The presidential political thread

[Ucycle]

he was just help Misty getting some sand out of her ass.  I saying relax President is better than a stress out one, you make better judgment.  Either it is golfing, bushing sand off a pro female beach volleyball's ass or jus good old bottle of Jack, is fine by me.

[SlatchJim]

SlatchJim, here's the problem... you would slash the deficit AND pursue energy independence.

Spookini, I think you may have missed the part where I inferred that I realized that my methods of fixing the problem are completely against our own laws.  I could do both...I assure you, but I couldn't do both legally.  

I think I'll just go outside and polish the 'Grand Torino' and cuss at the neighbors...  

[Kevin]

I just hope I have enough free time one day to golf as much as Obama does.  100 rounds of golf in 3/12 years. 

Twice a month.

Its more than that.  That was at the 3 1/2 year mark.  Usually when you are failing at something, as president or any job you put your nose to the grindstone and you put the leisure activities on hold. 


 

  Approximately half the country is Democrats and the other half Republicans.  It's obvious who is what.

Political threads are a waste of time and serve no useful purpose on a non-political forum such as this one.  I'm sorry I participated.

[stoneaxe]

Unfortunately i think this thread in just a few pages illustrates the biggest problem we have as a country. The polarization devolves to pointing out faults, name calling, and sarcasm. No suggestions for middle ground or bartering this for that. When GW was in the WH the left screamed about the time spent at the ranch, with BO in office the right screams about golf. Do you really think the President needs to be in his office to be involved and engaged? It's a dumb argument on both sides. We have little to no concern for compromise or solutions....just maintaining power and getting everything our way...whichever way that happens to be.

A lot of issues could be simplified and progress made towards some kind of solution if we could learn to negotiate.

Both parties suck, and the far left and far right should be rounded up and placed on a deserted island to kill each other off.

[SUPlime]

I liked everyone more before I read this thread.

[Weasels wake]

SlatchJim, here's the problem... you would slash the deficit AND pursue energy independence.

Spookini, I think you may have missed the part where I inferred that I realized that my methods of fixing the problem are completely against our own laws.  I could do both...I assure you, but I couldn't do both legally.  

I think I'll just go outside and polish the 'Grand Torino' and cuss at the neighbors...  

I'd like to see all subsidies to all forms of energy production eliminated, all of them, even for oil, no more picking winners and loosers.  Just let the market forces steer us in the direction of the energy source that can make a profit.  Profit drives creativity much better than subsidies ever could, just ask Solyndra.
The consumer would be the winner in the end, competition and creativity always brings down prices.

[Weasels wake]

Oh boy....will this thread be the one to dethrone ponobills kenalu paddle thread?  Go Dems..at least they are part human!  

Naa, Pono's paddles will last far longer than the presidentual elections will.  Hell, if not broken, they even have a longer life span than either of the candidates.

[SoCalSupper]

Oh boy....will this thread be the one to dethrone ponobills kenalu paddle thread?  Go Dems..at least they are part human! 

Nothing like the political thread to kill a good BOP buzz-

really Free?-see this is the kind of stuff this thread stirs up-Free has never met me nor have i met him-but he insinuates that repubs are half human-ok, whatever-but kind of a cheap shot Free! -i wish no ill will towards Free-i assume he is half human even though hes a dem,if hes not i can see by his participation on the forum that he at least has human hands to type- he hates Bush-i hate Obama-blah blah blah-we probably have lots of fundamental differences but in the end we both do what we feel fits our beliefs and then we live with the results of the election and the sun continues to rise and set. I would surf with Free any day of the week, his political leanings have zero bearing on my life, nor mine to his.
Vote your conscience and beliefs and then go surf,
 Hooray Surfing!, it makes Democracy slightly less insufferable...
I like everyone the same before and after i read this thread.
This statement was approved and paid for the SoCalSupper Super PAC with major contributions from Vans-Infinity-The Pacific Ocean and other non GMA's...

[pdxmike]

National politics tends to bring out the us-vs.-them mentality--like a sports rivalry.  But people with opposing views often have similar underlying motivations.

I just was involved in a local issue here that became political (well, we caused it to become political on purpose).  In the end, we had a coalition of people agreeing on the solution. My main ally was a very liberal (even for Portland) "professional troublemaker" neighbor, but one of the events that most helped our cause was me getting interviewed on local radio by a conservative political talk-show host who also has a national show.  With the local stuff, you can go beyond the surface differences pretty quickly.

[Admin]

Naa, Pono's paddles will last far longer than the presidentual elections will.  Hell, if not broken, they even have a longer life span than either of the candidates.

Even if broken, their half life is longer.

[feet]

Check out the youtube link below.  It is a mashup of modern attack ads and the words of John Adams and Thomas Jefferson in the 1800 presidental race.

Election of 1800 Attack ads


A NY Times article about the same election:

http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/27/is-this-the-nastiest-election-ever/

More about positive/negative political ads:

http://www.journalism.org/analysis_report/2012_campaign_character_narratives

[lucabrasi]

I liked everyone more before I read this thread.

That's really funny although I am not certain you meant it to be.

I really think that at the end.......or at the root......we all want (those who "get it"  not......dummies or...savages who have nothing to back up their opinions and just go along for following sake) the same things but just get caught up in the ridiculous....political/government process of which we have no choice but to deal with in more ways than we want to admit or know as it is extremely scary how much it involves everything when you break it all down. One side is more this.......the other more that....I really think we all want...that middle common sense ground and agree on the same basic principles. The whole thing it seems is just a runaway train.
An example may be: I have no problem, nor do I think anyone else really has an issue giving some of our tax money to someone truly down on their luck to help get them going again...even if it takes a year or two...but to give it to someone....inner cities or trailer trash....they are all over.....possibly 3rd or 4th generation...who thinks they are entitled to that....nope.
 
Should someone start a thread on God or religion?

[freetobeme]

Oh boy....will this thread be the one to dethrone ponobills kenalu paddle thread?  Go Dems..at least they are part human!  

Nothing like the political thread to kill a good BOP buzz-

really Free?-see this is the kind of stuff this thread stirs up-Free has never met me nor have i met him-but he insinuates that repubs are half human-ok, whatever-but kind of a cheap shot Free! -i wish no ill will towards Free-i assume he is half human even though hes a dem,if hes not i can see by his participation on the forum that he at least has human hands to type- he hates Bush-i hate Obama-blah blah blah-we probably have lots of fundamental differences but in the end we both do what we feel fits our beliefs and then we live with the results of the election and the sun continues to rise and set. I would surf with Free any day of the week, his political leanings have zero bearing on my life, nor mine to his.
Vote your conscience and beliefs and then go surf,
 Hooray Surfing!, it makes Democracy slightly less insufferable...
I like everyone the same before and after i read this thread.
This statement was approved and paid for the SoCalSupper Super PAC with major contributions from Vans-Infinity-The Pacific Ocean and other non GMA's...

i think my statement correctly reads and reveals that imo Dems are half humans thus Repubs imo are less than half….i dont know maybe 38.43333% human .

YES, i do think Dems have more compassion (being the humanistic trait) in general, but still not nearly enough for my liking.
 
Its part personal belief and part joke, not a cheap shot. anyway, it's really in reference to ALL the scumbag spineless cyborg politicians….NOT us citizens.    

peace, love & epic waves






 







 

[Glider]

This guy pretty much soums it up !


It's a Miracle!!!!!!!!!!!! I like the way this guy just explains things; no ranting nor raving, no harsh language, just reporting the Facts that the other Media sources seem to forget!!!
http://www.youtube.com/embed/QXEoQJ7ZMZs
 

 
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Quit trashing President Obama's accomplishments.
> >
> > He has done more than any other President before him.
> >
> > He has an impressive list of accomplishments:
> >
> >
> >
> > First President to apply for college aid as a foreign student, then deny
> > he was a foreigner.
> >
> > First President to have a social security number from a state he has
> > never lived in.
> >
> > First President to preside over a cut to the credit-rating of the United
> > States> >
> >
> > First President to be held in contempt of court for illegally obstructing
> > oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico . >
> >
> > First President to require all Americans to purchase a product from a
> > third party.> >
> >
> > First President to spend a trillion dollars on 'shovel-ready' jobs when
> > there was no such thing as 'shovel-ready' jobs.
> >
> > First President to abrogate bankruptcy law to turn over control of
> > companies to his union supporters.
> >
> > First President to by-pass Congress and implement the Dream Act through
> > executive fiat.
> >
> > First President to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the
> > deportation of illegal immigrants across the U.S. , including those
> > with criminal convictions.
> >
> > First President to demand a company hand-over $20 billion to one of his
> > political appointees.
> >
> > First President to tell a CEO of a major corporation (Chrysler) to
> > resign.
> >
> > First President to terminate America 's ability to put a man in space.
> >
> > First President to cancel the National Day of Prayer and to say that
> > America is no longer a Christian nation.
> >
> > First President to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being
> > present.
> >
> > First President to arbitrarily declare an existing law unconstitutional
> > and refuse to enforce it.
> >
> > First President to threaten insurance companies if they publicly
> > spoke-out on the reasons for their rate increases.
> >
> > First President to tell a major manufacturing company in which state it
> > is allowed to locate a factory.
> >
> > First President to file lawsuits against the states he swore an oath to
> > protect (AZ, WI, OH, IN).
> >
> > First President to withdraw an existing coal permit that had been
> > properly issued years ago.
> >
> > First President to actively try to bankrupt an American industry (coal).
>
> > First President to fire an inspector general of Ameri-Corps for catching
> > one of his friends in a corruption case.
> >
> > First President to appoint 45 czars to replace elected officials in his
> > office.
> >
> > First President to surround himself with radical left wing anarchists.
> >
> > First President to golf 73 separate times in his first two and a half
> > years in office, 104 to date.
> >
> > First President to hide his medical, educational and travel records.
> >
> > First President to win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING to earn it.
> >
> > First President to go on multiple global “apology tours” and concurrent
> > “insult our friends” tours.
> >
> > First President to go on 17 lavish vacations, including date nights and
> > Wednesday evening White House parties for his friends paid for by the
> > taxpayer.
> >
> > First President to have 22 personal servants (taxpayer funded) for his
> > wife.
> >
> > First President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000 a year at
> > taxpayer expense.
> >
> > First President to repeat the Holy Quaran & tell us the early morning
> > call of the Azan (Islamic call to worship) is the most beautiful sound on
> > earth.
> >
> > First President to tell the military men and women that they should pay
> > for their own private insurance because they “volunteered to go to war
> > and knew the consequences".
> >
> > Then he was the First President to tell the members of the military that
> > THEY were UNPATRIOTIC for balking at the last suggestion.
> >
> > First President to side with a foreign nation over one of the American 50
> > states ( Mexico vs Arizona ).
> >
> > How is this hope and change working out for you?
> >
> >
> > THERE'S AN ELECTION COMING UP.
> >
> > I HOPE YOU REMEMBER THIS LIST WHEN YOU VOTE!
> >
> >

[surf4food]

Unfortunately i think this thread in just a few pages illustrates the biggest problem we have as a country. The polarization devolves to pointing out faults, name calling, and sarcasm. No suggestions for middle ground or bartering this for that. When GW was in the WH the left screamed about the time spent at the ranch, with BO in office the right screams about golf. Do you really think the President needs to be in his office to be involved and engaged? It's a dumb argument on both sides. We have little to no concern for compromise or solutions....just maintaining power and getting everything our way...whichever way that happens to be.

A lot of issues could be simplified and progress made towards some kind of solution if we could learn to negotiate.

Both parties suck, and the far left and far right should be rounded up and placed on a deserted island to kill each other off.

You basically nailed it.  In my life time I have never seen our country so divided (well the 60's but I was a kid).  It really doesn't matter which side of the political spectrum has the solutions because the other side will not let it happen.  We as a society are so divided that we might as well just accept the fact that we're screwed and at least enjoy the ride down.  And let's face it, politics by it's very nature is a crooked business.  Even the people I vote for I would never be friends with or sit down and share a drink with them.