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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Wing foil sessions - beginner

« on: November 08, 2020, 11:38:37 PM »

whelp, I guess I'm winging now. Or I will be once I fix my wing. Two whole sessions under my belt, which includes a few moments of foiling, but mostly flailing.

Today, while walking the rig back upwind along the beach, the very gusty wind got under the board and flipped it right onto the wing. The tail pierced into the leading edge for an insta-deflate, and a much longer walk of shame. I guess instead of wing instructional videos, I'll be watching wing repair instructional videos. Repair tips appreciated.

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Foil SUP / Re: GoFoil: amazing wings with crappy tails

« on: October 30, 2020, 04:43:29 PM »

I am becoming more and more convinced that GoFoil (and lyft) inadvertently set us back by a few years because of their concept of fully moulded tails. The whole concept is fundamentally flawed - adjusting pitch and position are so important. The original Maliko and Kai tail offered zero adjustment short of getting out the grinder. I don't really blame them - how could we have known at the time - but some of the other brands got it right from the beginning. At least now most brands have transitioned to the 2xM6 at 30mm standard. Tails are going the way of fins and are best customized by the owner.

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Foil SUP / Re: GoFoil: amazing wings with crappy tails

« on: October 30, 2020, 12:35:55 PM »

Coupla new learnings - maybe this could save y'all some time experimenting.

I originally mounted my Kane tail at just over 1.5deg and was super happy. I didn't want to touch it because it was such an improvement over the flip tip and figured I nailed it. Then I decided to experiment as usually happens... I moved it to 1deg and promptly paddled quarter of a mile out to mushroom rock without any tools (hi Beasho). That wasn't to my liking at all - it kept wanting to stall and turns didn't feel locked in. Kind of ruined the session, but oh well.

I've arrived at my latest favorite setting (*until I start messing around again, I guess).

I drilled and heli-coiled a new hole in the fuse to direct mount the tail. 15 minute job being careful to measure thrice and drill twice

- this moves the tail up 30mm versus the short pedestal. It turns out the angle of the taper on the fuse puts the tail at almost exactly 2deg up versus the front wing. So, what-the-hell I'll just direct mount with no shims.

Oh-My-God! this fixed all the issues and surpassed the 1.5deg setting. Yes - 0.5deg makes an immediately noticeable difference. Low speed pumping is back in play - the low speed stall threshold moved significantly. Glide is no worse but turns got much more locked in and pumping is easier. Done

Probably a mix of shortening the fuse and increasing the angle, but from the feel, I think the angle is most of it.

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Foil SUP / Re: 6.5 pedestal and 17.5 flip tip?

« on: October 30, 2020, 12:27:44 PM »

If you're handy with tools, skip the pedestal altogether. You can drill two holes and install helicoils. You'll end up with a cheaper, lighter weight, less drag, and slightly shorter fuselage solution. I'm posting up about this in another thread now

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Prone Foiling, Surf foiling, Pump Foiling / Re: Ok, post up your prone foil gear

« on: October 28, 2020, 02:14:32 PM »

nope, I can't find any further information about it online other than the real-water-sports video review. But I also haven't been proning at all. Planning to get one if I can sell some wings.

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The Shape Shack / Re: Asymetrical SUP

« on: October 28, 2020, 02:09:50 PM »

I assume more that it is made for goofy footers going either way

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Foil SUP / Re: Goddam Sup Foiling is fun

« on: October 22, 2020, 11:40:21 PM »

Got ahold of the clip

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Foil SUP / Re: GoFoil: amazing wings with crappy tails

« on: October 20, 2020, 08:49:22 PM »

The great Clamsmasha showed his tail mounting method here:
https://forum.surfer.com/index.php?threads/refuckulation-thread.221065/post-3063970

I bought some M6 helicoils and am threatening to ditch the gofoil pedestal system altogether. I should be able to shorten up the fuse a little bit too. More fiddling around...

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Foil SUP / Re: Mad Foil Skills...

« on: October 20, 2020, 11:49:14 AM »

I first saw Kai do the standing duck dive - I'm guessing its actually a little easier with a foil. The foil seems to pull the board under and through the wave. I've been able to duck under some big ones it a few times on my knees. Gotta really hold on to the rails or you get swiped right off the back of the board as you're trying to go through. I was never able to do it on my standup without the foil though.

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Foil SUP / Re: Mad Foil Skills...

« on: October 20, 2020, 11:40:08 AM »

How could you have missed this one last night?

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Foil SUP / Re: GoFoil: amazing wings with crappy tails

« on: October 20, 2020, 08:11:34 AM »

yes, pretty much.

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Classifieds / GoFoil GL wings

« on: October 19, 2020, 09:35:23 PM »

Raising money to feed the habit... broke another mana paddle and maybe a new prone board. Prices don't include shipping from California or paypal fees. All wings are all-carbon and have a universal fit for any generation of masts

$550 GL140 in great shape (with sleeve)
$550 GL180 in great shape (with sleeve)
$500 GL210 well used - looks the worst in photos, but I've recently filled all the scratches and sanded back to 600grit. painful to let this one go, I have almost a hundred sessions on it (with sleeve)
$600 GL240 in good shape (with sleeve)