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Re: Tuttle box only? Consider deck reinforcement
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2017, 09:56:01 AM »
Here's a pic posted by Sam Pa'e, pumping or hitting the bottom or both? Not sure, but the weak spot became evident.

FWIW, Sam's foil looks pretty sun baked judging from the wings that have turned from bright red to dull UV pink...if continued, the structural integrity will be compromised...
I keep all of my toys out of the sun as much as possible...especially, expensive carbon toys...;-)

So far the deep Tuttle installation on my Hammer has held up great...
The forces  are far greater with the longer mast of the Horue wind foil and sail rig on a lake than with the GoFoil and a paddle on a wave...
I was a little concerned about the GoFoil holding up to the forces of the sail rig when I strapped it on and gave it a go...but, it held up fine...
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Re: Tuttle box only? Consider deck reinforcement
« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2017, 05:04:22 PM »
Hey guys how you guys doing I hope everybody's doing well and we'll have a great weekend happy Fourth of July to all. So I have been going through this thread and I have read through it. I would like to clarify a few things first off yes this was an equipment failure that was done on my behalf. Basically what happened was I laid carbon fiber on the bottom make some epoxy and fill the sides and the bottom and the top mixed with aerocell. In the process of it going off I guess the boys was a little bigger than anticipated which heated up the epoxy which caused a cavity alongside the walls all the tuttle box. I have been surfing with this board for at least 4 months with no indication of failure. So I had no pre-warning that any of this would have happened. Just bear with me that this has been my first tuttle box installation and the only way to learn from it if stuff like this was to happen. Let me clarify that although I am a team writer for Blue Planet Blue Planet had nothing to do with the installation of the box. They also have no association with the board that I'm using this boy was made 10 years ago by me and all I did was add stickers. I have talked with Alex Agera and he explained to me what happened and why it failed basically I did not glass the top of the box I rely upon the existing glass to be part of my structure. Had I went through the board I would have seen the cavities realize that the structure was not sound. Alexandra has a YouTube video showing how to install those boxes. I have learn from this mistake and I will rebuild this board. Also last but not least per the last thread of war dogs comet just to clarify it's not faded it's painted pink my signature colors. I hope this clarifies a lot and thank you very much for your injuries comments and suggestions. Aloha

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Re: Tuttle box only? Consider deck reinforcement
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2017, 06:04:19 PM »
Aloha Sam,
Good to know that you painted that foil pink and it wasn't UV damage...it looked ridden hard and put away wet...;-)
It's really great that the GoFoils come with nice covers...value added...

I've seen a number of DIY foil attachment nightmares already...so, I'm sold on the deep Tuttle attachment....
Gorilla Glue is great at filling voids...etc...and, definitely best for these boxes to be attached to the skin on both top and bottom...

My admonition to minimize UV exposure and nicks/scratches on carbon parts still stands...
I've seen/heard 100% carbon windsurf masts explode under tension in the hot sun...and, have had scores of carbon booms, masts, and extensions fail in less than desirable circumstances far offshore in big waves...anything that you can do to minimize or mitigate sun/heat exposure is good...

My red Brewer gun from the 70s is still red...
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Re: Tuttle box only? Consider deck reinforcement
« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2017, 06:29:40 PM »
Great to hear from you Wardog. Not sure if you remember but I think we met one time on Maui with Bill foot at his place in haiku.. I think Gorilla Glue is the way to go I'm going to try it

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Re: Tuttle box only? Consider deck reinforcement
« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2017, 06:36:44 PM »
This is how a Tuttle box should be installed. Alex Aguera and the gang at Go Foil are the best in the business.

Here's the link
https://youtu.be/i7PfoZW_Ivo
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Re: Tuttle box only? Consider deck reinforcement
« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2017, 08:06:58 PM »
Sam, good to have you on here and trust me, most of us are from the "try it and see" school.

Good of you to clarify that that wasn't one of Roberts boards or installs but that epoxy heat gets a lot of us at least once.

Thanks for the videos and sharing your knowledge and for leading the way on these things. I still use a handle like you started doing on every board of mine. Saved me a lot of trouble for sure.

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Re: Tuttle box only? Consider deck reinforcement
« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2017, 09:45:05 PM »
Sam, good to have you on here and trust me, most of us are from the "try it and see" school.

Good of you to clarify that that wasn't one of Roberts boards or installs but that epoxy heat gets a lot of us at least once.

Thanks for the videos and sharing your knowledge and for leading the way on these things. I still use a handle like you started doing on every board of mine. Saved me a lot of trouble for sure.

Mahalo Braddah.....I don't want anyone to get the wrong idea of products. You know very well I come from the back yard era board building. I'll try and if I fail it will only make a strong learner. I still use tail handles till this day.

Aloha.....Sam

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Re: Tuttle box only? Consider deck reinforcement
« Reply #23 on: July 01, 2017, 08:19:35 AM »
Great to hear from you Wardog. Not sure if you remember but I think we met one time on Maui with Bill foot at his place in haiku.. I think Gorilla Glue is the way to go I'm going to try it

Aloha Sam,
Great to hear from you too...I've been following your GoFoil SUP surfing experiences...
I have had more time on my wind foil...but, am always looking for places to get a sesh on my GoFoil...

I totally remember meeting you at Bill Foote's casa...that was 10 years ago...lots of fun and excitement talking about board designs...etc...and, how the sport of standup was starting to really take off...I also remember those yummy deviled eggs that Bill's ex-wifey, Sandy, made for that party...;-)
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