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Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
« Reply #30 on: October 11, 2017, 10:37:57 AM »
I'd go with the 8'0".  Once you get 8 feet and under, small differences in length matter.  The sweet spot for balance becomes much smaller and all of your movements need to be more compact and precise.  Going down from an 8'4" to an 8'0" should be not much adjustment, but 7'6" could be more challenging.

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Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
« Reply #31 on: October 11, 2017, 03:18:35 PM »
Badger-  have your ridden /considered the Hypernut?  I have the 7'4 @ 105l at my 215lbs.

I also can only ride it in perfect conditions- and without winter gear.  If you are looking for a small wave machine at 170lb it might be a good choice.  I love it in the right conditions- it just happens too infrequently. (Trade? Hmm Hmm:)

  I myself was thinking about getting rid of it to get something back in the 115l-120l range so i can use it with a wetsuit and in choppier conditions and the super frank was one of those considered.

I looked at the Hypernuts online a few months ago but haven't considered them since I got interested in the Super Frank.

It was the claims of shortboard stability that sparked my interest in the SF. One problem I have with my 8'4 Flow is that it's too unstable to ride except on very clean days. The other complaint is that it's sluggish on small waves. I'm thinking the the SF might be slightly more stable. I paddled a 7'2 x 30.5  102L custom last week and it didn't seem too bad.

The HN 7'4 and 7'8 do have a nice shape but they don't look as stable as the SF. It's impossible to say without standing on one.

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Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
« Reply #32 on: October 11, 2017, 03:31:12 PM »
they probably are similar- as someone on this thread mentioned- going under 8' really adds the the 'front to back' stability issues regardless of shape. but once you nail it- its amazing what under 8 boards do on a wave.

the SF looks like a better version of the  pocket rocket shape.   Badger- if you are ever down near NJ you are free to try my HN.   I have to keep a paddle in the water @ 215lbs- but I dont have to be moving to balance.   should be more than stable for you at 170.   

The HN is 106l and I tried a 'tradtional' shape at 7'11 110l and i couldn't stand on it for a second.






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Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
« Reply #33 on: October 11, 2017, 03:32:52 PM »
I'd go with the 8'0".  Once you get 8 feet and under, small differences in length matter.  The sweet spot for balance becomes much smaller and all of your movements need to be more compact and precise.  Going down from an 8'4" to an 8'0" should be not much adjustment, but 7'6" could be more challenging.

I agree. I'm pretty sure I could handle the 7'6 but the 8'0 would be easier which would allow it to cover a wider range of conditions.

I still haven't heard from the shop if I canceled my order in time before they put the 7'6 on the truck. I wouldn't feel right refusing the board if it shows up. It can't be returned to the warehouse and it's not a board they could easily sell.

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Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
« Reply #34 on: October 11, 2017, 03:53:43 PM »
Yeah, I'd still take the advantages of going down to 7'6" over the drawbacks of the decreased glide and width. It's just so much fun to snap a sub-8' board around, I can do a lot of things on the 7'6" that I can't do on a larger board.
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Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
« Reply #35 on: October 12, 2017, 01:42:33 AM »
I really think I'd be happy with either board.

The 8'0 has the advantage of slightly more glide but I don't mind the challenges of going shorter. The 7'6 might be a little be less stable but will also be more maneuverable. Having the wide point a bit forward of center should help the board feel not overly wide when turning.


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Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
« Reply #36 on: October 13, 2017, 03:25:08 PM »
Turns out I didn't cancel the order in time so it looks like I'm getting the 7'6.

It should be here within a few days. I can't wait to try it. I think it will be a fun board.
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Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
« Reply #37 on: October 14, 2017, 09:37:08 AM »
Hope you like it, I'd like to hear how it compares.  I usually don't like wide boards because I've found them to be slow but it will be interesting to hear how the regular SuperFrank rides since I haven't tried one.

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Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
« Reply #38 on: October 14, 2017, 12:36:04 PM »
Hope you like it, I'd like to hear how it compares.  I usually don't like wide boards because I've found them to be slow but it will be interesting to hear how the regular SuperFrank rides since I haven't tried one.

my Hypernut at 31.5" wide is the fastest board i've ever been on. wide doesn't necessarily = slow.

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Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
« Reply #39 on: October 15, 2017, 06:09:48 AM »
My new surfboard should be here tomorrow! I'll do a review after a few sessions.

These are some good shots of the shape.  7'6 x 31" 115 liters

http://jimmylewis.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/frank-deck-orange.jpg

http://jimmylewis.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/frank-bottom-orange.jpg

http://jimmylewis.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/frank-side-orange.jpg

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Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
« Reply #40 on: October 16, 2017, 07:39:52 AM »
My new surfboard should be here tomorrow! I'll do a review after a few sessions.

These are some good shots of the shape.  7'6 x 31" 115 liters

http://jimmylewis.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/frank-deck-orange.jpg

http://jimmylewis.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/frank-bottom-orange.jpg

http://jimmylewis.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/frank-side-orange.jpg

I think you are really going to like it, the tail is pulled in nice. Let me know how it goes.
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Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
« Reply #41 on: October 16, 2017, 11:27:27 AM »
Hope you like it, I'd like to hear how it compares.  I usually don't like wide boards because I've found them to be slow but it will be interesting to hear how the regular SuperFrank rides since I haven't tried one.

my Hypernut at 31.5" wide is the fastest board i've ever been on. wide doesn't necessarily = slow.

 Agree... shortidh wide boards are not It the fastest to paddle but on a wave they can really motor....

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Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
« Reply #42 on: June 13, 2018, 06:51:33 AM »
Ok, I'm now debating the same - 78 kg, I've got a 8'8" SuperTech for chest+, but most of my waves are below that and mushy. I had a 7'4" JP Surf Wide that is comparable, but I sold it because I felt like it was a bit too wide (31"), 112L and yaw'ed quite a bit, that and I like JL boards.

So, I'm trying to decide between the 7'6" and 8' lean, I really don't have a ton of interest in going to the wider "regular" model, I like a thin rail, and 31" seems too wide. I'm just a bit worried with the 7'6" at 100L that it will be tricky in onshore, mixed up conditions.

Any thoughts? Ha, and I really am starting to have a problem trading/buying/selling boards constantly, but I really like trying new equipment and I feel like SUP surfing and having the right board for the conditions makes a fairly big difference in how much fun you are going to have.

So - as it stands now, my quiver would be:

10'1" Black and Blue - Noseriding/longboarding
8'8" SuperTech - chest+
7'6" or 8' Super Frank - anything below chest+ and I want to ride something that I can pivot/turn really quick in smaller waves (as opposed to the B&B when I want to noseride/longboard style)

Any thoughts?
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Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
« Reply #43 on: June 13, 2018, 09:18:11 AM »
review??
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Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
« Reply #44 on: June 13, 2018, 10:43:56 AM »
review??

Badger posted on for the 7'6 regular somewhere on here.
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