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This is a uniquely informed and diverse group to survey on any question, most definitely this one.  At this point, for whom would you cast your ballot?

Trump
19 (46.3%)
Biden
9 (22%)
Sanders
8 (19.5%)
Booker
4 (9.8%)
Klobuchar
1 (2.4%)

Total Members Voted: 41

Voting closed: March 21, 2019, 04:39:47 PM

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RideTheGlide

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Re: 2020 Vision
« Reply #315 on: March 11, 2019, 02:08:09 PM »
I think it was Marx that said “under capitalism man exploits man. Under communism it’s just the opposite” but it probably wasn’t Karl

I think that came from a movie.

A similar one is "a system where most is given to to those who do the least", which can be used to describe either one.
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Re: 2020 Vision
« Reply #316 on: March 11, 2019, 03:10:27 PM »
https://youtu.be/WX_96uKZ7yQ

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Pete made me want to play the guitar...and reminded me why I should never dance.

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« Reply #317 on: March 11, 2019, 05:41:45 PM »
i call it a bargain, the best i ever had
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Re: 2020 Vision
« Reply #318 on: March 11, 2019, 06:27:27 PM »
Dizzy in the head and I'm feeling blue
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« Reply #319 on: March 12, 2019, 11:02:23 AM »
Interesting tidbit, Townshend would not allow Michael Moore to use Won't Get Fooled Again in Fahrenheit 9/11, he considered Moore a bully.




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« Reply #320 on: March 12, 2019, 06:41:36 PM »
ya---prolly best not to delve into pete towshend's tidbits

much as i love the who--and hope it aint true
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« Reply #321 on: March 12, 2019, 08:15:08 PM »
We'll be fighting in the streets
With our children at our feet
And the morals that they worship will be gone
And the men who spurred us on
Sit in judgement of all wrong
They decide and the shotgun sings the song

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again

The change, it had to come
We knew it all along
We were liberated from the fold, that's all
And the world looks just the same
And history ain't changed
'Cause the banners, they are flown in the next war

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
No, no!

I'll move myself and my family aside
If we happen to be left half alive
I'll get all my papers and smile at the sky
Though I know that the hypnotized never lie
Do ya?

There's nothing in the streets
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
And the parting on the left
Are now parting on the right
And the beards have all grown longer overnight

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
Don't get fooled again
No, no!

Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss

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Capitalism at it's finest. The Who made millions singing what the streets want to hear. I think Pete was the Pied Piper. Bell Boy.... keep my lip buttoned down! Keith Moon was just off the hook the whole time he was alive.
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« Reply #322 on: March 12, 2019, 09:04:24 PM »
Loved The Who, but felt a little taken advantage of after attending their “farewell tour” at the Kingdome in 82.

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« Reply #323 on: March 13, 2019, 03:27:50 AM »
what's your point, TD?
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Re: 2020 Vision
« Reply #324 on: March 13, 2019, 04:20:06 AM »
Capitalism at it's finest. The Who made millions singing what the streets want to hear. I think Pete was the Pied Piper. Bell Boy.... keep my lip buttoned down! Keith Moon was just off the hook the whole time he was alive.

Yes, but it was genuine.  They were selling music, a product, and a feeling that went along with it.  Buyers got to sample the goods before they bought and they (we) got our money's worth.  I see a  prob right now which is a societal reality suck.  We wanted to be Townsend or Entwistle, but we wanted the skills.  If we wanted to be recognized, it was for doing something extremely well.  Now we have a fame first, money first mentality that circumvents the steps of being great at something.  It is there in the "Shark Tank" BS as well.  Pump and dump businesses.  It works if money is the only end game, but where the goal is the quick sale the mentality changes.  A lot of shitty steps can be taken to boost sales and reduce costs that a business owner would never consider if they were planning to to run a company for life.  A lot is lost in that transition.

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« Reply #325 on: March 13, 2019, 04:37:30 AM »
Loved The Who, but felt a little taken advantage of after attending their “farewell tour” at the Kingdome in 82.
Ha. Seems I remember that as well. Saw them with The Clash on that tour in Oakland. It was quite the crowd and concert and had no idea who The Clash was then. I can still picture the crowd and the mosh pit of thousands happening on the field as I watched from the upper deck thinking how bizarre it looked. Elbows and bodies flying every which way.

what's your point, TD?
Maybe this?

Hadn't heard "Ox" in ages. Roger needs some love. Is that Bellboy? (don't think I have heard that reference to any of them before.) That dude can belt out a song like no one else. Not sure about a range of notes or anything but just pure........power.
Yeah, they were one of the best and their music holds up so well.

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« Reply #326 on: March 13, 2019, 05:07:12 AM »
but what's this got to do with capitalism??
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« Reply #327 on: March 13, 2019, 05:09:03 AM »
That’s right, the Clash!  They were great, but unfortunately had a short trajectory.  I will still spin a Who album on occasion.

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« Reply #328 on: March 13, 2019, 05:30:37 AM »
yeah the who were awesome, and had a great powered up unique style---but what's this got to do with capitalism?   cant get my arms around that....


saw the clash 2 years prior at red rocks colorado--i think i saw the who that year at folsom stadium-i--bet youve been to red rocks luca--saw so many good shows there--talking heads that year (tina weymouth on bass, pregnant! bet that baby can dance!)-tom tom club the next---santana too--denver comes out big for carlos--incredible energy at red rocks when he played there

woops, carlos santana is a first generation mexican immigrant--came to the us as a young boy, naturalized at 18--an american rock icon!

and of course the dead--thus "dead rocks"
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« Reply #329 on: March 13, 2019, 05:31:35 AM »
c'mon bean "brand new cadillac" spin dat!
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