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Re: Cross-Stepping/Noseriding: My Personal Quest
« Reply #45 on: January 23, 2019, 06:43:51 AM »
Great thread - I've had the 10'1" JL B&B (Concave Nose) for 4 years now, favorite board in my quiver, always have fun on it.

I'll be honest I really haven't messed with the fin placement too much, at least to compare directly (changing during a single session), but I'm going to play with it next time we have some nice LB waves. If I can ever get my Soloshot to record longer than a single 4 GB block of video, I'll throw some videos up, my main struggle right now is backside cross-stepping, for some reason the first step always feels pretty awkard.
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Re: Cross-Stepping/Noseriding: My Personal Quest
« Reply #46 on: January 23, 2019, 07:10:29 AM »
A-Paddle:  Would LOVE to see some of your video when the time comes! 
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Re: Cross-Stepping/Noseriding: My Personal Quest
« Reply #47 on: January 23, 2019, 08:52:11 AM »
These seem to be popular nose riding fins for the younger DoHo crew. https://www.surffcs.com/products/fcs-ii-fatboy-pg-longboard-fin  Partly because their newer boards have fin boxes.
Most the older nose riding longboarder's ride their pig's with a big ass glassed in 'D' fin.   
It's not overhead to me!
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Re: Cross-Stepping/Noseriding: My Personal Quest
« Reply #48 on: January 23, 2019, 09:10:56 AM »
It's a fun fin. Miki D. did it first..
« Last Edit: January 23, 2019, 09:40:31 AM by mrbig »
Let it come to you..
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Re: Cross-Stepping/Noseriding: My Personal Quest
« Reply #49 on: January 23, 2019, 10:02:41 AM »
I've also have a 10" Fatboy fin.
It works well, but generally my favorites on the B&B
are D-Fins or other large surface fins.

People think the D-Fins are hard to turn and that probably
is true with boards from the 1960's but the B&B turns
very easily with a D-fin in it - I think from the extreme
tail rocker (among other things) that it has as Bean alluded to.
And, their huge surface area give lots of stability.
« Last Edit: January 23, 2019, 10:52:03 AM by Subber »
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Re: Cross-Stepping/Noseriding: My Personal Quest
« Reply #50 on: January 23, 2019, 10:33:13 AM »
I had a Midget Farrelly G & S stringerless with this fin! Awesome back in the day!
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Re: Cross-Stepping/Noseriding: My Personal Quest
« Reply #51 on: January 23, 2019, 11:56:59 AM »
I've been riding my old Laird 10 x 28.5 with the stock small center fin (5.5?) and a couple of tiny sidebites, which makes for great turning and speed but some perilous times after cross-stepping up on that wide nose (Laird may be able to spin and survive, but I sure can't, at least not on purpose).
After a glorious chest-high, lined-up, soft day out back, only person as far as I could see, I decided I really wanted to get serious about riding the nose.
So I took off the sidebites and stuck in an old Rainbow 9-inch, which was fun but not quite there. So just ordered the Joel Tudor 10-inch no-flex blocky-looking noserider fin, and can't wait to see if it'll turn me into Joel Tudor. Will report back.
I do know, however, that 10-feet and surfy is a magic spot in the world of SUP.

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Re: Cross-Stepping/Noseriding: My Personal Quest
« Reply #52 on: January 23, 2019, 03:54:37 PM »
The best fin I ever found for noseriding was the monster dolphin fin Jimmy Lewis stuck on the old 11er. My memory says it was 16 inches tall, but that can't be right. I know it stayed in the water when I got to the nose of that board, no matter what.
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Re: Cross-Stepping/Noseriding: My Personal Quest
« Reply #53 on: January 23, 2019, 08:15:25 PM »
The best fin I ever found for noseriding was the monster dolphin fin Jimmy Lewis stuck on the old 11er. My memory says it was 16 inches tall, but that can't be right. I know it stayed in the water when I got to the nose of that board, no matter what.

Recently seen a hatchet fin based on the original weber fin. I think it was 18"
and massive. With your size Pono, I wouldn't rule out that 16", he would  probably put
you on that hatchet if he had it ;D
in progress...

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Re: Cross-Stepping/Noseriding: My Personal Quest
« Reply #54 on: January 24, 2019, 08:52:42 AM »
Actually, it was the fin that came with the production 11er, so he was putting everyone on that fin. For a year or so that was pretty much the best selling SUP board, simply because anyone could stand on it and catch waves. In the early days that was a very big deal. The number of people who could stand on a Ku Nalu/Starboard 12'2" long enough to catch a wave was very small.
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Re: Cross-Stepping/Noseriding: My Personal Quest
« Reply #55 on: February 04, 2019, 04:28:34 PM »
January was a good month with numerous outings.  Yesterday (2/3) was the first outing of this month and an unexpected clean surprise.  Mr. Big joined me on what turned out to be  just shy of a 3-hour session.  I've got a good amount of footage now to sift thru in preparation of my next video and perhaps final video (#3 of 3) per my initial post in this thread.  Its taken me a good year of dedicated trial and error and LOTS of discussion (most w/ Zoners here) to try and figure the whole cross-step and nose ride thing out and I'm thankful to all (including the SS3), which has helped me tremendously. 

Here's a couple of snapshots from yesterday's small wave session.  Even snuck in a few Quasi-Quasimoto rides yesterday.   8) 8) 8)





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Re: Cross-Stepping/Noseriding: My Personal Quest
« Reply #56 on: February 05, 2019, 03:37:46 AM »
congrats whatsSup

now what, tho? after an accomplishment like this............

you and biggie seem to be a good team
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Re: Cross-Stepping/Noseriding: My Personal Quest
« Reply #57 on: February 05, 2019, 03:53:23 AM »
The best fin I ever found for noseriding was the monster dolphin fin Jimmy Lewis stuck on the old 11er. My memory says it was 16 inches tall, but that can't be right. I know it stayed in the water when I got to the nose of that board, no matter what.
I think they were 13”. I have three of them hidden away somewhere, so I should check. They are great for when you need an extreme solution. Many JL boards came standardly with a 11” “noserider” fin, back in the day, so those are actually the most common. Even the 11” is big by today’s standards. I don’t think there ever been another fin quite like the 13” one though - it was nicknamed the “Great White”. If you downwind in super-confused and super-strong downwind conditions, it can be quite useful, especially when you are starting out DWing.

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Re: Cross-Stepping/Noseriding: My Personal Quest
« Reply #58 on: February 05, 2019, 04:42:57 AM »
congrats whatsSup

now what, tho? after an accomplishment like this............

you and biggie seem to be a good team

Oh my.....long list Eastie!  Hang 10's, backwards nose-rides, that 360 board slide/move, create some whacky new poses............Many years of stuff to try to learn!!!!!

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Re: Cross-Stepping/Noseriding: My Personal Quest
« Reply #59 on: February 05, 2019, 10:40:30 AM »
Good stuff Whatz^^^.... looking nosy in the one shot!
Stoked for your next vid!
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