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Re: The fun of unlimited boards
« Reply #165 on: September 25, 2016, 04:30:18 PM »
Can't wait to hear your results. Don't fall on that meat cliever when it's retracted😬

How far are you intending your dagger board to protrude below the bottom in its final version? .... and what kind of area will be presented?

Thanks for sharing the video.👍🏻

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Re: The fun of unlimited boards
« Reply #166 on: September 28, 2016, 05:18:08 AM »
When retracted, it will be straped on the deck.

I'm waiting for the wind to try different lengths, from 8cm to 20cm, the chord being 6.5 cm (and the area between 50 and 130 cm2 / 8 and 20 in2)


(on the right, river and downwind fins)
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Re: The fun of unlimited boards
« Reply #167 on: September 28, 2016, 04:15:35 PM »
Someone has been busy.

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Re: The fun of unlimited boards
« Reply #168 on: September 29, 2016, 01:27:44 PM »
I love the door in the background: "that's French, and from the South" - with plenty of history.
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Re: The fun of unlimited boards
« Reply #169 on: September 29, 2016, 01:39:59 PM »
Photofr,

Speaking of unlimited boards, how does the Ace GT go upwind?

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Re: The fun of unlimited boards
« Reply #170 on: September 29, 2016, 02:22:03 PM »
I sold my GT quite a while back, but I can tell you what I liked and didn't like about it:

PROS
Downwind: picking up any odd bump any time anywhere.
Upwind: up there with some of the best I have ever tried as far as upwind speed.
Tons of room for photo equipment.
Tons of extra stability.
It was even faster on flatwater than my flat water specific 12'6 board. 

CONS
Heavy: it was about 14 kilos and felt like 22.
Lacking a rudder (or at least one PaddleSpot magic blades.

A board like that, in my opinion, should be 8 to 10 kilos, including a rudder system - and at that weight, I would have kept it and cherished it.

My 17'6x23 is still the fastest board upwind I have ever been on; I just have to make sure that it totally stay upwind. I am putting a rudder on next month.


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Re: The fun of unlimited boards
« Reply #171 on: September 29, 2016, 11:38:02 PM »
I love the door in the background: "that's French, and from the South" - with plenty of history.

The last chapter being the bolt I just added. The baby twins are now toddlers, and the tool shed (called "cafoutche" in Marseille) is one of their main targets.


 
My 17'6x23 is still the fastest board upwind I have ever been on; I just have to make sure that it totally stay upwind. I am putting a rudder on next month.

Forget the rudder to stay upwind, it can't work if you don't have a ventral fin or a daggerboard to keep the bow on track. The easyest would be to add a fcs fin box, like I did on the 14' shark...

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Re: The fun of unlimited boards
« Reply #172 on: September 30, 2016, 01:33:33 AM »
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Re: The fun of unlimited boards
« Reply #173 on: September 30, 2016, 10:08:40 AM »
I sold my GT quite a while back, but I can tell you what I liked and didn't like about it:

PROS
Downwind: picking up any odd bump any time anywhere.
Upwind: up there with some of the best I have ever tried as far as upwind speed.
Tons of room for photo equipment.
Tons of extra stability.
It was even faster on flatwater than my flat water specific 12'6 board. 

CONS
Heavy: it was about 14 kilos and felt like 22.
Lacking a rudder (or at least one PaddleSpot magic blades.

A board like that, in my opinion, should be 8 to 10 kilos, including a rudder system - and at that weight, I would have kept it and cherished it.

My 17'6x23 is still the fastest board upwind I have ever been on; I just have to make sure that it totally stay upwind. I am putting a rudder on next month.

So, did you find the Ace to be a handful in quartering swell and crosswinds then? Any paddlers in the 200 pound+ range have any insight on the Ace unlimited? These boards are rare but a couple have come up for sale used on the coast and i've been contemplating getting one. I have the room now, but might not if I move. It would be interesting if SB did another unlimited with a bit less of a dug out. One used Ace GT I checked out online had tie downs on the inside of the rails, which makes sense for extended tours and expedition paddling. The centre of gravity and overall balance would be better putting your gear inside, rather than completely front loading the nose.

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Re: The fun of unlimited boards
« Reply #174 on: September 30, 2016, 10:45:53 AM »
The fact that the tail sits quite high above water actually helps with side wind. I was once taking photos in the middle of the ocean, and when it was time to head on back to shore with a strong side wind, I merely placed my camera equipment (huge bag) in the bag... to let the wind catch it and "balance" windage. It worked like a charm.

Upwind: no problem. It's loud though when it gets rough.
Glide for touring: seriously excels.
Current tie-downs: pretty much useless. I created my own (too simple).
Dug out area: perfect depth. I'd actually extend the dug out area more on the front, for easier access to my camera bag.

There are now two GT in France:
My old one went to a monster of a man. When he paddles the GT, he looks like me on a 12'6.
The other one went to someone I know who is about 90 kilos - but he's selling it (he had someone make him a custom board).

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Re: The fun of unlimited boards
« Reply #175 on: October 17, 2016, 11:41:13 AM »
The fun of ROUNDED unlimited boards  ;D



 
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Re: The fun of unlimited boards
« Reply #176 on: October 17, 2016, 11:28:14 PM »
Glide like no other..... ;)

But wait! I bet you're deep in thought about the next... redesigned unlimited........?
It's not overhead to me!
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Re: The fun of unlimited boards
« Reply #177 on: October 24, 2016, 01:27:50 PM »
But wait! I bet you're deep in thought about the next... redesigned unlimited........?

Not yet. I didn't open Shape3D for a couple of months. This is the 4th board (1st UL)  I make, and I totally love this one. Really fast and polyvalent, from flat conditions to 20 knots downwind.

Maybe I'll try to design variations on the same theme : a narrower, longer and lighter flatwater version,  and a more "downwind oriented" one.  But I'm expecting stability curves features in a future version of S3d (Thomas, if you read this post ;-) )
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Re: The fun of unlimited boards
« Reply #178 on: October 30, 2016, 07:05:35 AM »
So now OneSup (Paul and Angie Jacksons company) and Blue Planet are joining the growing interest in Unlimited production boards, joining SIC, Starboard and NSP/DC.   Things are certainly looking up for those of us who realize the advantages of Unlimiteds.
It ain't over until the fat board sinks....

 


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