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Does the Surfrider Foundation have anything to do with surf riding?
TallDude:
https://southoc.surfrider.org/2017/08/18/seawalls-kill-beaches/
I noticed all through Europe they have built large concrete seawalls that protect the citizens, community, and property from rising tides while maintaining access to beaches and surf spots. In my opinion they are beautiful places partly because of the walls. Without them properties are lost, access is reduced, and some surf communities will be only in the history books.
There is big money in environmental lawsuits, but unfortunately no money in protecting surfing.
surfcowboy:
Don’t most sources say that over the long term they mess up more than they save? Check Florida’s results, seems to be no love for them there, along with pumping sand too.
But I’d love to read some more info on this. I’ve only read stuff against them.
Area 10:
There’s going to have to be a much wider consideration of the degree to which we are going to try to fight nature’s response to our folly.
https://nca2018.globalchange.gov/chapter/8/
But that would require a very wide and open debate about some issues that certain folk do not want to discuss. It’s a tough time to own a beachfront property, or live in a low-lying coastal community. Start buying your retirement property on a hill somewhere :)
For the record, scientists in universities and government-funded institutions, who overwhelmingly receive no financial or other incentives for pursuing a particular line on a topic like climate change, are probably the most honest and straightforward group of people you will encounter in a society. For the vast majority, if they are telling you X it is because they truly believe X, and they are in a better position to know about it than you are. In fact it is much more likely that the lone scientist who is legitimising an opinion counter to the prevailing opinion, is the one on the take.
I’m fed up with this bashing of scientists by politicians. We are generally too polite and dispassionate to respond to such nonsense. But let me tell you that if you had a contest between politicians and scientists to see who is the most honest, it would be like a mouse getting into a boxing ring with a herd of rampaging wildebeest.
eastbound:
gotta be careful with this one.
not so sure we shd continue with taxpayers subsidizing the fortification and insurance of wealthy peoples' expensive waterfront real estate.
now that it's becoming quite clear the vast majority of scientist have been honest, and correct about what has been continually happening to our planet---and that the dishonesty has come from politicians and the fossil fuel industry---now that the horse is out of the barn and it's clear weve got a effing serious problem.
and we still have to hear our elected village idiot talking about how cold and snowy it is
surfrider is legit, and well-run--out team!!: https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=6472
RideTheGlide:
Seawalls aren't allowed here in NC. A lot or property owners want them, but it sounds like a very bad idea. Here is a really odd twist - seawalls could actually cause a barrier island to sink.
http://endeavors.unc.edu/the_future_of_the_outer_banks
Barrier islands are kind of a big deal here as we have little to no mainland beach. Most beaches have a sound behind them, some have salt marsh. I am not sure you can get to an open ocean beach in NC staying on natural solid ground if you don't count obscure zig zag paths through marsh.
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