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Fanatic Aero 1500 Foil
« on: September 17, 2018, 09:59:49 PM »
Shooting the pier on the new Fanatic . I've been testing this last few weeks , pretty wild foil to ride not really a beginner set up they do have a new wings on the way , with more more low speed pump and stability.  8) 

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Re: Fanatic Aero 1500 Foil
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2018, 01:03:43 AM »
Sorry should have posted this in videos , could you move please admin.Thanks
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Re: Fanatic Aero 1500 Foil
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2018, 11:31:24 AM »
Piros - great vid. 

Is there a recomended rider weight/range for the Aero 1500?


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Re: Fanatic Aero 1500 Foil
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2018, 11:34:52 AM »
Should include this one on this thread too.  It's realy cool to see all the new foil stuff coming down the pike.


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Re: Fanatic Aero 1500 Foil
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2018, 04:52:15 PM »
The 1500 is a pretty decent sized foil so it would support guys in the low 200lb club. The new wing is a 2000 so pretty well anyone could ride that.
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Re: Fanatic Aero 1500 Foil
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2018, 07:22:00 PM »
I feel vindicated that my foil ideas of using thin and low aspect foils are now being manufactured and that they are faster and easier to ride.
  ĎMore manouverable and higher top speed.í
 Just as I said a few years ago.
 The other manufacturers will have to follow this design if they havenít got something similar in the lab already.
 
« Last Edit: September 18, 2018, 07:31:13 PM by SURFFOILS »

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Re: Fanatic Aero 1500 Foil
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2018, 08:38:02 PM »
The 1500 is a pretty decent sized foil so it would support guys in the low 200lb club. The new wing is a 2000 so pretty well anyone could ride that.

So the 1500 and 2000 refer to the area in square cm?  Pretty close (in area) to the GF Iwa and Maliko 200?

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Re: Fanatic Aero 1500 Foil
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2018, 03:56:10 AM »
Surfoils the Aero is very different Yes and itís a pretty wild foil to ride. Turns super hard but very twitchy definitely not easier to ride. Speed wise itís up there but not the same glide as the IWA .

Bean yes thatís a good comparison, the Aero although a Boomerang shape the area looks similar to the IWA so guessing the 2000 would be around the GF200 area .
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Re: Fanatic Aero 1500 Foil
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2018, 05:47:05 AM »
Piros, youíre  never going to get the same Ďglideí from a flatter foil but the physical dimensions of the swept foil would show it to be not twitchy, if anything itís going to be slower to react and therefore more stable. Have you contacted the manufacturers to say that that their advertising is wrong  about it being more stable ? I canít believe anyone would make a foil thats very twitchy and harder to ride....?
The greater thickness of an old style foil creates lift out of nothing but also makes it very jumpy when sharp lift and power is tapped, as shown is many videos.
 Th advantage of a swept/ low aspect foil is that it doesnít have the same wide range of lift but itís more reliable in more stable energy positions on a wave. I think the Fanatic has found the balance but makers will progress the design to find even more stable designs to bring in a wider market for their products.
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Re: Fanatic Aero 1500 Foil
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2018, 12:05:19 PM »
Surffoils I rode over 100 waves on that foil and yes I gave a full detailed review to Fanatic for Sky & his R&D team. Thatís what I do test foils. The Aero is an advanced foil and yes itís super twitchy and a handful to control but it is heaps of fun to ride. The wing flex in turns is something else making it carve hard but at the same time making it hard to transfer from heel side to toe side you get caught in the turn. Jump on it and give a go and youíll see what I mean.

Fanatic are definitely onto something thatís for sure and yes agree smaller higher aspect wings will be more common place.
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Re: Fanatic Aero 1500 Foil
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2018, 01:11:16 PM »
Thanks for that Piros. What a great job testing foils !
Looking forward to new designs like everyone.
I can see from the design that with the swept tips are going to make it slower turning from side to side becuase the further you sweep them back the more stable they are but you can alter that by bringing the overall width in.
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Re: Fanatic Aero 1500 Foil
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2018, 01:16:39 PM »
Piros, as a virtual beginner at 210 lbs and focused more toward slower SUP/surf, I'm looking forward to hearing more about the Aero 2000 as it rolls out.  Do you know if FAnatic will be ofering different mast lenghts?

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Re: Fanatic Aero 1500 Foil
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2018, 07:09:08 PM »
Surffoils I forgot to add the Aero is amazing on late take off's you feel very safe and you can ride it full height comfortably without breaching , it handles speed very well where other designs will blow out near the top end.

Bean yes the 2000 will have a thicker leading edge so and more user friendly , this is from Fanatic in response to my review on the 1500.

" Iím not too stressed that this foil is quite advanced as we have a 2000 cm2 coming with a much thicker foil to run at low speed  / pump / more stable"

So yes 2000 will suit you better .The foil comes with a 750mm mast which I personally think is a bit too long , they already produce a 600mm mast with their existing foils (which fit the Aero BTW) so I suggested to Fanatic to use the 600 as a stock mast and keep the 750 as an option. For me personally I think overall versatile mast length is best at 630 to 650 IMHO for surfing but for DWer's go long..... 750 to 850.
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Re: Fanatic Aero 1500 Foil
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2018, 11:14:56 PM »
Piros, Iím stoked to see the Fanatic foil, Iím familiar with how design affects speed and lift, a flatter foil wonít have the exponential lift at higher speeds like the standard foils and with more lift coming from the foils AOA itís a more stable ride. The swept tips will give more lift during turns than a straight foil, the sweep will also reduce ventilation.
If surfers can give up the Pump, a much shorter mast gives a more responsive and surfboard feel. Iím riding about 8Ē so the hull is just 4 or 5 off the water.
 
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Re: Fanatic Aero 1500 Foil
« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2018, 07:36:29 PM »
That thinner profile would be way easier to model out of a sheet of ply.

That may have to be my next diy test.

Love to see the progression. Have to mention that if you take the tail off of this itís damn close to what surffoils has done in the past. Yíall remember all the arguments about flat foils not lifting? Apparently you donít need an inch and a half of profile to get lift. Surface area can contribute as well.