Sharing Strategies from other Sports

[Bean]

Now everyone is going to want a dugout...

[photofr]

BEAN: You shouldn't have.
AREA is going to say that this guy should be wearing a leash, a PFD... or that a dugout is dangerous. 

[pdxmike]

SaMo--Where did you get that FOMO graphic?  I've never seen it, and I thought I was pretty savvy to that stuff.  Did you already know what FOMO meant?  Am I the only one here that didn't?  Did everyone else already know about it? If you did, how did you find out?   

[Dusk Patrol]

^  We need a "like" button...

[Bean]

BEAN: You shouldn't have.
AREA is going to say that this guy should be wearing a leash, a PFD... or that a dugout is dangerous. 

AREA would be correct, since a canoe does not meet the USCG exception for a PFD in the surf zone.  One has to ask, can the current crop of dugouts even be classified as SUP's?  After all, if it walks like a duck...

[photofr]

Look on the bright side:
If it doesn't look like a SUP, and if it looks fast...then it must be a racing craft (which BTW falls under a special derogation)

[SaMoSUP]

SaMo--Where did you get that FOMO graphic?  I've never seen it, and I thought I was pretty savvy to that stuff.  Did you already know what FOMO meant?  Am I the only one here that didn't?  Did everyone else already know about it? If you did, how did you find out?   

Haha that's classic FOMO response. I figured that was a good image to use for those that truly missed out.

FOGO is another condition some Zoners may be suffering from

[Bean]

I'll bite; fear of getting old?

[JEG]

that canoe would glide & turn well, look at the old school smile.

[Bean]

It might not hold too well on a steep face, but apparently Ron Drummond would paddle out in 15' swells!

[SaMoSUP]

I'll bite; fear of getting old?

Well Bean looks like we now know your FO type lol! Yes that is one definition of FOGO. But in context with this thread it means Fear Of Getting Out as it seems like some folks are living by this thread 

[Bean]

That ship sailed, in my case it's actually fear of getting oldER...

[stoneaxe]

If you guys want to believe that dugout boards aren't popular, you are in total denial, and need to look around.

I think you need to get over your bad self. The arrogance of that comment is amazing.
10 years of CCBC 30 mile open ocean crossings, 100's of folks with boards in excess of 12'-6"...…. dugouts...I don't remember one. I don't attend races like I used to and dugouts have come relatively late to the scene but I've I have always paid attention to the boards I see. Around here...dugouts might be 1-100..probably more like 1-500, of 14'+ boards maybe 1-50. Very popular....

You are taking my sentence completely out of context.
1) I am referring to the fact that you need to really take a good look around AND you will notice that nearly all current manufacturers are NOW coming up with their own version of a dugout boards. No, I didn't mean for it to sound like an arrogant piece of sheetz.
2) I am sorry that your CCBC race only attracted 30 or so paddlers in 2015 - but there were in fact couple of dugout boards. I would have brought my 17'6 x 23" for sure - on that day. Don't take my words for it, just take a look at the video that's online. I am actually super surprised that there were more Mistral, Starboard dugout (like the Sprint or the Equinox) out there... for the conditions seems pretty darn ideal.

Seriously interesting that you are not seeing more participants during that race.

I was done with this thread...figured it had to have run it's course...then read through what I hadn't yet seen and felt compelled to reply....

It wasn't me taking you out of context, you weren't specific in your comment. Pretty sure most of us took it the same way. That said I'm being a bit unfair maybe....the CCBC isn't a race so boards designed for racing aren't necessary so less dropped decks are not surprising I guess. But the general observation of less of them still stands. That doesn't bode well for the even more extreme dugout. I'd be willing to bet that 90% of the dugouts you see in the next year will disappear in 5, and not because the designs don't work for their purpose but simply because they won't sell enough.

CCBC was never designed for a very large turnout...50 is our target # and about our average. We've managed to raise over a $1,000,000 for kids with cancer doing it so I guess we've been doing something right. Seeing a big drop in #'s this year though. I think for a lot of folks the 10th anniversary was their last. That's another part of the equation. The overall drop in participation in events has to make dugouts an iffy proposition at best. More expensive to build, ship, and sell and the design is old in a year....and less and less people interested in what it does well.

[Califoilia]

When Nostradamus starts posting here we might get our final answer, but till then...it's all just speculation, and personal opinion on the future of dugout SUPs mass market appeal, and/or really that of the entire sport in general. My personal perception is that we're see less "SUP first timers" in the surf compared to just a couple of year ago.

But that could just be what we're seeing locally (although our once "surf beach" sure is seeing an overflow of just "beach goers"), and with the popularity of the foil (taking more SUPs out of the line up), and where we're doing it away from where most of the SUP newbs would be maybe I've just isolated myself from it.

Although I do spend plenty of time on the beach observing, and there just seems to be a big swing on the numbers now on the beach to the reduction of numbers of those actually in the water, and atop a board. Others have also commented on how there's lines of cars at the top waiting to get in, no stops available once you are, and the once you do find a spot and hit the water....you nearly have the whole place to yourself. Strange times for sure. 

[stoneaxe]

I'm pretty sure Nostradamus penned a quatrain about canoe SUP's sucking.....