2020 Vision

[Califoilia]

The Democrats have demonstrated previously that they can indeed lose an unlosable election.

Yeah, and made even funnier in that it was an "unlosable" loss to a guy who had previously managed to bankrupt "unlosable" casinos...and here "we" (figuratively not literally, I've despised the MFer long before he ever considered running) go, and give the a-hole the keys to what he thinks is his new castle. Infukingcredible...smh. 

[pdxmike]

The most disturbing thing I see in this entire discussion thread is the poll at the top of the page where it shows there are still people who support Trump. I understand it is a very small sample size, but if this is any kind of reflection of the population at large then I’m just at a loss to understand. After everything Trump has done, it just astounds me that he would have any support at all.

His apparent lack of political-polish has rendered him possibly the most transparent US president ever; for many that translates into trust.

“The receptivity of the great masses is very limited, their intelligence is small, but their power of forgetting is enormous."

Recognise the quote? Is it Trump, perhaps?

I've seen that quote before.  Can't remember who said it though.

[Bean]

Yes A 10, your quote from mein kampf could be, but is certainly not limited to DT.

https://youtu.be/YKc2xk9MYoY?t=1156

[Califoilia]

There are a ton of skilled labor jobs that pay very well, but young Americans  want a degree and an office job. They all deserve it I'm sure. We need more Plumbers, Carpenters, Welder's, Electronics Tech's, Machinist, etc.  but our youth is apparently better than that.

I agree with you on the premise, but not on the causation. I don't believe it's "our youth" that necessarily think they're "apparently better than that"...it's us, through our school systems who have tried to instill that belief in them with the "everyone needs to go to college" BS.

Not sure about all schools, but the HS I attended that my boys also graduated from umpteen years later...had vocational courses for the non-academia students to find non-higher education options upon graduation in the form of all of the "shop" classes (wood, print, auto, metal, electrical) while I was there...that were all long gone by the time my boys stepped on campus there.

Saw it firsthand in the fire service, where we were getting fire candidates who didn't know their way around a shovel, a mop bucket, and forget about asking them to "go get me a 3/4" box end wrench"...more than once I had the whole tool box wheeled over and we began our fun tool search, question and answer game..."Is this it?", "No", "How about this?", "Nope", "This one?", "Uh-uh", "Got it...this one?", "Ah JC get out of the way....THIS!!", "Oooh OK, but that looks more like a circle than a box".

 

[TallDude]

I........ ain't go no bo.......dy.  Nobody   I'm actually a sectarian. The Surf Cult.

[Weasels wake]

The most disturbing thing I see in this entire discussion thread is the poll at the top of the page where it shows there are still people who support Trump. I understand it is a very small sample size, but if this is any kind of reflection of the population at large then I’m just at a loss to understand. After everything Trump has done, it just astounds me that he would have any support at all.

His apparent lack of political-polish has rendered him possibly the most transparent US president ever; for many that translates into trust.

If you had said, "After everything that Trump has said or tweeted, I could see where you may have a point, but "done"?   What governmental thing has he done that negatively effected you in a personal way?
This is I'm pretty sure why you are surprised by Trump's support, it's that his supporters can separate what he says or tweets, from the things he accomplishes.  I don't think anybody, if they support him or not, are happy with most of his tweets or his thin skin, that he demonstrates with some of the things he says.  He doesn't have to express his feeling about everything, most things he should just let slide, but then again he's not a politician. 
So maybe that's the root of the dislike, he's not a politician, and he's definitely not politically correct.

[TallDude]

The most disturbing thing I see in this entire discussion thread is the poll at the top of the page where it shows there are still people who support Trump. I understand it is a very small sample size, but if this is any kind of reflection of the population at large then I’m just at a loss to understand. After everything Trump has done, it just astounds me that he would have any support at all.

His apparent lack of political-polish has rendered him possibly the most transparent US president ever; for many that translates into trust.

If you had said, "After everything that Trump has said or tweeted, I could see where you may have a point, but "done"?   What governmental thing has he done that negatively effected you in a personal way?
This is I'm pretty sure why you are surprised by Trump's support, it's that his supporters can separate what he says or tweets, from the things he accomplishes.  I don't think anybody, if they support him or not, are happy with most of his tweets or his thin skin, that he demonstrates with some of the things he says.  He doesn't have to express his feeling about everything, most things he should just let slide, but then again he's not a politician. 
So maybe that's the root of the dislike, he's not a politician, and he's definitely not politically correct.

Who is politically correct these days? The moderates are sitting at net line watching the right getting ready to serve, while the left is smashing their racket on the court in protest.

[Bean]

A tennis metaphor, really? 

[Area 10]

The most disturbing thing I see in this entire discussion thread is the poll at the top of the page where it shows there are still people who support Trump. I understand it is a very small sample size, but if this is any kind of reflection of the population at large then I’m just at a loss to understand. After everything Trump has done, it just astounds me that he would have any support at all.

His apparent lack of political-polish has rendered him possibly the most transparent US president ever; for many that translates into trust.

If you had said, "After everything that Trump has said or tweeted, I could see where you may have a point, but "done"?   What governmental thing has he done that negatively effected you in a personal way?
This is I'm pretty sure why you are surprised by Trump's support, it's that his supporters can separate what he says or tweets, from the things he accomplishes.  I don't think anybody, if they support him or not, are happy with most of his tweets or his thin skin, that he demonstrates with some of the things he says.  He doesn't have to express his feeling about everything, most things he should just let slide, but then again he's not a politician. 
So maybe that's the root of the dislike, he's not a politician, and he's definitely not politically correct.

The root of the dislike, certainly outside the US even if not inside, is quite simple to understand if you have some semblance of a moral code. It’s the character of the man. He’s a philandering, misogynist, narcissistic, lying, bullying, KKK-style braggart who emanates a strong sense of general perviness, and has all the hallmarks of a full-blown demagogue-in-training. The fact that he’s also a terrible orator, has a slim grasp of many things he claims to know about, has a truly ridiculous vain hairstyle and perma-tan panda eyes, denies climate-change and apparently loves dictators the world over just reinforces the ridiculousness of him being your principal US representative on the world stage.

But of course, the more that a person has those characteristics themselves, the more they are likely to approve of him. A person’s support for Trump is no more than a test of their gullibility and decency.

[RideTheGlide]

The root of the dislike, certainly outside the US even if not inside, is quite simple to understand if you have some semblance of a moral code. It’s the character of the man. He’s a philandering, misogynist, narcissistic, lying, bullying, KKK-style braggart who emanates a strong sense of general perviness, and has all the hallmarks of a full-blown demagogue-in-training. The fact that he’s also a terrible orator, has a slim grasp of many things he claims to know about, has a truly ridiculous vain hairstyle and perma-tan panda eyes, denies climate-change and apparently loves dictators the world over just reinforces the ridiculousness of him being your principal US representative on the world stage.

But of course, the more that a person has those characteristics themselves, the more they are likely to approve of him. A person’s support for Trump is no more than a test of their gullibility and decency.

I have finally gotten to the point where I can't make excuses for people who still support him. For a while I rationalized how they could still be good decent people that were just misguided. By now, they know what kind of moral trade off they are making.

[Rider]

Earth to A10 & RTG. Nobody gives a fuck what you think. That is all.....

[pdxmike]

Earth to A10 & RTG. Nobody gives a fuck what you think. That is all.....

I do.

[TallDude]

A tennis metaphor, really? 

I could have used volleyball as the metaphor, but not to many people would dig it 

[Rider]

Hey Tall Dude. You’re a tennis player? Cool... Me too.. still playing at the 4.0 level for my age. 70’s..... Do you think it teaches you a bit about life in general? You meet all kinds on the court and different personalities become quickly apparent. Some good some bad. Take a guy like pdx.  He would be so fun to meet on the court.....

[pdxmike]

This is I'm pretty sure why you are surprised by Trump's support, it's that his supporters can separate what he says or tweets, from the things he accomplishes.  I don't think anybody, if they support him or not, are happy with most of his tweets or his thin skin, that he demonstrates with some of the things he says.

I think that's true of SOME supporters.  But many of his supporters support him not despite those tweets and statements, but BECAUSE of them.