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2019, 06:34:01 AM »
Just got the Gofoil Plate adapter delivered, expensive in Europe , €244 including shipping.

Weight is 590gr without any screws.

They have forgotten to countersink the holes :'(

https://photos.app.goo.gl/WzoPinv54vR5iEWS7

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Re: Tuttle Plate Adapter Aluminum vs Carbon Weight
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2019, 02:39:18 PM »
soepkip,

For Gofoil adapters that are not countersunk for the screws are supposed to have XL wake board washers with it.
 
Similar to this:  https://www.warehouse-one.de/en/slingshot/large-wakeboard-binding-locking-washer-2-pack.html

Contact your seller and tell him you did not receive them and you are supposed to.


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Re: Tuttle Plate Adapter Aluminum vs Carbon Weight
« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2019, 07:44:03 PM »
As ovious say, you don't want the plate countersunk, That would weaken the plate a lot and create a place for failures to start.
Foote 10'4X34", SIC 17.5 V1 hollow and an EPS one in Hood River. Foote 9'0" x 31", L41 8'8", 18' Speedboard, etc. etc.

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Re: Tuttle Plate Adapter Aluminum vs Carbon Weight
« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2019, 01:00:56 AM »
My bad , I suppose I should use the supplied (aluminum?)rings:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/aw3efdyifr6w43r/GofoilRingsjpg.jpg?dl=0

These rings do not show on the Gofoil website:
https://gofoil.com/adapter/
Gofoil: All carbon with titanium reinforcement.
Who knows where the titanium is?


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Re: Tuttle Plate Adapter Aluminum vs Carbon Weight
« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2019, 01:19:19 AM »
Soepkip,

That is the correct use of the washers.  Your all set on that part.

The Ti plate is molded inside the lamination to reinforce the countersink for the screw that holds the tuttle base and adapter together.
Its painted over but if you slightly scratch that area lightly (the countersink only) you will see the Ti. 
Its a 4mm thick TI plate, approx 20mm wide by 30mm long that is completly enclosed inside the lamination, the countersink is the only place you can see it.

That adapter is solid prepreg, no foam or filler.  Probably overbuilt by 5X.


 


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