It’s that time of year 2019 sup boards

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Thanks for the review. 10 liters less is a whole 'nother world in my experience.

[NorthJerzSurfer]

i go to monmo when wind is west, too

hit me next time youve time and there's a swell either way

figures potential to swap some nice new stix would draw you out of hiding--or child-rearing, or maybe even teen-rearing mixed with some honey-doing at this point!

happens

HAHAHA.....Wed looks killer here in MoCo and a blowout in NY....Let me know if you make it down!

[NorthJerzSurfer]

Thanks for the review. 10 liters less is a whole 'nother world in my experience.

couldnt agree more- My 'big board is 128L and small is 117l.  and they are an absolute world of difference in stability and performance

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I sold my 128L board because it felt too corky, and my 117L board is so small I can barely ride it. Its frustrating because I feel like I'm in a small sweet spot for boards, and not too many companies are making surf models in that 120-125 range.

[gzasinets]

I sold my 128L board because it felt too corky, and my 117L board is so small I can barely ride it. Its frustrating because I feel like I'm in a small sweet spot for boards, and not too many companies are making surf models in that 120-125 range.

I would guess you need to demo more boards if you can - volume is just one part of equation. My 8.8 JL supertech is quite a stable board @112L so I recently demoed infinity bline 8.2x29 @101L and to my biggest surprise It felt more stable than JL. I guess rail shape as well as tail shapes can make a drastic difference in stability.

[TallDude]

Here's a SoCal local SUP brand that I think originates from the guys at Paddlesurf Warehouse? I been seeing more and more around. There SUP surf line seems to be geared towards bigger guys, like me. The price point is right and they seem to be well built (but no hands on yet). This 9'4 interests me. It's right in the volume and it a shape I like. Price is right for the SoCal market. I have no affiliation with these guys or gals just like their range of boards. 

https://veslpaddleboards.com/paddle-boards/sup-surf/vesl-paddle-surf-series-9-4-sup.html

[RideTheGlide]

Here's a SoCal local SUP brand that I think originates from the guys at Paddlesurf Warehouse? I been seeing more and more around. There SUP surf line seems to be geared towards bigger guys, like me. The price point is right and they seem to be well built (but no hands on yet). This 9'4 interests me. It's right in the volume and it a shape I like. Price is right for the SoCal market. I have no affiliation with these guys or gals just like their range of boards. 

https://veslpaddleboards.com/paddle-boards/sup-surf/vesl-paddle-surf-series-9-4-sup.html

They have an all around that has my attention. It also comes in  11' and 11'6", sort of. I say sort of because they are single fine and described as being substantially better than the 10'6 in flat water. The 10'6" is definitely surf oriented. The guy in the video mostly looks laid back like it is an easy board to surf but every now and then he makes a really advanced moved and blows his cover. 

[supsean]

I sold my 128L board because it felt too corky, and my 117L board is so small I can barely ride it. Its frustrating because I feel like I'm in a small sweet spot for boards, and not too many companies are making surf models in that 120-125 range.

Were they the same kind of board just with different liters?

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Were they the same kind of board just with different liters?

I would guess you need to demo more boards if you can - volume is just one part of equation. My 8.8 JL supertech is quite a stable board @112L so I recently demoed infinity bline 8.2x29 @101L and to my biggest surprise It felt more stable than JL. I guess rail shape as well as tail shapes can make a drastic difference in stability.

How close to neutral or negative buoyancy did that volume change get you? 128 to 117 took me from a 1.2 weight to volume ratio to 1.09. The big change there is that you have to work to keep the nose above water or else you pearl. In this case, I went from a JP Pro 8'10 to a Rawson 8'4. Similar outlines. I also had a 115L tomo-shape for a while, and while that outline is more stable, once you lose a certain amount of volume you have to worry about fore/aft stablity along with side to side, and that's when it stops being fun for me.

[supsean]

How close to neutral or negative buoyancy did that volume change get you? 128 to 117 took me from a 1.2 weight to volume ratio to 1.09. The big change there is that you have to work to keep the nose above water or else you pearl. In this case, I went from a JP Pro 8'10 to a Rawson 8'4. Similar outlines. I also had a 115L tomo-shape for a while, and while that outline is more stable, once you lose a certain amount of volume you have to worry about fore/aft stablity along with side to side, and that's when it stops being fun for me.

I get it. I guess when you get down close to a 1.0, then your board, especially if it is an aggressive surf shape with a pulled in tail, really starts sinking. I am looking to go down to 1.35-1.40 from 1.70. I hope that there is a lot more give in this range, as the 1.70 ratio is really feeling very corky and sluggish. I am also thinking of going to a more tomo-like shape as well.

[mrbig]

The Tomo shape will have an enormous impact on stability.

My shortest board was a JP Slate 7'6" x 29" x 115 liters and it was more stable and easier to ride than an 8' x 31" 120 liter board.

The square outline made an enormous contribution to stability. Unfortunately for me, in hollow waves the sharp points in the nose led to some unrecoverable pearls. Getting smacked in the chops not fun. Newer JP slates are rounded at the corners. Maybe it wasn't just me!
 
I weigh 145 and am 5'8". Had a big sell off a while back as many of my  boards started to have that corky feel even while wearing a suit of armor wetsuit in the winter.

Borrow, beg, steal, rent to try and find out where you are at. I can paddle low liter,  narrow boards in clean conditions which we get once a month.

The literage is one very important factor, width, planshape, and length all play a role in finding a board that is right for you!

As always YMMV!

[burchas]

Here's a SoCal local SUP brand that I think originates from the guys at Paddlesurf Warehouse? I been seeing more and more around. There SUP surf line seems to be geared towards bigger guys, like me. The price point is right and they seem to be well built (but no hands on yet). This 9'4 interests me. It's right in the volume and it a shape I like. Price is right for the SoCal market. I have no affiliation with these guys or gals just like their range of boards. 

https://veslpaddleboards.com/paddle-boards/sup-surf/vesl-paddle-surf-series-9-4-sup.html

Yes that's Paddlesurf Warehouse. The owner is a smart guy, copied all the good stuff from other established
brands and has his own production line in China, passing the savings to the consumer. Paddles too, copied
the V-Drive and Trifecta and selling those for $240 all carbon. Being in Costa Mesa, I'm sure QB is not too
happy about it. But good deal for the consumer

[NorthJerzSurfer]

Were they the same kind of board just with different liters?

I would guess you need to demo more boards if you can - volume is just one part of equation. My 8.8 JL supertech is quite a stable board @112L so I recently demoed infinity bline 8.2x29 @101L and to my biggest surprise It felt more stable than JL. I guess rail shape as well as tail shapes can make a drastic difference in stability.

I also have the 8'4 raw...and its amazing but on the lower end of what I can handle @ 215 with full jersey winter rubber.

Conversely I could be in victry at sea conditions on my 127L JL Supertech 9'1.

The 120-125 liter sweet spot in a surf shape is real tough to find.  Most jump from 110-112L right to 128-133 or so
How close to neutral or negative buoyancy did that volume change get you? 128 to 117 took me from a 1.2 weight to volume ratio to 1.09. The big change there is that you have to work to keep the nose above water or else you pearl. In this case, I went from a JP Pro 8'10 to a Rawson 8'4. Similar outlines. I also had a 115L tomo-shape for a while, and while that outline is more stable, once you lose a certain amount of volume you have to worry about fore/aft stablity along with side to side, and that's when it stops being fun for me.