Author Topic: Does foil surfing ruin your balance  (Read 804 times)

Evan Lloyd

  • Sunset Status
  • ****
  • Posts: 377
    • View Profile
Does foil surfing ruin your balance
« on: December 18, 2018, 02:30:26 PM »
A hefty swell has passed through CA the past few days.  I was in Del Mar and found myself paddling out over 8-10' faces.  I was on my 9-6 x 30. This board has been my go-to for big-ish waves for years.  The thing is, I have not surfed a SUP since April, as I have been fully committed to learning how to foil.  I found that my balance was all messed up.  I could hardly stand on a board that historically was one of my most stable.  I got a little more comfortable as the session progressed but I felt like a kook. I was falling off the board frequently while simply paddling around.  I thought I had pretty awesome balance in the past.  I generally Surf a 7-4 and 8-6 SUP, so going up to 9-6 was supposed to be easy.  I'm thinking the foil has reprogrammed my brain and now my muscle memory is all off.  Have any of you experienced this?


805StandUp

  • Rincon Status
  • ***
  • Posts: 180
    • View Profile
Re: Does foil surfing ruin your balance
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2018, 02:48:31 PM »
My take is yes, it throws off the timing!  When I started foiling, I swapped back and forth every few sessions with no issues but over the past 1-2 months only foiled until last Thursday when the waves at my foil break were non-existent but a 1/2 mile up at the point it was pumping.  I took the foil off and surfed my 7'4 Hypernut and found that my timing was off on balance/bracing and I forgot how to surf!  Kept trying to turn off my front leg and burying the nose.  Took 3 waves to remind my muscle memory!

PonoBill

  • Cortez Bank Status
  • *****
  • Posts: 21698
    • View Profile
    • Ponohouse is for sale. Great house but it's time for new adventures
Re: Does foil surfing ruin your balance
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2018, 04:09:17 PM »
Absolutely, completely. It takes a least one session to be able to surf again. And if your foiling is not firmly set in muscle memory it will screw your foiling up for a session. I went out on my always-challenging Ku Nalu 12'X25" and flopped around like a newb. Embarrassing. So I took my huge Foote 10'4" X 33" out in some moderate surf and sucked wind for half an hour. I got back into it pretty well after that and had a good session. The next day my foiling sucked for about an hour, then got a little better. All better the next day.

Brains are strange.
Ponohouse is for sale: http://www.ponohouse.com
Foote 10'4X34", SIC 17.5 V1 hollow and an EPS one in Hood River. Foote 9'0" x 31", L41 8'8", 18' Speedboard, etc. etc.

Dwight (DW)

  • Cortez Bank Status
  • *****
  • Posts: 3122
    • View Profile
    • supSURFmachines
Re: Does foil surfing ruin your balance
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2018, 04:41:48 PM »
It totally screwed me over.

It doesn’t upset me too much because I only care about foiling.




Beasho

  • Cortez Bank Status
  • *****
  • Posts: 2103
    • View Profile
Re: Does foil surfing ruin your balance
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2018, 07:46:44 PM »
Affirmative!

The last week we have seen waves ranging from 10 to 50 feet. 

I have been out at Mavericks and Rockies cove on my 12 foot PSH gun (did not go out yesterday Dec 17th for fear of my life). 

I found my balance particularly BAD right before takeoff.  Super unnerving to be launching on 2X+++ type waves and be all wobbly.

My balance was OK standing, terrible from the 6 to 12 mph range, and then better once in surfing stance and riding.

The lack of balance permeated my MOJO and I am wondering if my nerves are getting TOO frazzled for the big stuff.  I am hoping that like KAI the cross training will ultimately only make me stronger.
« Last Edit: December 18, 2018, 07:50:37 PM by Beasho »

eastbound

  • Cortez Bank Status
  • *****
  • Posts: 2113
    • View Profile
Re: Does foil surfing ruin your balance
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2018, 11:08:31 AM »
what's wrong with you guyz??

kai transitions on/off all sorts of watercraft without issues......


Portal Barra 8'4"
Sunova Creek 8'10"
KeNalu Mana 82, xTuf, ergoT

goodfornothin

  • Sunset Status
  • ****
  • Posts: 252
    • View Profile
Re: Does foil surfing ruin your balance
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2018, 12:31:15 PM »
Hahaha, kai=in his 20's, his mitochondria still firing like a furnace,,,,us=old as dirt.  Wuch you gunna do ;D

Swells can be scene a few days out, might be worth the time to get on the board the day before and dust out the cob webs. 

PonoBill

  • Cortez Bank Status
  • *****
  • Posts: 21698
    • View Profile
    • Ponohouse is for sale. Great house but it's time for new adventures
Re: Does foil surfing ruin your balance
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2018, 08:43:02 PM »
what's wrong with you guyz??

kai transitions on/off all sorts of watercraft without issues......

Old, slow, and in the way.
Ponohouse is for sale: http://www.ponohouse.com
Foote 10'4X34", SIC 17.5 V1 hollow and an EPS one in Hood River. Foote 9'0" x 31", L41 8'8", 18' Speedboard, etc. etc.

eastbound

  • Cortez Bank Status
  • *****
  • Posts: 2113
    • View Profile
Re: Does foil surfing ruin your balance
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2018, 02:47:41 PM »
nuttin!

hey----we're still kickin!!!!
Portal Barra 8'4"
Sunova Creek 8'10"
KeNalu Mana 82, xTuf, ergoT

SUPeter

  • Rincon Status
  • ***
  • Posts: 151
    • View Profile
    • Email
Re: Does foil surfing ruin your balance
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2018, 03:30:29 PM »
A definite Yes from me!  Its not that my balance gets worse but I think it is the rhythm and rate of board movement.  With the foil on, the movements side to side are slower and I find that I can not keep up with the much faster wobble of a wingless board.

SanoSlatchSup

  • Peahi Status
  • *****
  • Posts: 698
  • San Clemente
    • View Profile
Re: Does foil surfing ruin your balance
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2018, 05:53:43 PM »
A definite Yes from me!  Its not that my balance gets worse but I think it is the rhythm and rate of board movement.  With the foil on, the movements side to side are slower and I find that I can not keep up with the much faster wobble of a wingless board.
Perfect descriptions of how going from one to the other feels to me a well.
Me: 6'1"/200...5'11" Chelu Foil Board...9'6" Bob Pearson "Laird Noserider"...9'6" Costa Azul Wide Body...14' Lahui Kai "Manta"...8'0" WaveStorm for when proning urges still hit, and 7'3" Chuck Glynn foil board backup.

goodfornothin

  • Sunset Status
  • ****
  • Posts: 252
    • View Profile
Re: Does foil surfing ruin your balance
« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2018, 07:42:54 AM »
Yes we are East, just kicking a little lower these days, Hahah