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Ace look-a-likes?

Started by Muskoka SUP, May 28, 2013, 07:18:54 PM

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Was it the 14 x 26" carbon shown here?  Or was it a production DC (as opposed to NSP-DC)
It ain't over until the fat board sinks....

Fog City Rider

NSP is seriously stepping their game up, dude...

Any word on prices?



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windup

Quote from: Fog City Rider on May 30, 2013, 08:25:56 PM
NSP is seriously stepping their game up, dude...

Any word on prices?



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We have been given the price in Aus.
So someone should know.

Muskoka SUP

I like how they show the rocker line - not many companies brochures have a side view.  IMO it's the most important one. 

DS
It ain't over until the fat board sinks....

Chilly

I'm guessing that the NSP blue brush carbon will be around $2500.
I would love to demo one  ;D

JP Australia is also coming out with a cool race board, but I have only seen pictures of it on Seabreeze. The orange one  :o
http://www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/Review/NEW-JP-Raceboards-hot-off-the-mould/
NSP 2016 12'6 Surf Race Pro

Boludo

I'm impressed with NSP boards. I want to try one.

Fog City Rider

Wow those JPs look like beauties too. Looks like more and more brands are committing to the Starboard/Brian S. style noses.  I saw a Speedboard the other day and it also had an up-curved, water and air shedding nose.



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Kaihoe

Quote from: Argosi on May 30, 2013, 06:48:37 PM
Quote from: Kaihoe on May 30, 2013, 01:00:23 PM
Quote from: Kieranrsup on May 29, 2013, 03:44:35 AM
I was lucky enough to get a quick paddle on both of Travis boards at the NSW state titles two weeks ago. Alain terquetil, Dale Chapman and travis were super friendly and willing to chat about the boards that travis took to europe. The 14' in the pic feels very fast but at 24.5"(I think) and having a very rolled bottom is way beyond my skills. Looks a bit like the Ace in the pics but in reality it has a very different shape, profile and rocker.
The 12'6" felt amazing and picked up a couple of tiny bumps even with me on it.
I was able to try some of Dales own shapes too and I was so impressed with them and after talking to those guys I'm seriously considering a custom 14' for DW.
I haven't been fortunate enough to see the new falcons yet but I have heard that it is very, very good.

I've paddled a 26" production prototype based on the Travis board, back to back aginst my 25" ACE. They are very different boards. The DC is a very nice board and catches the reLly small runners better than an ACE, you can also step back in it prorperly

If the 26" DC prototype catches small bumps better than the 25" Ace, that would be extremely impressive - especially for a wider board. So far I've found the Ace catches small bumps better than any other board I've tried. That DC must be amazing. I'm now paddling a 14'x23.5" Ace and it catches bumps even better than the 25" Ace.



Argosi

Yes I was stunned, I swapped boards halfway through a flat paddle and it was catching the little bumps that I was struggleing to get on the ACE.  It maybe because the waterline is a fraction longer with it's flatter rocker at the front. I'm not sure whether it's faster than the ACE but it's not far off. I'm seriously thinking about get one to complement the ACE....  ;D or is it just I want another toy

Muskoka

I'm not sure what the plan is for this board. It's one DC brought over when he came to our nationals in Feb


DavidJohn

The new NSP moto is.. From your first board to first place.

We will see the new NSP race boards here in Oz about the end of July.

DJ

Easy Rider

Connor is on a new Brian S. prototype.
Easy Rider is the name of my store in Edmonton, AB, Canada.
My name is Warren Currie . . . and we SUP Surf indoors . . . in a shopping mall!

CMC

#25
The board Travis has in the pic above is identical but 1/2 inch narrower than the board he won both The Doctor and the King of the Harbour race, the doctor board has the same style deck as the NSPs above.  Both 14' boards are inspired by Outrigger and Surf Ski design.  The complete opposite to an Ace ie round not concave, very different rocker.  They are pro versions of the boards in the pics above.  His race quiver is the 12'6 he beat Connor on last week and 2 x 14's, 14 x 25 low rails and 14 x 24.5 high rails. (The board he is with above). The narrow board is for light ocean or flat water, the wider one will handle anything, they have the same hull but different rails around the deck.

The board with the well deck in the pic is 24.5 inches wide and rather than a sunken deck with a cutaway rail following the deck the rail line stays high creating the well.  On these boards he has both set his PB flatwater speeds and also paddled very fast in 35-40 knots and huge seas downwind.   It's the trick with DC designs that where the boards have evolved from has an incredibly varied mix of conditions, for a board to be successful here it has to be both fast in the flats and the bumps.

Travis now has the board in Germany at the Lost Mills race on a lake,  before he left he won the NSW Titles on it in the ocean....    Let's see how he goes today in the 18km race.  Good luck Travis.

CMC

To follow this post, Travis finished 3rd to an epic performance by Eric Terrien and Connor Baxter on the 14 x 24.5.

In a nutshell he won the NSW titles a downwind ocean race and 2 weeks later carried the same board to Germany and raced the same board in a freshwater lake over 16000km away to take 3rd.  He is so stoked!

Silverboarder25

Along with all the other Ace look-a-likes, there's those new fanatics too! Seems there's lots trying out that nose idea....

yugi

Quote from: Argosi on May 30, 2013, 06:48:37 PM... I'm now paddling a 14'x23.5" Ace and it catches bumps even better than the 25" Ace.

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So why does a narrow board pick up bumps better? Normally a wider board planes quicker. Isn't picking up a bump akin to planing?

Muskoka SUP

 It's narrower, so it accelerates faster  (less frontal areal - board width is a factor) and in the case of both ACE's, the tails are very similar (pin) in volume - which is how they catch the glide/bump initially.  If the paddler is skilled enough balance-wise, then the 23 will pick up glides more easily.  Though the extra mass of the larger volume 25" board would theoretically maintain it's glide longer.

All this really depends on the weight/balance/skill etc of the paddler.  Horses for courses.

BTW, Yugi, just go faster.   ;)


It ain't over until the fat board sinks....