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Big Island SIC Fun!
« on: February 18, 2013, 06:34:34 PM »
We don't often have ideal downwind conditions, but this weekend was an exception.  Short period swell, so the 17 footers do a lot of poking.  My friends 12 fit nicely, I think a 14 would of been awesome! Did two runs. Sorry for the long videos, hard to just take 3 minutes from an hour of footage. Praying for more wind in the weeks to come! BTW, the Bullet V2 is pretty awesome!




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Re: Big Island SIC Fun!
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2013, 09:21:48 PM »
Takeo, Great vids.. You did a good job of keeping the others in your sites and it made for a better vid.  Thanks

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Re: Big Island SIC Fun!
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2013, 09:26:33 PM »
Thanks Bill,
During the first video, I was trying to keep people close.  It was hard because I had a friend behind me and one to the right.  Then there was the two to the left who stayed together, but they are more experienced than me so I had to play catch-up.

The second video was more about me enjoying the run and not have to worry about camera shot.  We don't get juicy stuff like this often, so when we get it, we gotta enjoy it.  Drove from Hilo to Puako, but so worth it!  We were all on a downwind high! Stoked and wanted to share!

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Re: Big Island SIC Fun!
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2013, 09:49:23 PM »
I LOVE my V2, to an almost unhealthy degree. It's tricky keeping the nose from poking, and I've had some deep dives, with water rushing past my shins, but DAMN is it good. Fast, very responsive, and teaches you how to read water. That or perhaps how to dive off your board when it stops dead.

My F16 fits the swells better, and feels like a little Lotus Elise while the Bullet V2 is pure Ferrari. Doesn't dart through the twisties as well as the Lotus, but it's magic in the sweepers.
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Re: Big Island SIC Fun!
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2013, 09:55:26 PM »
great capture Takeo! I'm just glad you had FUN! downwind with friends is always better!!!!

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Re: Big Island SIC Fun!
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2013, 09:57:31 PM »
Other than less rocker in the nose and a little wider what do you attribute the better gliding abilities of the V2 to? Has the bottom changed ? Volume in a different area of the board ?

I would love to see some DJ type pics of the V2. Other than seeing it at a race here in Hawaii Kai from a far and these Gopro vids I have not seen the board up close.

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Re: Big Island SIC Fun!
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2013, 10:13:47 PM »
Other than less rocker in the nose and a little wider what do you attribute the better gliding abilities of the V2 to? Has the bottom changed ? Volume in a different area of the board ?

I would love to see some DJ type pics of the V2. Other than seeing it at a race here in Hawaii Kai from a far and these Gopro vids I have not seen the board up close.

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Here's SIC's own statement:

Less effort to get into bumps
Better ability to connect bumps
Longer glide
Same top end
V2 more stable
About 1 1/4" wider (now 28")
Widest point moved forward
Same Length  (17'4")
Same Hollow molded construction
Same Weight (approx 30 lbs)
Volume moved forward and out to the Rails
Larger EVA deck area
Improved Graphic Options

From comparing to the V1 side-by-side, the V2's volume is moved forward, the nose area is full.  It makes the V1 nose looks small.  The rails are beefier, so yes, the volume is moved to the rails.  The deck area seams a bit bigger.  With the increased width, it is much more stable, especially in the rough, chop, and disorganized stuff.  I don't remember if there are bottom changes, maybe Mark discussed it in one of Evan's vids. 

The lower rocker is obvious, and makes for more challenge keeping it from poking.  If you watch my vids, you'll see the nose poke quite a bit.  It's not as forgiving compared to the Bullet or F16V2 with the nose poking, but the board is very controllable and stable, which for me, is a major plus.  Because I'm comfortable on the board, I'm more relaxed, and able to focus on the water, steering, and my paddling.  I know some V2 former owners sold because they didn't like how the nose poked on the Hawaii Kai run. 

The Bullet V1 is no sloth, it's still a great board and wish I could own both.  I think the V1 might be a bit quicker in some situations because of the more narrow profile, even with it's bigger rocker.  In a perfect world, I'd have one of each SIC board to be honest, and that's no exaggeration.


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Re: Big Island SIC Fun!
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2013, 11:03:11 PM »
Great video's Takeo. Thanks for posting!!
The 2nd vid looked a lot windier/bumpier--how windy and how big were the swells. I know the camera flattens out the looks of the swells.

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Re: Big Island SIC Fun!
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2013, 01:11:21 PM »
I LOVE my V2, to an almost unhealthy degree. It's tricky keeping the nose from poking, and I've had some deep dives, with water rushing past my shins, but DAMN is it good. Fast, very responsive, and teaches you how to read water. That or perhaps how to dive off your board when it stops dead.

My F16 fits the swells better, and feels like a little Lotus Elise while the Bullet V2 is pure Ferrari. Doesn't dart through the twisties as well as the Lotus, but it's magic in the sweepers.

Bill,

I love my Bullet V2 also! You can kinda see in the video of the dives the nose was making and on one of my falls, it stopped dead.  This was only my 2nd and 3rd time in real downwind with this board, so still getting use to it, but I really loved it's predictability.  I didn't feel out of control, even in the strong winds. It also wants to take up and go, which is why I had those 2 banana peel type falls.  A swell would come, the board wanted to go, but the driver wasn't ready, funny stuff!

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Re: Big Island SIC Fun!
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2013, 01:28:38 PM »
Great video's Takeo. Thanks for posting!!
The 2nd vid looked a lot windier/bumpier--how windy and how big were the swells. I know the camera flattens out the looks of the swells.



Wind gauges showed just under 40 on the first run, and over 40 on the second run with gusts up to 50.  When we got out after the second run, the wind increased even more, bordering dangerous.  When we saw the whales breaching in our path, we decided to play it smart and call it a day.  I don't know how big the swells were.  In some of my video shots, my friends in front of me disappeared.  Big Island swells can get big, so this felt on the smaller side but the wind was pretty intense.  The texture was probably the best we have had but it's still a wild ride.  Rudderless boards would have it's challenges for sure.

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Re: Big Island SIC Fun!
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2013, 01:31:14 PM »
BTW, that's JF808 out in front on both videos on his production Bullet.  Thanks Jeff for letting us play in your backyard! Let's go again soon!

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Re: Big Island SIC Fun!
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2013, 07:17:47 PM »
I had PBills' V2 and my V1 upside down next to each other on the sand.  Notable is how much more wrapped the rails are on the V2.  So even though it's wider from the very widest points, the break on the bottom is much farther around and looks just as narrow from that edge to the other edge on the bottom.

More rounded rails seem to behave better.  Also notable was how much more the tail is pulled in.  Increased volume is also good.  It's improved PBills' paddling by leaps.

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Re: Big Island SIC Fun!
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2013, 10:25:18 PM »
I had PBills' V2 and my V1 upside down next to each other on the sand.  Notable is how much more wrapped the rails are on the V2.  So even though it's wider from the very widest points, the break on the bottom is much farther around and looks just as narrow from that edge to the other edge on the bottom.

More rounded rails seem to behave better.  Also notable was how much more the tail is pulled in.  Increased volume is also good.  It's improved PBills' paddling by leaps.

Thanks Bill for that comparison.  We had my board stacked on a V1 but didn't do much measurement comparison.  I wonder how the pulled in tail helps in downwind.  You are right about the rounded rails, they definitely behave better when swells hit you from various direction. 

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Re: Big Island SIC Fun!
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2013, 04:03:50 AM »
Great vids.. Great conditions..  :D

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Re: Big Island SIC Fun!
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2013, 11:27:24 AM »
I had PBills' V2 and my V1 upside down next to each other on the sand.  Notable is how much more wrapped the rails are on the V2.  So even though it's wider from the very widest points, the break on the bottom is much farther around and looks just as narrow from that edge to the other edge on the bottom.

More rounded rails seem to behave better.  Also notable was how much more the tail is pulled in.  Increased volume is also good.  It's improved PBills' paddling by leaps.

Thanks Bill for that comparison.  We had my board stacked on a V1 but didn't do much measurement comparison.  I wonder how the pulled in tail helps in downwind.  You are right about the rounded rails, they definitely behave better when swells hit you from various direction. 
I think the pulled in tail on the V2 allows it to 'surf' better.  Some days my V1 surf well but others it feels like a runaway train... eventually overreacting and 'kicking -out ' of the swell.  Speed is a precious commodity.  Once you have it, you never want to let it go back to base line, because that's where the work begins again.

 


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