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Re: Longboard Style SUP: Yes, but wich one?
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2019, 02:25:50 PM »
Hey Supnorte, thanks again for your explanations and welcoming words! We enjoyed the endless portuguese  summer last christmas in Arrifana and will definately come back. The waves in your vidz look like the perfect easy glass to me - in a mirror. :) Do you also have a right like that around the corner?

Cheers

Arrifana is a very cool spot. The only thing that I don't like is that when the tide is higher the beach disappears and my family starts giving me sting eyes  ;D

On Saturday the waves were great again (even better than during the week) and everybody was surfing the right instead of the left break (wichi in my opinion was much better). I was sidelined because I had a cold and want to return in full force during the week.

Here is was the left was looking like

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Re: Longboard Style SUP: Yes, but wich one?
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2019, 02:34:24 PM »
Lots of people seem to like the Stylemaster and the new 10 ft version is only 9 kg and costs a fair whack less than other carbon designs. Iíve never used one but not heard many or anything negative about them except some find the slightly domed deck weird at first.

The JL Black and Blue is an out and out noserider.....small wave peeling machine.... built for that only
Yeah, Iíve got a 10ft Fanatic Stylemaster. Itís a great board. It picks up waves more like an 11í than a 10í, is plenty stable even in chop, and the thin rails make it very easy to turn. It encourages you to get on the nose. Performance-wise itís a definite step up from something like the Naish Nalu 10-6. Itís more a dedicated surfer than an all-rounder like the Nalu, and less ideal for a beginner, but quite a lot better for ambitious SUP surfers, or very light riders (and is easy to carry, so itís quite popular with women).
What do you consider a "very light rider"?
I think it would be fine as an all-rounder (ie for cruising as well as surfing) for people 145lbs and under.


Area10.... have you used it in decent swell as well as small longboard waves?

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Re: Longboard Style SUP: Yes, but wich one?
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2019, 02:36:19 PM »
Lots of people seem to like the Stylemaster and the new 10 ft version is only 9 kg and costs a fair whack less than other carbon designs. Iíve never used one but not heard many or anything negative about them except some find the slightly domed deck weird at first.

The JL Black and Blue is an out and out noserider.....small wave peeling machine.... built for that only
Yeah, Iíve got a 10ft Fanatic Stylemaster. Itís a great board. It picks up waves more like an 11í than a 10í, is plenty stable even in chop, and the thin rails make it very easy to turn. It encourages you to get on the nose. Performance-wise itís a definite step up from something like the Naish Nalu 10-6. Itís more a dedicated surfer than an all-rounder like the Nalu, and less ideal for a beginner, but quite a lot better for ambitious SUP surfers, or very light riders (and is easy to carry, so itís quite popular with women).

Itís probably going to be my next purchase.....seems good value for money seeing as all the similar longboard SUPs are now around £1600 for a board around 9 kg or so. Have you used it in bigger punchier swell...enough rocker on it to cope with a few later drops?

Iím 90 kg plus wettie....think you are lighter?
Yeah it copes well with big drops - the rails are so thin that itís quite easy to angle and stay in control. Yeah, Iím lighter than you are. At 135L, if you are 90kg youíll need either fairly clean conditions or reasonable balance to be comfortable for long sessions on it in typical UK windy crap. But the performance in decent swell is really excellent considering itís 30Ē wide, and it is probably more stable than other performance longboards out there that have more pinched or narrow designs.

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Re: Longboard Style SUP: Yes, but wich one?
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2019, 03:35:28 PM »
@Supnorte: Nice waves man. Lucky you!  8)

Stylemaster seems to be a good option, thanks for bringing it up. I can get a good deal on it, prisewise by far the most attractive. But i also like the idea of a custom 10' sunova surf, thinned out to 130l and pimped with orange tint. Probably influenced by all the nice custom sunovas i've lately seen online...

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Re: Longboard Style SUP: Yes, but wich one?
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2019, 03:41:02 PM »
Lots of people seem to like the Stylemaster and the new 10 ft version is only 9 kg and costs a fair whack less than other carbon designs. Iíve never used one but not heard many or anything negative about them except some find the slightly domed deck weird at first.

The JL Black and Blue is an out and out noserider.....small wave peeling machine.... built for that only
Yeah, Iíve got a 10ft Fanatic Stylemaster. Itís a great board. It picks up waves more like an 11í than a 10í, is plenty stable even in chop, and the thin rails make it very easy to turn. It encourages you to get on the nose. Performance-wise itís a definite step up from something like the Naish Nalu 10-6. Itís more a dedicated surfer than an all-rounder like the Nalu, and less ideal for a beginner, but quite a lot better for ambitious SUP surfers, or very light riders (and is easy to carry, so itís quite popular with women).
What do you consider a "very light rider"?
I think it would be fine as an all-rounder (ie for cruising as well as surfing) for people 145lbs and under.
So naked, dehydrated and starved for a couple of days it might work for me.  :o

Trying to get a feel for length, width and liters that would cruise okay but still perform pretty well. Fed, dressed and properly hydrated I am low 150s possibly drifting to high 150s and then back down.
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Re: Longboard Style SUP: Yes, but wich one?
« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2019, 04:27:56 PM »
Well, Iíve covered between 5 and 10 miles on the Stylemaster during many surf sessions, and Iíve also cruised around on flat water on it perfectly comfortably for a few miles. And Iím heavier than you. So it can be done, for sure. But I also have a 10-6 Nalu and a 11í0x30Ē Gong NFA longboard, and if I was going out specifically to cover some distance then Iíd rather be on either of those than the Stylemaster.

I have a friend who is about 150lbs I think, and he preferred the Stylemaster to the 10-6 Nalu, and said he found it actually more stable in chop. This is probably because the lower volume and narrower rails mean you stand closer to the water. I donít find the Stylemaster more stable than the Nalu - but Iím about 20lbs heavier than him. So I think that rider weight is probably quite important for the paddling experience on these thin-railed fairly low volume performance longboards.

My Stylemaster is the expensive 2017-2018 LTD construction, so itís lovely and light. If you are used to lugging a heavy distance board around, it is really nice to pick one of these up, if youíve got a long walk to the water. If you are exploring an area and might be getting in and out of the water and with periods of portage, this can be a be a big advantage of using a board like this for recreational distance paddling. I wouldnít want to paddle much more than about 10 miles a day on one though, or carry anything much on it.

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Re: Longboard Style SUP: Yes, but wich one?
« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2019, 08:01:59 PM »
the Stylemaster's a nice and solid long board and surprisingly performs on reef breaks.

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Re: Longboard Style SUP: Yes, but wich one?
« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2019, 09:02:00 PM »
Thanks Area 10 and JEG...useful feedback.

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Re: Longboard Style SUP: Yes, but wich one?
« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2019, 10:06:44 PM »
Iím exactly your height and weight (6í3x 190) and I find my 11íx 31Ē Naish Nalu purrr-fect..  8)

« Last Edit: January 13, 2019, 10:08:35 PM by DavidJohn »

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Re: Longboard Style SUP: Yes, but wich one?
« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2019, 09:48:35 AM »
That Nalu seems to have some serious glide. Thanks for your input! An a nice vid from partywaveparadise!  8)

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Re: Longboard Style SUP: Yes, but wich one?
« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2019, 10:14:10 AM »
Iím 195 and this vid is from a 2í gutless day. 00:52 and 2:40 show some nose time.

The board is a custom Surf. 
A very thinned out 10-6 x 31 145l all terrain and fail proof.

« Last Edit: January 14, 2019, 10:20:48 AM by surfinJ »

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Re: Longboard Style SUP: Yes, but wich one?
« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2019, 11:34:28 AM »
Hey @surfinJ, thanks for joining in! Nice vid and surfing! I know that stretch of coastline a bit, a lot of good memories (from getting smashed by overhead bombs ;)).
As mentioned, a custom surf is quite on top of the wish list. Would you mind some extra questions? Why did you option for the larger and longer 10'6 instead of the 10'? Would you stick with the dimensions or rather go down in size/volume?

A lot of good info and suggestions from everyone. Thanks again!

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Re: Longboard Style SUP: Yes, but wich one?
« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2019, 12:34:04 PM »
Sure, I wouldnít go down in size.  I like the length and long feel of 10-6 and even have an old 11í PSH that I love.  Iíve tried 10í sups and they miss the longboard feel for me.
Having a quiver has let me go to my low volume limit with a shortboard shape and then a longboard with a large surplus of floatation, a clear difference.

A low volume long longboard would go good in tubes or big waves but thatís it. A short 9-10í longboard shape might work for a small guy but at my size, and youíre taller, just seems to miss that ďlongĒ feel.

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Re: Longboard Style SUP: Yes, but wich one?
« Reply #28 on: January 14, 2019, 03:21:00 PM »
Yeah, I like longer boards too.

Talking of which - hey, DJ: is this the 11í0 Nalu Robbie uses here?



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Re: Longboard Style SUP: Yes, but wich one?
« Reply #29 on: January 14, 2019, 03:44:57 PM »
Yeah, I like longer boards too.

Talking of which - hey, DJ: is this the 11í0 Nalu Robbie uses here?



DJ said in the Breeze that it was the 11'4 "Also pretty sure it's a 2015 11'4'' Nalu"

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