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Re: Does the Surfrider Foundation have anything to do with surf riding?
« Reply #30 on: February 16, 2019, 11:10:59 PM »
Thank you Salish Salt. I appreciate the facts based on years of research. I understand a little more about coastal armoring now.   

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Re: Does the Surfrider Foundation have anything to do with surf riding?
« Reply #31 on: February 17, 2019, 07:34:28 AM »
I really get annoyed at the backward regulations here in NC with regard to limiting farm/industrial waste in rivers (and therefore eventually the sounds/sea) and allowing commercial over fishing in the estuaries. But for about the last 50 years or so they have taken the right approach at the beaches. They passed the Coastal Area Management Act (CAMA) with a lot of special regulations about building in Areas of Environmental Concern (AECs). A beach house on a piered foundation has to be at least 60' behind the vegetation line on the forward dune and a building with a foundation can't be within 120' of it. Except for a very few exceptions made over the years (mostly trying to protect historical landmarks), that's just understood from the start. The beach is going to move and someday the structure will be gone (either a storm will remove it or you may be forced to). You even have to sign something indicating you understand the "limited suitability for permanent structures" to get a permit to build:

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Re: Does the Surfrider Foundation have anything to do with surf riding?
« Reply #32 on: February 17, 2019, 09:47:14 AM »
Kudos to all on this thread. Maybe one of the best behaved environmental threads Iíve seen and one with folks of all political flavors.

TD Iím sure it can seem arbitrary and. I know you are a long time coastal dweller so youíve seen 50 years of changing policy.

Remember, thereís almost no way they could build that harbor today. We are way past those days of ďwe need this so weíre doing itĒ in most cases. But Iím sure there are still issues being sorted from old legacy stuff.

Itís also important to recognize that just because something like a volunteer cleanup isnít 100% effective at saving the world doesnít mean that itís not an excellent marketing opportunity that gets people to seek more a part of the org.

My buddy has an African water charity and they allow large donors to come see them work. It doesnít help save anyone and even reduces the efficiency of their org while people are there. However that few days of inefficiency can cement a donorís commitment for years and provide funding that saves tens of thousands of lives.

Are those people saving lives while there? No. But the result is bigger than any 4 day trip ever.

Looks like surfrider is ethical

https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=6472

But does it serve surfers? I donít know but nothing is perfect.

Great thread. Great info.

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Re: Does the Surfrider Foundation have anything to do with surf riding?
« Reply #33 on: February 17, 2019, 10:13:43 AM »
i really believe that the vast majority of americans, regardless of political flavoring, care deeply about environmental issues, and support sensible environmental policy, as well as government-managed, protected national environmental treasures---like our national parks system etc

big business spins hard as ever, and confuses much, with intent--and pays politicians, lobbyists and Washington power-brokers to implement environment-harming business-benefiting policy--where we all pay those significant external costs to those businesses--

but where americans have good info, they care a lot about taking care with our environment

what political flavor would tolerate a nasty oil spill? who would resist sensible laws to prevent? who has no issue with acid rains killing off precious remote fresh water lakes rivers, etc?

money, tentacled throughout our political system these days, complicates all of this.......seems the basic shit the all americans believe, just doesnt figure in much anymore

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Re: Does the Surfrider Foundation have anything to do with surf riding?
« Reply #34 on: February 17, 2019, 03:21:59 PM »
i really believe that the vast majority of americans, regardless of political flavoring, care deeply about environmental issues, and support sensible environmental policy, as well as government-managed, protected national environmental treasures---like our national parks system etc

big business spins hard as ever, and confuses much, with intent--and pays politicians, lobbyists and Washington power-brokers to implement environment-harming business-benefiting policy--where we all pay those significant external costs to those businesses--

but where americans have good info, they care a lot about taking care with our environment

what political flavor would tolerate a nasty oil spill? who would resist sensible laws to prevent? who has no issue with acid rains killing off precious remote fresh water lakes rivers, etc?

money, tentacled throughout our political system these days, complicates all of this.......seems the basic shit the all americans believe, just doesnt figure in much anymore

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Re: Does the Surfrider Foundation have anything to do with surf riding?
« Reply #35 on: February 17, 2019, 04:53:31 PM »
It's interesting that coastal armoring came up because that's something I'm investigating too on the Hudson. The banks lower Hudson especially are armored with rocks, destroying the sloping shelfs that used to be there. The issue here isn't so much beach erosion but degradation of the river ecosystem because the natural interaction between the land and water is gone. A big part of the problem is that there's a train line on both banks running north and south (New York Central, anyone?), so that can't exactly be torn away.

There's actually a fair amount of money locally to be found by the state for riverfront restoration. There's a ecological education center in Yonkers where they build a marsh right inside the industrial complex. It's pretty cool, with reeds and everything. That's probably far away, but I'd like to be a part of revitalizing my own waterfront. I think of it as a place where people can get into the water and enjoy nature up close.

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Re: Does the Surfrider Foundation have anything to do with surf riding?
« Reply #36 on: April 08, 2019, 07:01:36 PM »
I don't know about Europe but here in California, seawalls have been an absolute disaster for the coastline.  Someone asked if home owners should just be SOL?  The home owners should have though about that before buying/building on the edge of a bluff top or right on the beach itself.  It's not rocket science as to what the long term damage sea walls cause.       

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Re: Does the Surfrider Foundation have anything to do with surf riding?
« Reply #37 on: May 13, 2019, 10:21:51 AM »
 
Below is the text from an Email Surfrider just sent out.  They seem to do more big picture PR and lobbying than actual beach stuff. I support them as well as the local club.



Hands Across the Sand 🏝️---------- Original Message ----------
Join us for the 10th Annual 🤝 Hands Across the Sand Event

Help us to once again raise our Hands and Voices to send a strong message - letting our leaders (and the world) know that South Carolina says NO to offshore drilling, NO to seismic blasting, and YES to clean energy.

We will join hands in a line as long as possible, forming both a physical and metaphorical line in the sand, standing up for our coast. There will be a second lineup in the water for surfers 🏄‍♀️- so make sure to grab your board!

Details:
10am 🏖️ Surfrider Foundation Charleston will lead a beach sweep with all supplies provided.
11:30am🎙️ Elected officials and other community leaders will speak out against offshore drilling in a press conference.
12pm 🤝 Form a line in the sand / water and pose for a picture!

The event will be on the beach, just to the west of the pier (near Tides Hotel).
COME EARLY BECAUSE PARKING AND WALKING TO THE BEACH CAN TAKE A WHILE!

BRING SIGNS AND INVITE FRIENDS!

Hands Across the Sand events will be taking place all across the world! 🌎 More information here: https://handsacrossthesand.org/events-coming/
 



 
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