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Re: New Baby: 7'7x27"
« Reply #105 on: March 19, 2013, 06:26:03 AM »
CS, that last pic is sick.  What's that in the water behind you, kelp?

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Re: New Baby: 7'7x27"
« Reply #106 on: March 20, 2013, 10:28:21 PM »
14, what's your setup?

7-7 has the 140 center and 4.5 sides.

8-0 has 140 or 170 center and PC3 sides (it had 4.5's until I smacked a rock on the very first session and took one out)

Now, if anyone can explain the difference between 4.5", PC3 and PC5 to me, that would be splendid, because looking at the FCS site just makes my head spin.
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Re: New Baby: 7'7x27"
« Reply #107 on: March 21, 2013, 12:41:47 AM »
just thought i would post for those of you on the 7'7, after speaking with all the guys in peru on the 7'4 justin Holland sean pointer ect who were on the 7'4 they said that there was actually very little difference stability and balance wise between the 7'7 and the 7'4. i didn't get the chance to try it but a few friends did and they liked it but it was pretty glassy out. just thought i would pass on the info

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Re: New Baby: 7'7x27"
« Reply #108 on: March 22, 2013, 10:56:51 AM »
Ah but those guys are lightweights so it is more about size in terms of surface area providing stability since the board is better than neutrally buoyant for them. CS and I are heavyweights between 185-190, so at 80L even if you kept that thing moving we'd be probably knee deep at best which would make for very high resistance paddling and difficult wave catching, but would look pretty funny. Still, it would be fun to try.
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Re: New Baby: 7'7x27"
« Reply #109 on: March 22, 2013, 11:12:49 AM »
Ah but those guys are lightweights so it is more about size in terms of surface area providing stability since the board is better than neutrally buoyant for them. CS and I are heavyweights between 185-190, so at 80L even if you kept that thing moving we'd be probably knee deep at best which would make for very high resistance paddling and difficult wave catching, but would look pretty funny. Still, it would be fun to try.

fair enough yes justin said he was 70kg i believe, would definitely be worth trying if you can get the chance at present the in not one anywhere in the uk so i may well shape something myself just to have a go and to keep pushing myself.

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Re: New Baby: 7'7x27"
« Reply #110 on: March 27, 2013, 01:06:30 PM »
And what numbers would you give for the same breakdown for someone that weighs about 200 please?


yep 180lbs = 81.5 kg
add ~ 10kg of board + paddle => total weight nearly 92kg
It is thus logical that you need at least 92 liters flotation (salt water giving you a little more room).
Realistically you should add 10 liters for comfort in glassy conditions: 102 liters
20 liters for choppy conditions: 112 liters
30 liters for heavy water movements: 122 liters
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Pluto Platter: 7-10 x 29.25 x 4.25 x 114.5 liters

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Re: New Baby: 7'7x27"
« Reply #111 on: March 28, 2013, 12:05:18 AM »
I think this is next year's model.
Specs unknown.



First one I saw had no handle.
No dims listed on the tail.
Looks tiny, and fun.
Pointed nose and not as wide fore of the handle like current Pro line.

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Re: New Baby: 7'7x27"
« Reply #112 on: March 28, 2013, 04:57:06 AM »
And what numbers would you give for the same breakdown for someone that weighs about 200 please?


yep 180lbs = 81.5 kg
add ~ 10kg of board + paddle => total weight nearly 92kg
It is thus logical that you need at least 92 liters flotation (salt water giving you a little more room).
Realistically you should add 10 liters for comfort in glassy conditions: 102 liters
20 liters for choppy conditions: 112 liters
30 liters for heavy water movements: 122 liters
...
Just plug your weight in in KG's. 200 lbs =90.7 KG's
+10 then + conds (10, 20 or 30)

PS. We need a report on how you like your new board!!!  The S2/3/4...
« Last Edit: March 28, 2013, 05:01:02 AM by Fishman »
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Re: New Baby: 7'7x27"
« Reply #113 on: March 28, 2013, 03:51:28 PM »
Thanks. I think my new S2/3/4 board is too wide for me and especially in the tail. Its fine paddling but its too corky on a wave to bury the rail in a bottom turn the way I like and then come off the top with my feet in the same place as they were in the bottom turn (which is the only way to do that kind of maneuver!). I realize this stuff is based on individual style because this same board with someone else might be perfect for them. I'm thinking the only way I can get what I need for a wave sup will be with an asymetric board with a drawn out outline and rounded pintail on the frontside rail and a fuller shorter outline for the backside rail ending with a diamond tail. I haven't decided yet but I'm thinking of shaping and glassing my own board, and if I do, it will be the first board I've built in many years.


And what numbers would you give for the same breakdown for someone that weighs about 200 please?


yep 180lbs = 81.5 kg
add ~ 10kg of board + paddle => total weight nearly 92kg
It is thus logical that you need at least 92 liters flotation (salt water giving you a little more room).
Realistically you should add 10 liters for comfort in glassy conditions: 102 liters
20 liters for choppy conditions: 112 liters
30 liters for heavy water movements: 122 liters
...
Just plug your weight in in KG's. 200 lbs =90.7 KG's
+10 then + conds (10, 20 or 30)

PS. We need a report on how you like your new board!!!  The S2/3/4...
Pluto Platter: 7-10 x 29.25 x 4.25 x 114.5 liters

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Re: New Baby: 7'7x27"
« Reply #114 on: March 28, 2013, 04:55:33 PM »
Great spring time head high session today out Long Beach way... nice to get back on the board without booties or gloves and in some warm sun. This board is so fun in crappy conditions, but just stupid fun in proper conditions.
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Re: New Baby: 7'7x27"
« Reply #115 on: March 30, 2013, 05:53:16 PM »
14, this the current fun setup on the 8'0".



4.7's
PC-5 center

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Re: New Baby: 7'7x27"
« Reply #116 on: March 31, 2013, 11:04:45 PM »
I dragged my 8-0 around with me all weekend just in case, and it sat there collecting dust. One thing I did notice though is that it is lighter dry compared to the 7-7 after the OAM pad has soaked up water sessioning. Haha.

I love the 140 on the back of the 7-7, I wonder if a PC-5 would feel much different.
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Re: New Baby: 7'7x27"
« Reply #117 on: April 04, 2013, 09:26:30 PM »
as someone who has an 2012 8'0"...what the cost in stability of going to the 7'7"?

supposedly the flatter deck helps, so would you say they are equally stable?

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Re: New Baby: 7'7x27"
« Reply #118 on: April 07, 2013, 12:49:59 PM »
I've been on both the 2012 and 2013 7-7, as well as own the 2012 8-0 and 7-7.

What you lose in stability from the volume drop in the 2013 7-7 you gain in stability from the flatter deck. Vice versa for the 2012 only the other way around. So basically I would say they are they same. That said, the curved deck of the 2012 makes it a bit more lively, but it also makes it more tippy if you are just paddling. If you are 185 lbs like me I'd say the added volume is more beneficial to the flatter deck since I have no problem sinking the rails. If you are lighter, you probably want less volume in general.

Stability compared to the 8-0 is initially a HUGE difference, but that difference quickly erodes after a few sessions on the board. Now I go out in 15 knots on the 7-7 with very little issues (not saying it is fun though!). The main thing is at my weight you need to keep the board moving unless it is glass, otherwise it starts to sink and move around on you like when you sink a kickboard at the pool and it wants to shoot out.

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