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Foil SUP / Re: Supfoil beginner board size

« on: April 11, 2024, 01:58:02 AM »

Yes, Thanks, this is very useful.  I don't know if I will get into it but I might and I would refer to this thread.

I'm wondering how important is the width? what do you recommend?
as I'd read that the wing does add some stability, or is that really minimal for beginners.

Hey Subber,

We are talking about strictly sup foil surfing.  Are you referring to the wing as in hand wing or front foil wing.

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Foil SUP / Re: Supfoil beginner board size

« on: April 08, 2024, 09:08:20 PM »

My .000002

This is my opinion if you are going to for sup foil surfing. Not winging.

Go bigger to learn.   I am pretty close to your size.  I learned on an 8 foot hyper nut foil board and had  blast.  It is a boat.  I got to where I could catch unbroken waves with it.  Then I moved down in size.  It seemed like there was a race to small foil sups because of "the feel" and "swing weight" and all that bullshit.  You have to learn how to foil on a waves first.  Catch and ride waves for a few months on a bigger beginner board with beginner foils before you even start listening to any of that.  And when you have ridden waves for a few months on the big one and buy a smaller one. Dont sell the big one right away.  There will be glassy days where you can start catching waves on the smaller one. And then there will be choppy days where you can go out, but just take the big one to have fun while you are still getting accustomed to the smaller one.  Once you get to the point where you are riding the smaller one in crappy conditions, then sell the bigger one. Unless you think you are going to have friends want to start, at which point you give them a taste with the bigger one and then sell it to them. 

I have a few friends that are currently learning to supfoil and were sold completely wrong boards by STUPID shops.  I told them return them or sell them because it wont be any fun.  Boards around 6'2 - 6' 6" , wide and floaty.  Problem is they are too short.  They cant paddle them or catch waves.  They try to justify their boards while not catching anything and making excuses.  I have an older 7'2 starboard hyper foil and when I let them use it, they are amazed.  They pretty much can almost start catching waves right away.

I would not go any smaller than 7 feet long.  If possible, go 7'6 or 8 feet. I would try to go used.  You have to hunt but these type do pop up.  Sometimes shops also are sitting on older larger boards like this that they have not been able to sell.  The 7'6 that sflinux recommended would be a great board. These boards will be bigger, slower and heavier.   But you will be able to stand, paddle, and catch waves.  If you want to catch waves and learn to sup foil in the waves.  This will be the best way.

I just realized you were older (more age experienced  )   Starboard made some great bigger foil boards.  Either the take off in in the 7'1 x 31 at 150L or there wingboard at 7' x 31" at 145 L

these paddle fine even though they say wingboard

https://isthmussailboards.com/2023-starboard-wingboard-lite-tech.html?sku=SBFB22WBLT70&gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIyLSMop20hQMVwDbUAR1LNwj8EAQYAyABEgLmr_D_BwE

2022 Starboard 8’0″ X 31.5″ Hyper Nut Foil 5 In 1
https://www.californiakiteboarding.com/product/2022-starboard-80-x-31-5-hyper-nut-foil-5-in-1/?attribute_pa_sup-construction=carbon

This cabrinha cross fly is great beginner board too
https://adventurekiteboarding.com/products/cabrinha-x-fly-hydrofoil-wing-board-76-153l?variant=44500544913712&srsltid=AfmBOopNCdy0ThOQWb4f9ht4awun-ooxbhuTotyJAEaortsYE1ysOu55vD4

Here is the hyper foil that I let beginners use
https://www.epic-boardsports.com/2021-starboard-72x30-hyper-foil-starlite-v2.html

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Gear Talk / Re: JL Super Frank fin advise

« on: April 06, 2024, 06:15:32 PM »

Cant give you any fin advice for those boards.

But that is a very nice 2 board quiver.

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Travel, Trips, Destinations / Re: I needed that! (El Salvador)

« on: April 03, 2024, 03:10:30 AM »

Good to see you back in game SA.  I guess you are really enjoying that feeling of being back on the board and out in the water.

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Sunova Carver Unboxed

« on: January 20, 2024, 12:13:05 AM »

21.5 is great.  I also have a 21.  Don't notice the 1/2" difference at all.  22 wouldn't bother me either.

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Sunova Carver Unboxed

« on: January 17, 2024, 01:27:34 PM »

That review was not from me.  I found it on facebook somewhere but figured I would add it.

Though I do have a custom board that is similar to your carver.  6'2 x 21.5" except at 100L.  Loving it so far.

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Sunova Carver Unboxed

« on: January 16, 2024, 08:18:28 PM »

Saw this review about the carver so I figured I would add it to the discussion.

I recently tried out the Sunova Carver 6.2 Custom 79Ltr board, pairing it with an Axis ART Pro 1051 foil and a 4m wing for some short downwind runs. Normally, lifting my board with a 4m wing and the 1051, particularly in open ocean swells around 20-23 knots, has been a struggle. However, the Carver has been a game-changer. It’s still a bit of a sinker for me, but I can stand on crunch down to get it flying. When it’s on the surface, it skips over the water to gain the speed necessary to engage the foil. The speed it generates is unbelievable.
Recently, I took it into some waves, using the Axis Spitfire 780 and 720 with a 4m wing in winds between 22-25 knots. Surprisingly, the Carver allowed me to generate enough speed through the chop to get the foils flying. I was blown away by how easily I could downsize my foils by 1-2 sizes thanks to the Carver’s narrow size and length, which enable it to plane incredibly fast.

Impressed by the performance, I couldn’t resist going back to the foil shop today and acquiring a 5.2 with stock measurements as well. As a heavier rider at 6.5ft and 107kg, I’ve designated the 6.2 Carver as my go-to for light wind conditions. If the wind picks up beyond 20 knots, I’ll switch to the 5.2 for an optimal experience. Totally stoked

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Classifieds / Re: WTB Jimmy Lewis Superfly

« on: November 13, 2023, 02:11:41 PM »

Unifoil has a board coming out called the quiver killer.

They mention two models, 5’2" x 19" x 3.6" @ 45L and 5’6" @ 55L



 https://youtu.be/H1BX20eZJSQ?feature=shared&t=3257

at 54:17

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Gear Talk / Re: PaddleSurfHawaii 2024

« on: November 09, 2023, 04:07:31 AM »

Those do look good.

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The Shape Shack / Re: Ultralight Board II – SUP Foil Bumblebee

« on: November 09, 2023, 04:06:53 AM »

Need to do a video building the whole board.  I think there are a few people that would enjoy it and want to take  a crack at building something that keep thinking about but is not being produced.

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Small downwind boards for winging

« on: July 04, 2023, 06:07:35 AM »

These will be awesome

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Training, Diet, and Fitness / Re: Back surgery advice

« on: June 12, 2023, 05:56:01 PM »

Good to hear you are doing good.

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Interested to hear what wind people use a 3m Wing in.. :)

« on: June 11, 2023, 10:12:56 AM »

You are seeing the difference on a board that is 6'1'.  I am planning on using mine on my new 7'7".  these new longer boards are real slippery through the water.   They get speed real quick. I can almost get up with a 5 in 8-9 mph.  Only tried once so far and almost got it so with a little technique adjustment and refinement I should be able to.

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Interested to hear what wind people use a 3m Wing in.. :)

« on: June 10, 2023, 12:45:16 PM »

The downwind boards for winging could really change when you could use a 3m wing. I had read about someone using a 3m with their downwind board and a big foil to get going early. 

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Foil SUP / Re: Another revelation about the Barricuda style Kalama board!

« on: June 07, 2023, 11:08:43 AM »

Nice to know.  OK so how is handling bigger  choppy conditions.  I just got the armie 7'7. Have not taken it out in the surf yet cuz of work at the moment, but had a few minutes to take it paddling in some river chop and surprised how stable it was. Ocean will be a different story but its a start.