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« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2017, 09:58:28 AM »
The slide down if you stop is terrifyingly steep. I've been out of the water for a little over a month after carpal tunnel surgery on both hands--the doc wouldn't do them both at the same time, dammit. My biceps and triceps look like someone let the air out of them and the skin on them looks like crepe paper. I'll be back at it shortly, but even working out to try to keep the muscle doesn't compare to ten miles of downwinder or a day of surfing.
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« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2017, 11:06:04 AM »
The slide down if you stop is terrifyingly steep. I've been out of the water for a little over a month after carpal tunnel surgery on both hands--the doc wouldn't do them both at the same time, dammit. My biceps and triceps look like someone let the air out of them and the skin on them looks like crepe paper. I'll be back at it shortly, but even working out to try to keep the muscle doesn't compare to ten miles of downwinder or a day of surfing.
I went thru the same exact thing about 5-6 years ago, my doc said "I can do them both at the same time if you'd like", I said "no thanks, my wife loves me, but not that much".
My money says your wife is relieved that you didn't doooo that.
It takes a quiver to do that.

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« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2017, 12:28:31 PM »
Just last night after a fairly long windsurfing session, my buddies and I were talking about what we are doing to our bodies (we're all in our 60's), by refusing to give up windsurfing (in the ocean/waves).  The thought process being, are we shortening our useful lives, mostly orthopedically, or lengthening them in the long run?  Are we too dumb to quit?  Are we in denial?
After a bit of going back and forth on the issue, we came to a consensus, FUCK IT!  Live for today, tomorrow will take care of itself, and besides, that's what Ibuprofen is for.

Hahaha! Good for you hanging in there with sailing. At one time, that was my number 1 watersport. Pretty much for the entire decade that I was in my 30's. Now, as 60 looms in a month or so, I go once or twice a year. I should have bought shares in Ibuprofen manufacturing.

I was never a great windsurfer but I was at least competent, hitting my jibes 95% of the time, able to do what I wanted to on a wave face without looking like a complete kook. Not anymore. My new once a year schedule of sailing has really had an effect (I went for almost an entire day, about a week ago). I spin out more when I'm going warp speed with ugly consequences. I miss my jibes 60% of the time now. I can't point upwind like I used to. I got pitched over the handlebars and onto the sail while hooked in at least 5 or 6 times over the course of sailing for a couple of hours. I even rigged my sail wrong, downhauling it way too much because I wanted to be sure it would depower some in the bigger gusts.  At least I can waterstart perfectly - I guess you never forget that. Good thing, or I'd have had to do a swim of shame.  But, talk about Ibuprofen! Hahaha! I had to take vitamin I for a couple of days following sailing last week. But, even in my prime, it used to beat me up pretty good.

In decent winds, on a wave board, there is nothing but 100%, giving it all the time. I love that about sailing. But, I would rather surf, downwind or sup surf. Those sports seem so much less intense and violent. And, you're not hooked in and strapped onto the gear. The day I went last, I was on my 85 liter wave board and lit up on a 4.7. So fun, but very intense.

I like that paddling and surfing give me a great workout without the unpredictable hammering that I get from windsurfing. I'm sure if I started going again, it would get better but it really does give your body a thrashing. I don't know where my passion for the sport went but I am extremely thankful that I am every bit as passionate about surfing and paddling as I ever was about windsurfing. All is not lost.

What's really cool, to me anyway, is how many older people are still windsurfing and doing very well at it. Going to the parking lot at Upper Kanaha on Maui is unreal. There are plenty of good sailors that are well into their 60's, 70's and even beyond that. Pretty inspiring.




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« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2017, 02:22:12 PM »
The slide down if you stop is terrifyingly steep. I've been out of the water for a little over a month after carpal tunnel surgery on both hands--the doc wouldn't do them both at the same time, dammit. My biceps and triceps look like someone let the air out of them and the skin on them looks like crepe paper. I'll be back at it shortly, but even working out to try to keep the muscle doesn't compare to ten miles of downwinder or a day of surfing.
I went thru the same exact thing about 5-6 years ago, my doc said "I can do them both at the same time if you'd like", I said "no thanks, my wife loves me, but not that much".
My money says your wife is relieved that you didn't doooo that.
Last time I heard the doctor say, "I can do them both at the same time if you'd like", I said "Great.  Go ahead."  It actually wasn't my doctor, though, it was my dog's vet.
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« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2017, 02:29:59 PM »
The slide down if you stop is terrifyingly steep. I've been out of the water for a little over a month after carpal tunnel surgery on both hands--the doc wouldn't do them both at the same time, dammit. My biceps and triceps look like someone let the air out of them and the skin on them looks like crepe paper. I'll be back at it shortly, but even working out to try to keep the muscle doesn't compare to ten miles of downwinder or a day of surfing.
I went thru the same exact thing about 5-6 years ago, my doc said "I can do them both at the same time if you'd like", I said "no thanks, my wife loves me, but not that much".
My money says your wife is relieved that you didn't doooo that.
Last time I heard the doctor say, "I can do them both at the same time if you'd like", I said "Great.  Go ahead."  It actually wasn't my doctor, though, it was my dog's vet.
Or maybe it was my old girlfriend's plastic surgeon.

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« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2017, 05:22:25 PM »
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« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2017, 05:44:31 PM »
I told my doc I had those japanese toilet thingies, a holdover from shoulder surgery. Washes your ass and dries it. He didn't care, wouldn't do it. Funny thing though, the one we have in our upstairs bathroom is very civilized and very smart. Senses when you sit down, heats the seat, warms the water, washes and dries, does a hell of a good job. Works for the ladies too. wireless remote with about ten butt washing options. I recommend that highly.

Downstairs in the powder room I have this brutal thing that just hoses your butt with cold water, Hits like a fire hose if you turn it up too high. When we have people over we always try to warn them not to touch that thing. If you're not sitting on it the spray goes chest high. Inevitably someone comes walking out of the bathroom with their shirt soaked.
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« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2017, 06:10:08 PM »
Just last night after a fairly long windsurfing session, my buddies and I were talking about what we are doing to our bodies (we're all in our 60's), by refusing to give up windsurfing (in the ocean/waves).  The thought process being, are we shortening our useful lives, mostly orthopedically, or lengthening them in the long run?  Are we too dumb to quit?  Are we in denial?
After a bit of going back and forth on the issue, we came to a consensus, FUCK IT!  Live for today, tomorrow will take care of itself, and besides, that's what Ibuprofen is for.

Hahaha! Good for you hanging in there with sailing. At one time, that was my number 1 watersport. Pretty much for the entire decade that I was in my 30's. Now, as 60 looms in a month or so, I go once or twice a year. I should have bought shares in Ibuprofen manufacturing.

I was never a great windsurfer but I was at least competent, hitting my jibes 95% of the time, able to do what I wanted to on a wave face without looking like a complete kook. Not anymore. My new once a year schedule of sailing has really had an effect (I went for almost an entire day, about a week ago). I spin out more when I'm going warp speed with ugly consequences. I miss my jibes 60% of the time now. I can't point upwind like I used to. I got pitched over the handlebars and onto the sail while hooked in at least 5 or 6 times over the course of sailing for a couple of hours. I even rigged my sail wrong, downhauling it way too much because I wanted to be sure it would depower some in the bigger gusts.  At least I can waterstart perfectly - I guess you never forget that. Good thing, or I'd have had to do a swim of shame.  But, talk about Ibuprofen! Hahaha! I had to take vitamin I for a couple of days following sailing last week. But, even in my prime, it used to beat me up pretty good.

In decent winds, on a wave board, there is nothing but 100%, giving it all the time. I love that about sailing. But, I would rather surf, downwind or sup surf. Those sports seem so much less intense and violent. And, you're not hooked in and strapped onto the gear. The day I went last, I was on my 85 liter wave board and lit up on a 4.7. So fun, but very intense.

I like that paddling and surfing give me a great workout without the unpredictable hammering that I get from windsurfing. I'm sure if I started going again, it would get better but it really does give your body a thrashing. I don't know where my passion for the sport went but I am extremely thankful that I am every bit as passionate about surfing and paddling as I ever was about windsurfing. All is not lost.

What's really cool, to me anyway, is how many older people are still windsurfing and doing very well at it. Going to the parking lot at Upper Kanaha on Maui is unreal. There are plenty of good sailors that are well into their 60's, 70's and even beyond that. Pretty inspiring.
Yeah well there is also this, but it makes me chuckle, then pause, then chuckle again, I have to.
It takes a quiver to do that.

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« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2017, 06:58:24 PM »
The slide down if you stop is terrifyingly steep. I've been out of the water for a little over a month after carpal tunnel surgery on both hands--the doc wouldn't do them both at the same time, dammit. My biceps and triceps look like someone let the air out of them and the skin on them looks like crepe paper. I'll be back at it shortly, but even working out to try to keep the muscle doesn't compare to ten miles of downwinder or a day of surfing.

True but don't expect any sympathy around here.  My 76 year pal went out with me with surfskis at Pier One.  Told him to stay inside so he sees me catch a bomb, goes out and gets creamed.  Boat is way inside.  I sprint out and grab his paddle so he doesn't have to swim with it.  Then got outta dodge and inside before the next set.  Junior is on the inside paddling his boat back out to him.  I don't want it to get back into the impact zone so I tell Junior, "He knows how to swim.  Let him swim."  They all thought that was some cold shit on my part.  But you know how it is. 

Anyway get back on ASAP and we'll see you in Nov.

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« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2017, 07:35:58 PM »
Weasels wake,  I am not buying how hard windsurfing is.  I think you're just gripping the boom too tight.  Remember it's just fingertip control.  One thing I can't figure out is where did all the women go?  On a good day awhile ago there would be lot's of women in the lineup.  Jan Baby, Kerry, Wendy, Renee, Nancy, Jan, Jannette, Susie, Barb, Patty, Ali, Terry, Debbie, Lori, Kelly, Katy, Kelly, and a few more.  Wish they were still around.  Karen also

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« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2017, 08:29:06 PM »
so I tell Junior, "He knows how to swim.  Let him swim."  They all thought that was some cold shit on my part.  But you know how it is. 

Gee. Where have I heard that before?
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« Reply #26 on: September 30, 2017, 10:46:49 PM »
Weasels wake,  I am not buying how hard windsurfing is.  I think you're just gripping the boom too tight.  Remember it's just fingertip control.  One thing I can't figure out is where did all the women go?  On a good day awhile ago there would be lot's of women in the lineup.  Jan Baby, Kerry, Wendy, Renee, Nancy, Jan, Jannette, Susie, Barb, Patty, Ali, Terry, Debbie, Lori, Kelly, Katy, Kelly, and a few more.  Wish they were still around.  Karen also
Wow, I'm impressed, you forgot Toni, two of them actually, but did you have to mention my ex?   :P   I traded up. 
Barb and one of the Tonies are the only ones I still see there, but kiting only, and Ali said she'd be back as soon as her mom goes off to her great reward.  Caserio has a new lady, she does both, I guess you haven't met her yet.
Great season this year, the kelp bed outside is very thick which makes the outside jibes smooth, even on our 4.2's which is what we used today, great for us old fucks.
It takes a quiver to do that.

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« Reply #27 on: October 01, 2017, 12:21:38 AM »
WW, that picture made me chuckle too. So damn true.

Classic HM quote also. "He knows how to swim. Let him swim." Laughing out loud as I read it.

PB, aren't you coming over in another month? You know you won't get any slack around here. I'll bet the lifeguards on the south side will be glad they can get their jet skis out again when we start downwinding over there with you. I don't think I've seen an good escort to Makena for a couple seasons now  ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #28 on: October 01, 2017, 09:46:06 AM »
I told my doc I had those japanese toilet thingies, a holdover from shoulder surgery. Washes your ass and dries it.

Hey Pono happy to hear you took my advice back then and got the TOTO toilet seat! I would not want to live without mine. Have them in both houses.

By the way, your timing on this surgery was excellent. You have missed almost nothing in terms of decent conditions for the past month plus. I had the same good timing in having my prostate removed at the end of August! I am also seeing a frightening level of muscle atrophy in such a short time. I am sure that age has something to do with that, as I am only a year behind you.

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« Reply #29 on: October 01, 2017, 09:58:51 AM »
You know you're getting old when instead of just wiping your butt, you need a drop cloth, a hose, a paint scraper and a test tube brush.
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