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SUP General / Re: Value of older SUPs

« on: September 08, 2019, 04:59:28 PM »

The value also depends on where you’re located. I’ve bought several boards in SoCal for under $500 that were close to new, prototypes, or very lightly used and not that old. Here in New England now, the market is much less flooded and people ask too much for boards and they don’t sell. If they’re priced right, they’ll go quick. Overall, value and used prices are coming down everywhere. Three months ago I bought a 1 year old carbon 18’6 unlimited for $500.

Agreed, the used market in the NE kinda sucks. I was lucky to get my NSP Race for $600. Most of the time it's low-quality inflatables or something expensive. Even finding a reasonably priced Bic takes work.

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SUP General / Re: APP World Tour Event on Long Beach NY this week

« on: September 05, 2019, 08:24:24 AM »

I wish I could get there. It's less than two hour away!

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Random / Re: Electric Surf Vehicles in 2020

« on: September 05, 2019, 08:01:26 AM »

Rich people have a tendency to think most normal people think like them. I want an e car, most people want an e car. That idea is BS. The e car aficionados will be long gone before that happens. In the mean time I will just enjoy my 2020 Transit 250 AWD eco boost 3.5 with leather,nav,electric cargo door and dual swivel seats.

Tesla's aren't for me either. They're too expensive and.., I don't know. I am as green as it gets, and I'm glad to see Tesla pushing the big car companies in the right direction, but I want my environmentalism accessible by normal folk.

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SUP General / Re: First session back in the water with the Cape Cod morning crew!

« on: September 02, 2019, 05:54:33 AM »

Great video, Creek. Did you get some of the pics your friend took? I'd love to see them.

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SUP General / Re: Southern, East Coast guys, what do you do to prepare for a hurricane?

« on: September 02, 2019, 05:46:48 AM »

I have to say though, if you're in the path of one of those monster storms and you can leave, do it. Especially if you live in a loe-lying area.

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SUP General / Re: Southern, East Coast guys, what do you do to prepare for a hurricane?

« on: September 01, 2019, 04:28:13 AM »

Even inland the hurricane can have a big effect. Hurricane Irene wasn't a big deal on the coast, but when it went to upstate NY it caused a lot of erosion, flooding, downed trees. Do what Creek said, but also be prepared to be without basic services for a while. The underground stuff (water, gas) is usually fine but electricity is fragile. We always stock up on nonperishables, especially Parmalat for milk. (Same thing when a big snowstorm comes through.) Roads can be inaccessible too, so be prepared for that. Make sure you have a supply of necessary prescriptions.

I think too have some tools to prepare for downed trees on your property. Unless the tree is in a dangerous place, like leaning on power lines, it's not going to get taken care of immediately.

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Random / Re: Users "Location" In Posted Messages

« on: August 27, 2019, 05:57:30 PM »

Thanks, I found that useful.

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Random / Re: Electric Surf Vehicles in 2020

« on: August 22, 2019, 05:06:23 PM »

The electric truck..

https://rivian.com/

From what I'm reading, Ford is working with Rivian to develop their electric pickups.

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SUP General / Re: First lesson did not go well. Struggling and disheartened. Bigger person

« on: August 22, 2019, 04:39:18 PM »

I'm starting to worry I'll never stand up without falling in or even be able to move.
I was on a large blue and yellow O'shea board (hope I've got the name right) which was 10'6 x 32 and as soon as I slightly shifted my weight, even into one bent leg, to try and bend the other to stand up, the whole thing was tipping to one side.

Is this the board?  https://www.sup-internationalmag.com/shaping-bay/oshea-10-6-hd-test-review/

If it is, it says 106x34x260L which should be ok for someone larger than you.  If not, there are larger and more stable boards.  I have had quite a bit of luck starting friends off paddling on similar sized or slightly smaller boards.  It takes a little while to get your sea legs.  Quickbeam's guidance sounds pretty sound.  Also these boards tend to be more stable when they are moving so oftentimes it helps to take a few strokes kneeling and then when the board has forward motion, you can try to stand up.  Hopefully you stay the course as SUP can give you years of health and happiness!

805, that board seems like it's the right width, but inflatables can be twitchy. A good hard board is easier. I use these. The plastic makes them a little easier to fall on.

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SUP General / Re: First lesson did not go well. Struggling and disheartened. Bigger person

« on: August 22, 2019, 04:36:15 PM »

I've taught people bigger than you, male and female. You're not that big for paddleboarding, trust me. What I use in my classes are 35 inch wide boards that are really easy to stand on. I tend to agree with the others that you need something wide to start on. You'll still fall, but so what? We all fall. That's a necessary part of learning.

Get on something really wide and work out your balance. If you need to stay on your knees, then that's fine. learn how to work your paddle, then when you're ready to stand, do so. Then you will probably fall, so just go over the whole process again. Soon you'll be getting up so quickly that the fall won't matter.

Also, put that leash on before you're on the board. That will solve that problem.

You can see me teaching a lesson on the pic I've included. (I'm in yellow.) The guy on the left (on the green board) weighs about as much as you do and he was trying SUP out for the first time. He stood and fell. He was on his knees and fell. By the end of the class could paddle okay, and he was stable on his knees. That's progress. Again, we were using my huge Imagine Surfers, but I actually got them because they're so stable. They give confidence to the beginner,

When you get on the water, think out your progression like that. Don't compare yourself with anyone else. And keep at it. Ask for a board extra wide to start on, like 34–35". Anything smaller might not be right for you. Once you get some skills down you'll progress to something smaller, but not yet. Go for wide and keep trying.

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Random / Re: Electric Surf Vehicles in 2020

« on: August 22, 2019, 07:35:21 AM »

Yeah, I would buy one of these today if they were available.  370 HP, 300 Miles. They are doing a cargo version as well.  2022, though.  Faking emissions testing will be less of an issue with no emissions .

http://newsroom.vw.com/vehicles/future-cars/official-the-vw-bus-is-back-and-its-electric/

Yeah, those new VWs are really cute. I can't see myself getting a full electric vehicle yet, but I like the progress. I wish there were more plug-in hybrids out there, especially ones that aren't sedans.

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Random / Re: Electric Surf Vehicles in 2020

« on: August 22, 2019, 04:55:15 AM »

I've been looking at the Jeep Renegade pug-in hybrid to replace my CRV:

https://www.topspeed.com/cars/jeep/2019-jeep-renegade-hybrid-ar184867.html

Not a complete hybrid, but it gets about 30 miles.

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SUP General / Re: Seattle Times Article on SUP Related Drownings

« on: August 13, 2019, 05:23:04 PM »

Another fatality due to leash getting stuck on piling.  What’s weird is the woman was doing sup yoga and went to help someone else who got stuck in a current, huh!
Happened Friday in Long Island, NY.  I had trouble trying to get a link to the article.

https://www.newsday.com/long-island/suffolk/albertson-woman-drowns-1.34564310

Very tragic and this can happen in seconds. To touch on what Area put out there is that quick release leashes aren't actually quick release imo. These leashes have "quick release" tabs or straps that you typically have to reach down to release, and in strong currents, and when you are already entangled, this becomes much more difficult and sometimes impossible. I have leashes with quick release toggles for whitewater/river use, and sometimes even getting to this on my waist isn't easy at all in strong current, so as mentioned before, preventative education, practice and staying calm is key, but entanglement with leashes is obviously dangerous and there has been multiple deaths over the past few years as a result.

There is some great stuff getting put out on this thread but I think it has to be a really balanced approach that goes both ways. If we are going to say the board is also a floatation device and it's very important to be tethered to it, then the dangers of entanglement need to be presented as well. Education on paddling in current, around boats, being aware of obstructions that can lead to entanglement, and learning about leashes and their different applications. No one thinks they are going to get entangled when they head out for the day and then it happens. It's the preventative piece, the equipment, and escape practices that also need to be incorporated as well.

A colleague of mine is joining HVH2O with some SUP lessons. She's bringing a friend and was asking all sorts of questions about the current and our safety equipment. Then the colleague tells me that her friend was close with the person who drowned on Long Island. I had to let her know that we take safety very seriously and don't operate in any substantial current. We also always do leashes and PFDs, which is the right call for where I paddle.

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SUP General / Re: Its official (Im a kook)

« on: August 12, 2019, 09:24:17 PM »

When surfing, I'm always a kook. I should have it tattooed on my forehead.

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SUP General / Re: The price of new boards/how do you choose?

« on: August 11, 2019, 06:03:09 PM »

I have different criteria than most of the other people here. I'm not so concerned with performance but durability and price. Since I live in a very rocky area, my boards need to take a beating, and since I'm not racing or doing any serious surfing, the high-end performance isn't important.

I look for a board that can perform reasonably well, take a beating, and carry my stuff. Craigslist can be useful if I know boards that will fit that category. A few years ago I got a well-worn NSP 14' board for $600. (Look up "ghost board" on this forum if you want the funny story.) I knew that model was tough enough so I bought it, and I still need to repair it a couple of times a season. I think if you go used you need to really know what you're buying. Otherwise I stick to the brands I trust, like Bic or NSP.