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SUP General / Re: wavesailing on a sup board
« on: July 20, 2007, 07:38:33 AM »
We saw you linking a deep bottom turn and coming hard off the top as we were rounding the bend by Ho'okipa (ever wonder why there are so many accidents right there?).  We cheered for you, but if you didn't hear, it was because the windows were up.  That swell looked like it may have been more than just wind (pretty organized).  It actually looked really nice.

For those who aren't familiar, Cammar runs a great Maui blog and now discusses it on his own forum category here:

SUP General / Re: San Diego Paddle Surfers: This sport is ridiculous!
« on: July 20, 2007, 07:27:13 AM »
Thanks for stopping by.  Your blog is great.  So cool to see local scenes popping up and the same excitement we are noticing.  As for private waves, it may be the best thing about this sport.  I have started to think of it as surfing an area rather than a spot.  It is amazing how differently the same swell or wind direction can effect breaks only a few hundred yards apart.

Talk about getting it alone and making something from nothing, How's about this wave?

Gear Talk / Re: Market survey of entry level SUPs on Maui
« on: July 19, 2007, 06:04:33 PM »
Hi Doggy,

Check here:

Events / Re: Standup paddle surfing on tv last night
« on: July 19, 2007, 04:39:09 PM »
We caught that.  Really cool to see almost 1/2 hour of high quality stand up footage on the tube.  Checkout their magazine (also named Heavy Water) as well.  Great shots of Ikaika Kalama at Pipe and Backdoor, and Brian K getting some 3X at Makaha.

Best, Randy

Technique / Re: Knee down stylienessitude
« on: July 19, 2007, 08:50:10 AM »
More will be available for sure.  Ivan is making a stadup instructional vid:

Technique / Knee down stylienessitude
« on: July 19, 2007, 06:53:36 AM »
For those who don't scour youtube with your coffee each morning, here is Ivan having a blast on some waist to shoulder high waves.


Gear Talk / Re: What'd'ya think of this blade shape?
« on: July 18, 2007, 04:26:22 PM »
Hi Linter,
Compare it to this one made by infinity:

here is the link to the page I grabbed this from.  Scroll down for some action pics of this paddle in use, and the manufacturer descriptions of each of their models.

In short, your paddle blade seems very similar to some of those.  Use it, try some stand up specific paddles as you go, and upgrade when it becomes possible. 


SUP General / Re: wavesailing on a sup board
« on: July 18, 2007, 03:29:12 PM »
Great shot, great perspective.  I think there may be 6 inches of rail that you aren't using.  who needs a fin anyways?  ;D  Could you feel the blade wash from the copter?

Gear Talk / Re: Surftech Laird
« on: July 18, 2007, 06:15:00 AM »
I have ridden the Laird, and think that it is a very stable platform on which to learn.  Very big guys (220 lbs plus) are using them for wave riding, so it certainly can be done.  I am 185-190 lbs (depending on waffle availabilty) and struggled to set a rail (31 inches wide). 

I saw a great looking Infinity custom over here, and that could be a strong option, but until you really know what specs you are after, production may be a good choice.  You have a surfing background and a good low center of gravity.  You could certainly start and learn well with these two:

C4 10'6
Bill Foote (Lightning Bolt prouction model) 10'6

Or these if you want to push yourself.  You will wobble and fall more as you learn, but it is definitely doable:

C4 10'
SOS Big Green 10'
Jimmy Lewis 10'
Paddle Surf Hawaii 10 foot "All Rounder"

Here is a snip on size rec's from the C4 site on their models:

Which board is right for me? 
The 11-6 is a beginner board, and is also a high performance Tandem board
used by Brian Keaulana/Kathy Terada, current World Champs. Its great for
learning or for a really big guy over 250lbs.

10'6" is a great high-performance sub that is built for good surfers,
with a bigger guy in mind, 200-225 lbs. It can be used for as a beginner
board for someone 150-190lbs.

10'0" is a sub that is built for good surfers 140-180lbs. It can be used
for as a beginner board for someone 120-140lbs. Dave Parmenter just won
the 2007 Noosa Surfing Festival for SUP surfing Event on this same
board!!! Finals had the likes of Bonga Perkin's, Josh Constible, Brian
Keaulana, Dave Kalama and Mick Debetta.

I hope that helps.


Gear Talk / Re: Fins, fins and fins
« on: July 18, 2007, 05:39:22 AM »
Hi Andy,
Very cool link.  I had been to the Infinity site, but never had browsed the longboards (only stand up).  I had originally taken the idea from Mark Richards who shapes prone surfing models that he calls super twins or super fish.  They use a twin configuration with a smaller trailer.  The cool thing about the link that you provideded is that Infinity is alligning the fins.  I have gradually been pushing the middle one forward, and as you would expect, it gets looser and looser (when it is at the front of the box, you can blow out the tail with a strong sweep off the top).  Having the big fins on the rail makes the board drive and accelerate by pumping really nicely.

This is a Paddle Surf Hawaii 9'2 production model (it seems like it may measure a bit shorter than that- just under 9'1 on my tape) x 26.75-27.25 x 4.25.  The width and thickness are as close as I can measure without a caliper or slide. 

Gear Talk / Re: New paddle technolgy
« on: July 17, 2007, 07:48:03 AM »

I think I soiled myself.  That vid should come with a *take a deep breath first* warning.


SUP General / Cool content
« on: July 17, 2007, 06:57:04 AM »
Here is a link to an interesting blog entry done by Giampaolo  He regularly covers stand up and stand up sailing (he was one of the first sailing stand up style boards-although he will modestly deny that).  Very cool to see the thought and design going into all of the aspects of this sport. 

Technique / Re: Welcome!
« on: July 17, 2007, 06:31:09 AM »
Hi Russ,
Who is the shaper (or what is the brand) of the board you are getting?  I would like to add them to the list we posted if possible.  Be sure to send some photos when available.  I will email the guys at the shop you linked and invite them over.  Thanks!

SUP General / Re: International Waterman website/journal
« on: July 17, 2007, 06:22:51 AM »
Hi Mike,

Thanks for the links.  I think your concept is terrific and appreciate your posting them.  I smile when I hear the varied sports backgrounds (and combos)  that people are coming to stand up from.  Plenty participate in many, or all, of the sports you intend to cover.  Here,, Andy talks about the community stoke for this new sport.  I could not agree more.  Some very unlikely groupings of people are out in the water, paddling, cruising, surfing, laughing, playing like kids. 

We will do our best to promote that side of the sport (and the related sports), and those who promote it.

Again, thanks for your participation,

Gear Talk / Fins, fins and fins
« on: July 16, 2007, 09:59:11 AM »
I have been running two 5 inch twins with a little trailer 3.5 trailer for the last few weeks, and was really stoked with the setup (for waves):

Well, yesterday I dropped in these guys:

It is a 3 fin set which also uses two 5 inch twins with a 4 ich trailer, but the shape and flex are different.  That tiny change makes the board feel so much different.

A friend over here who is racing and doing crossings said he switched to a big G-10 windsurfing fin and his board fealt like a diferent animal (accelerated faster and tracked better).  I am usually lazy about fins (once their in, their in), but lately I have had the bug and it is very cool.

Let me know what is working for you.


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