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Thanks, Dwight.  Tho' about the same cost of a 37&1/2pc 'Mechanics Tool Set' from Hunan, I am sure it is worth it.  I am an old fan of McC.  Cheers.


Sessions / Re: Same day Mt Baldy skiing and SUP sessions
« on: April 30, 2020, 06:48:23 AM »
We had a booth at the Newport boat show years ago and these people came in the afternoon from Big Bear - dressed like it.  Waaaa?!


General Discussion / Re: Watch out DWight
« on: April 30, 2020, 06:45:44 AM »
It must have followed Creek after he left Cape Cod for FL...   Now he has to turn around and go back North.  Rick has a new van - he cudda carried'm.


General Discussion / Re: I surfed this morning and it was great!
« on: April 30, 2020, 06:41:48 AM »
Good for you TD.  Like Cowboy, I love having 'done the work'.  I can't wait to get back in.


Random / Re: Should we really wait for "them" to figure this out?
« on: April 30, 2020, 06:39:39 AM »
Keep your eyes open...  My daughter works for UCSF and recently moved from the 'cold and damp city' to Marin County. She called to say; 'Just in time.'  ...there have been numerous food store break-ins in her former neighborhood and one incident—a line of people waiting to get in a food store had a car of guys pull up and relieve them of their phone and $$ by gunpoint.

There's a little, low-watt, AM radio station in Delaware where Hillary's e-mails and George Soros comes up at least once a week. These people are angry, armed, and upset with a lot of doomsday prepper talk.  They are happy to ignore that all the farm labor and chicken plant workers in the area are illegal, but now—nervous because these same workers carry loads of Covid. 

The problem for the sick workers is the only obligated medical care they have is the ER. Single men who send remittances to MEX, Guatemala, etc tend to live in clusters.  Only a few states have Workman's comp statutes to expressly include undocumented immigrants—Arizona, California, Colorado, Hawaii, North Carolina, Tennessee, and Texas.

Now that food plants are considered 'essential' ..are the bulk of the employees (illegals) considered essential?  At least the local governments are setting up testing stations specifically for this community.  But, then what - tell them to 'stay home'. 

Dusky put it nicely, but we are collectively 'falling forward' at such a pace it looks as if something like a virus may have to make such a large dent in global population to get us to stop looking at a $50,000 pickup truck with zero down, no payments for 90 days and 84 months as a 'good deal!'   ...or when you go into $200k debts for an education when jobs that pay $80k + are begging for employees.  My grandson is taking F'ing French toward his degree when someone was willing to give him a Heating/AC business in LA if he would just take the classes and work with him for a few years. Naaaaa... 

Wait 'till this c'hit his Lagos.


Random / Re: If you don not have cable at home...
« on: April 29, 2020, 06:54:26 AM »
Bill,  Ya, he's got a ton of stuff.  I wish there was more time in the day!  Cheers.


Random / Re: Should we really wait for "them" to figure this out?
« on: April 29, 2020, 06:51:24 AM »
I am far more pessimistic. When our chosen 'Leader' said; "We are not a shipping clerk." We were clearly in the COVID c'hitter.

I frankly feel we in the States are on a fairly high-speed train and have already past 'Best Days'. I think I am fortunate my last stop is not all that far off.   I too, consider myself a conservative but am continually disheartened by both sides. I have seen 'whites-only' drinking fountains, all the wars we fought and did not win, how happily use "illegal alien" labor throughout the economy but dispose of them without care or compensation if they get injured (a form of slavery), how a fighter plane costs $44,000 an hour to fly, how something called 'Private Equity' has become a termite infestation in our economy, we cannot build a bridge, airport or fix a road, we exported all textile, furniture, machine work and other jobs to Asia to allow industry to give the top 1% 'extraordinary' incomes, Big Ag forced Ethanol, school lunches and toxins upon society ..all along maintaining a subsidies tap thru disproportionate representation in Congress ...I am tired of thinking of things that bother me.

To put a cherry on it - we choose perhaps the singular most-gross-individual-ever to head our country.  If you break him down into traditional conservative values; family, church, honesty, modesty, others...  Trump takes every single one and blows them up with a nuclear force. A former liberal, now 'Conservative' - who personally presents himself as if he and his family are the physical embodiment and heirs to Louis XIV.   

It's exhausting  ...and, we are being chased like ants out of a hive by COVID 19.  Holy C'hit!


Random / Re: If you don not have cable at home...
« on: April 28, 2020, 09:57:34 AM »
Thanks again, Burch..  I will (when there's time...) dig into torrents.  Bridge for me is: "Where is that picture?"  It has no other value.

I found another really cool little tool. iTubeDownloader.  I absolutely love those short films 'Omeleto' on YouTube.  There are all sorts of really interesting mind-benders ...without feeling you ate a whole quart of ice cream to discover the twist in the plot.   The other surprise - the clarity of YouTube on TV.  You'd think you would have to watch the whole thing before you took it home as an mp4. Nope, it speed dnlds in the background.  Too cool.  My trial is about up - so I need to 'pay the piper'.   I am a Mac'ist. I only have a PC for downloading with AUDIALS.


Carib,  She can ' splain it better than I can.  I assume (always trouble) the hex insert is limited by the available meat in the head.


Foil SUP / Re: Foilsup on a 40L board ??
« on: April 27, 2020, 01:59:00 PM »
There was a guy about a year ago who did a 'dead start'.   He's got a few tips. 


Foil SUP / Re: Foilsup on a 40L board ??
« on: April 27, 2020, 07:17:56 AM »
Fantastic - good for you!


Random / Re: COVID-19 Data Model Updated Daily
« on: April 26, 2020, 08:09:26 AM »
As of  25 Apr... There's an interesting dynamic playing out in the area I am in.  The bottom county in the state of Delaware has 234,000 residents and ~1400 confirmed cases .. the four counties in Maryland that 'border' this Delaware county have 219,000 residents and 263 confirmed cases.  The entire area is mostly rural/agricultural with a focus on poultry and grain for poultry.  The Atlantic coast is developed for tourism/second homes. 

I do not have numbers, but like the midwest states with rampant spread in other meat plants, this Delaware county has a large population of undocumented workers working in chicken plants.  This whole area is sprinkled with them - they are the best roofers, drywallers, provide all the agricultural labor, and cut half the lawns in the area.  This area typically has millions of chickens in production at any given time.  In the 1960s it was mainly vegetables, but poultry dominated as 'factory farms' began to increase size and production.

Then, there's this...

In the story. ..somehow the reason for "COVID-19-related staff shortages." is not discussed.  But, I would bet the reason is in the virus count in Sussex County Delaware. Who would want to think the 'fresh' chicken you just bought was packed with the virus. 

There is a law that says a business cannot employ undocumented labor with a federal reporting requirement.  My impression is the law was written for cover and intentionally not enforced, unless politically needed.  For the most part, these people are 'disposable' if unable to work for any reason.  As shown with the Twin Towers on 9/11 ...where the cleaning and food service staff were neither accounted for nor did their families share in compensation.  We somehow both want to stop illegals from coming ...perhaps it is because we feel 11 million or so is just enough to clean our houses and care for grandma, but we will neither deport them en masse nor force the companies that employ them to provide the benefits accorded to 'regular' Americans.

As regular Americans get a Virus-bonus check, and even perhaps, a $600 weekly bonus atop their standard unemployment check, these folks are left to sweat it out.   


General Discussion / Re: Funny ;)
« on: April 25, 2020, 12:17:39 PM »'s a 'rub you right' or 'rub you wrong.'  ' Still cute.


Thanks, Randy.  I could see those words.  In summary: 'It depends.'. 

Our own Clay provides a visual.

This is a 'lift' from the people who make that really the cool stick-on foil mount.

Surf Mounting Location Guide

For surfboards and Stand-up Paddleboards the location you want to mount the hydrofoil depends much on the length and weight of the board your mounting on.  The GoFoil website has a great guide for box placement that is spot-on with what we've found for mounting the FoilMount.  There will be slight variations depending on your hydrofoil speed in the water, but because of the adjust-ability of the FoilMount they are a non-issue.  Here is a listing of board size with approximate distance from the back of the board measured from the rear edge of the FoilMount.

 Board Size (length)   FoilMount Distance from Rear of the Board

under 5ft    directly under where your rear foot will be on the board (pay attention to board rocker) minimal board weight at this size
5' -5'9"   8" - 12" from rear of board to rear edge of FoilMount
5'10" - 6'6"   10"-15" from rear of board to rear edge of FoilMount
6'7" - 7'4"   16" - 20" from rear of board to rear edge of FoilMount
7'5" - 8'6"   18" - 22" from rear of board to rear edge of FoilMount
8'7" - 9'6"   23" - 28" from rear of board to rear edge of FoilMount
9'7" -10'   25" - 29" from rear of board to rear edge of FoilMount
longer than 10ft   Mount around 28-30" and you will be able to accommodate with foot placement on the board.

They also have some really trick mounting bolts/nuts.

....the following is the GoFoil reference above.

Tuttle Box Placement for a GO Foil Brand Foil, Other Foils May Vary
Rough Guidelines to Tuttle box placements for different length boards: The measurement is made from the back opening of the Tuttle box or from the trailing edge of Mast on our plate foil to the tail of the board.
Check video for installing Tuttle box on out Tutorial Video page for more info.
Board Length   Distance from tail of board
3′ to 4’6″”   1′ to 6″
4’6” to 4’11”   4” to 8”
5’0″ to 5’9   6” to 12”
5’10” to 6’6”   8” to 15”
6’7” to 7’4”   12” to 20”
7’5” to 8’6”   16” to 22”
8’7” to 9’6”   20” to 28”
Prone surfboards in general need the box further back than a SUP. This is because the lighter the board, the less lift you need to make and/or keep it foiling.
Think of your back foot on a prone board where you would like to place it when standing up into surf position. Generally, your foot will be close to standing directly on top of the mast when on a prone board or slightly forward of that position.
On a SUP, you can stand slightly aft of the prone position, so many stand on the trailing edge of the mast on their SUPs.
Box placement further forward creates greater lift and earlier planing but you will be standing further towards the nose to balance it.
Box further back usually helps the boards turn ability.
Lightweight riders need less lift and heavy riders need more lift so consider the riders size when choosing box placement. is on GoFoil's FAQ page.


Random / Re: This could compete with the Hobie Yo!-Row!
« on: April 22, 2020, 02:31:09 PM »
I looked at it harder - it does not seem she is putting nearly the effort required for forward movement... But, the detail I am most interested in: the gyroscopic balance!


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