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Re: Production foilboards
« Reply #60 on: September 24, 2018, 07:08:52 PM »
Looks like pop-out foil boards have hit Craigslist in SoCal for $899 + $50 air cargo

https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/spo/d/sup-demarco-sup-foil-board/6704876732.html
Word on the beach is that a local Zoner just bought one this weekend, and will be picking it up tomorrow sometime...so hopefully we get a report on it in the not too distant future.  :)
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Re: Production foilboards
« Reply #61 on: September 24, 2018, 08:08:43 PM »
Burchas ... but how many rides before the break?  I saw a young guy out yesterday at San Onofre on a tiny skimboard with the foil bolted to it.

Hopefully enough rides to get me through the basics :) By then I'll know if I want to invest in a proper board. BTW, how did the guy on the skimboard do?

The concern SlatchJim brought up is really why I haven't jumped on the foil yet. Just don't
feel like spending 3K on something I'll find obsolete if I don't like, and by the time I want to sell,
it's already worthless.

Getting into sup, surf or otherwise, one can get away with $500-$700 and have something
decent enough these days. No reason Foil should be any different.
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Re: Production foilboards
« Reply #62 on: September 24, 2018, 08:38:47 PM »
Yeah but back when I got into SUP a new board retailed at $1400-$1500 and up and then a $250 paddle so really we’re right back there.

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Re: Production foilboards
« Reply #63 on: September 25, 2018, 08:51:15 AM »
Burchas ... the kid on the skimboard like is making it looks way too easy.  He barely took few strokes and pop'd right up and just rippin' it.  I looked like a kook out there learning.

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« Reply #64 on: September 25, 2018, 11:36:26 AM »
The concern SlatchJim brought up is really why I haven't jumped on the foil yet. Just don't
feel like spending 3K on something I'll find obsolete if I don't like, and by the time I want to sell,
it's already worthless.

This is 100% true and RISKY.

However - I have not met anybody that hasn't gone ALL in to foiling.  I do have the advantage of a great place to learn but I am starting to think that the whole world is a great place to learn. 

The 'Cheap' way to get in would be to modify an old 8' or 9' SUP.  If you have a SUP and the supplies resin/glass/carbon its $100 to install a Tuttle box.  I didn't want to do it the first time but knowing what I know now I would consider it (and I have reinstalled 2 full Tuttles at this point). 

The Foil:  You will have to spend money.  DO NOT START with the KAI.

The GoFoil IWA would be the gold standard to cover all bases.  This will run you $1,300 or more.  Alternately you could try Robert's (BluePlanets) new foil and cut the price in half.  I am very wary of the Slingshot and any other modified Kite foils because 1) I have not seen any fly well 2) There are so few videos of them flying well 
« Last Edit: September 25, 2018, 11:38:04 AM by Beasho »

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Re: Production foilboards
« Reply #65 on: September 25, 2018, 12:48:36 PM »
This is 100% true and RISKY.

I've been following your progression and it seems like you're pretty much on top of it 8)
so knowing what you know now, do you think learning to foil prone would be easier,
assuming you have a decent spot to practice?

I ask you since I assume you haven't started surfing on a stand-up.
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Re: Production foilboards
« Reply #66 on: September 25, 2018, 01:25:41 PM »
JP have just released a couple of nice ones. I have be been riding the protos for the past few months. 6-8 x 26 - 96 litres and the 7-0 x 28 - 115 litres. Very clever design giving good stability and paddle speed for such small boards. Construction is tuff as nails , I gave the protos back with zero damage . This is a pic of me on the 6-8
« Last Edit: September 25, 2018, 01:28:19 PM by Piros »
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Re: Production foilboards
« Reply #67 on: September 25, 2018, 01:35:30 PM »
How much volume is in the 5'6"?

If you can stand on it you can learn on it.    :)

From memory, it’s roughly 96L @5.9” thick.

My go-to Sup is 7’5”x25”x4” @84L, 9.2lbs. (Traditional short board shape)
I’m 41, weigh 167lbs and am a big proponent of narrow boards.
But, I’m also a weight snob.
The DK boards aren’t exactly light.
But, everything’s made at a price point.
His design looks to be pretty advanced.

I probably won’t buy one before heading back to the mainland.
Maybe my shaper can whip up a carbon one.


Also, my inner-researcher is having a bit of trouble finding foil boards for sale online. Or, at least, looking at representations of what you can buy in person.

I Googled “Dave Kalama foil” and haven’t found any photos of the boards I saw at the local surf shop. Not a big deal. Just trying to gather as much info as possible before making a purchase.
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Re: Production foilboards
« Reply #68 on: September 25, 2018, 03:39:02 PM »
From memory, it’s roughly 96L @5.9” thick.


I like how he is going super thick with his designs.  Volume has always been very good to me.  Weight not so much.
 
I would rather have to do repairs if it gets me a lighter board.

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Re: Production foilboards
« Reply #69 on: September 25, 2018, 04:54:28 PM »
so knowing what you know now, do you think learning to foil prone would be easier,
assuming you have a decent spot to practice?

I ask you since I assume you haven't started surfing on a stand-up.

I learned to surf on a "Surfboard" and then switched to SUP after ~ 10 years.  I clearly learned to Foil on SUP-Foil board.

I was inclined to go to the Prone board for the perceived pump-ability.  2 things cured that itch:

1) I built the Ghetto foil in CT - 3' 3" shorter than any foil board.  I was hoping I could pump forever and I couldn't.  It was mildly better than my 6' 6" Easy Foiler but NOT 80% better considering it was 1 /2 the length and moment of inertia is based on the square of the length.

2) I suggested to Jeff Clark that I was going to try prone foiling and he said "Oh good there will be more waves for the rest of us."



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Re: Production foilboards
« Reply #70 on: September 25, 2018, 04:58:27 PM »
While it may LOOK like I could go on forever I could NOT. 

I think it would be 2X easier to learn foiling standing up than jumping up.  The appeal of the prone board was to pump back to the lineup. 

I haven't seen many if ANY videos of older guys doing this.  It may come but the younger guys are doing it at a rate of 10 to 100 vs. the 1 older guy that may pull it off.  I can pump on flat water for ~ 20 seconds.  At 10 mph this is 15 ft / second so I can cover 300 yards BUT by the time you get back to the lineup you are gassed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUxgGLhOL5s

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Re: Production foilboards
« Reply #71 on: September 25, 2018, 05:36:26 PM »
I think it would be 2X easier to learn foiling standing up than jumping up.  The appeal of the prone board was to pump back to the lineup. 

Thx, itch cured ;D Now back to the most affordable path.
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Re: Production foilboards
« Reply #72 on: October 02, 2018, 05:16:07 PM »
2019 New kids on the block to add to the list & all in stock

Fanatic 6-4 x 27 - 96 L
Sup Foil only , no foot strap mounts
Track only Mount

JP 6-8 x 26 -96 L
Sup & Wind Foil with foot strap mounts
Track mount only (available in wood or Pro version)

Starboard 6-10 x 26.5 - 91 L (4 in one)
Sup , Foil & Surf & Wind foil with dual foot strap mounts
Track & Tuttle mount

It's amazing to see how fast this sport has progressed with stock boards coming out sub 7-0 , Sunova is also there as well with sub 7's & 6's but they are constantly evolving , what this space they have some great new ones coming out.
« Last Edit: October 02, 2018, 05:21:05 PM by Piros »
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Re: Production foilboards
« Reply #73 on: October 02, 2018, 08:45:29 PM »
Couple more sub 7-0's

Jimmy Lewis & Slingshot

6'5" X 28.5" 4.25"(107L)
6'11" X 29" 4.3"(122L)

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Re: Production foilboards
« Reply #74 on: October 03, 2018, 05:55:44 AM »
These look fantastic.

The first question I always ask my wife:

"How much?"

I think I know the answer to which I respond "Really for a 6' surf board?"

 


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