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SUP General / Re: Surfboards (Longboards)
« on: February 07, 2024, 09:01:48 AM »
Some great pop up videos in this thread.  I came across this one where he talks about staggering the hands, to get the shoulders and hips turning earlier.
https://youtu.be/7qFScB4LzUc

Nice/useful.  I did some searching after watching that.
Here is one: "How World Champion Surfers Pop Up - in Slow Motion"
And, they have their hands staggered! 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUckE7OikB0

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SUP General / Re: Surfboards (Longboards)
« on: July 02, 2023, 09:59:00 AM »
Nice Update!

I have a few halo fins of different sizes - some "real" and some probably knockoffs. 

I got 10.5" for noseriding on my SUPs hoping it would be low paddle and low takeoff drag
and also work well for noseriding and top to bottom turning.   I think it is good for all of those areas.
If they had an 11" I'd probably get that one too for noseriding as my SUPs are pretty large, and
maybe a bit more area would make it more solid top to bottom (I need to test again - lol).

I typically have it all the way back in the box for noseriding. 
I note if I'm not lined up with the wave energy the board can Yaw on takeoff I suppose because of the low amount of area.
After I concentrated on avoiding that it (the third session) it became a non-issue.

Also, it has that straight leaning back front edge (good in kelp!) - If I'm far back on the board for turning it can do a wicked
pivot turn (sometimes an overturn) - actually pretty fun, but I've had a couple radical spinouts - lol.  Standing not so far back equals not as much of a pivot.  So, I probably don't turn from as far back anymore with this fin. 

I've heard/read he designed it so that you can steer from further forward on the board - I think true and if you are there, no pivot - so that is where you want to be for top to bottom surfing.  I note my Takayama 11 footer has been difficult to steer from way up front with other fins - I need to try
this fin in that board to see if it gives better steering for longer noserides.   

I've had it out in big spilling waves on my Black and Blue noserider and it worked great - phew (although not remembering
how much top to bottom surfing I was doing).
When noseriding it normally holds in but I've also had some slipslidy noserides where the tail is sliding along
with the rest of the board - kind of controlled sideslipping, probably partly because my large boards are pretty floaty
and the fin has a narrow profile and low area.

On my Pearson Laird I use it as either a single or with small sidebites - surfs well but the whole setup is draggier paddling and taking off with the
sidies - 4" Takayama Halos.

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General Discussion / Re: Motivation?
« on: June 12, 2023, 12:25:38 PM »
How was surfing with the Boost?

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Don't see many SUP surfers surfing right at the Hook.

You probably know that just East of there at Privates & Sharks, etc.
there are a lot of SUP surfers but its more of a long board break.

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Here is the same thing in 2011
Starboard 10′3″ x 29″ Pro SUP Stand Up Paddle Board
I'm pretty sure that pad is the original "Candy" per below.

DIMENSIONS
Length   10′3″   (312.4 cm)
Width   29″   (73.7 cm)
Thickness   4.3″   (10.9 cm)
Tail Width   15.9″   (40.4 cm)
Volume      (144 L)

AVAILABLE TECHNOLOGIES
Brush Carbon, Tac, Silver, Candy, Blue

I was checking out that board and a slightly shorter version (9'8") back when I was first getting into sup (around 2010).
I'm remembering the "Pro" designation meant you needed to know what you were doing - those were considered
pretty narrow at that time.

I'd give that a whirl if I found one around here (at a reasonable price).


more:
http://www.standuppaddlesurf.net/2011/07/26/starboard-103-x-29-pro-sup-stand-up-paddle-board/

"Here’s a preview of Starboard’s 10′3″ x 29″ Pro SUP stand up paddle board from their 2011 Pro Wave lineup. This board was shaped by Scott McKercher and Svein Rasmussen."
"A VERSATILE BOARD SUITED PERFECTLY FOR SURF AND FLAT WATER CONDITIONS.
The board you will want when the surf picks up. But it still performs in marginal conditions when you need the glide to get into the waves and handle late drops. With a drawn-out tail outline, thinner deck profiles, and rails and rocker line to match, it’s all about the containment of speed while still being able to initiate a turn and trust the board under your feet. An interesting by-product of this shape is the enhanced glide well suited to lighter riders wanting a board for calm water paddling. It’s a testers’ favorite and a fantastic board that enables endless progression in the waves.

“Long mono concave running from nose and two thirds of the board, merging to double concave with fair amount of tail V.”"

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The Shape Shack / Re: Maximum Displacement Hull Speed
« on: March 16, 2023, 12:44:28 PM »
How about the paddle?

New Quick Blade paddle advertisement says,
"We believe based on initial testing of the Stingray that it is so efficient it has increased boat traveling speeds by 1-2%;"
thoughts, or is that insignificant?

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SUP General / Re: Surfboards (Longboards)
« on: June 16, 2022, 01:17:39 PM »
I have a few Halo center's and side bites.
I like them for low drag either single or in combo. 
I find them to be OK to good for noseriding but
best for low paddle drag, easier take off and surfing from the tail.   

I run the 10.5" Halo as a single in my Pearson/Laird and in my B&B. 
Sometimes, if I do a wild turn, I will spin out.  Well, hasn't happened in quite a while. 

I run smaller Halo centers with Halo side bites
- great for higher performance surfing.

I also have some Webber style hatchets.  One is the Dorsal 10"
- it surfs a bit squirrely on my Laird (I've yet to try on the B&B) - probably fine on slower waves.
I think because the neck (and Flag) is fairly narrow - narrower than on other hatchets.
That 10" of the Dorsal size would likely be good on your 9.3" prone board - much smaller than my SUPs.
The Dorsal is much cheaper than fiberglass fins out there...like $28 on Ebay; maybe cheaper on their site.
If you get one, I'd recommend you soften the edges with a flat file
or sandpaper - when received, the edges are very sharp. 
It is a bit flexy but not a problem for this style fin.

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Random / Re: Delta Variant is here...
« on: August 03, 2021, 10:25:22 AM »
It's like trying to diagnose a problem with car that has a flat tire. There are no vaccinated people being hospitalized. If you've been vaccinated and you get it like my wife, her co-workers, and our friends kids, the symptoms are almost nothing to a 24hr fever, some congestion and a temporary loss of taste and smell. That's it.

And, the Delta variant, while more contagious, has symptoms that aren't as virulent as the original?

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Random / Re: Delta Variant is here...
« on: July 16, 2021, 10:27:57 AM »
My vacinatted RN wife is just getting over Covid-19 illness. She was one of the first to be vaccinated (Moderna). Her and 10 of her hospital co-workers all recently contracted Covid from the same patient. All tracing protocals were taken. All of her co-workers are /were already vaccinated with various Covid vaccines. She's doing fine now. She had a high temp for two days, coughing, and partial loss of taste and smell. She isolated herself from everyone for more than a week and no one around her has become ill. She was symptomatic within two days of exposure to the patient. Pfizer is reccomending a booster shot which they say can booster the effectiveness even more against the new variants. Maybe the fact that everyone else in our family (me included) were vaccinated much later lends itself the idea that the vaccines do lose their effectiveness over time? Maybe yearly booster shots will be needed?

Glad she is doing fine now.

Hmmm....I guess a question is, Is the natural immunity/antibodies she got from catching the virus better than the vaccine (and/or the potential  booster)?

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Technique / Re: How many steps to the tail?
« on: July 01, 2021, 10:45:58 AM »
My brother found watching Laird's video helpful when riding his log.  Laird has a wide stance.  You need this with longboards.  When moving up and down the board, it helps to try to keep your feet near the centerline of the board.  If you feel like you are starting to wheelie, maybe try a wider stance (front foot more forward).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dcuw4xGLaNk
When I switch between an 11', 10'6", 9'6", it is surprising how much real estate you have to cover to get to the tail, where you can feel the 6" of difference in board length.

Love the Laird Compilation - watch it every few months.
I use lots of different fin setups.  The other day I was surfing with a very small 2+1 setup on my 10'6" Pearson/Laird and I was noticing how I automatically had broadened my stance about as much as I can and I was thinking, "Oh...Like Laird does!" 
That way I could just lean - it was tricky to step.

So with the smaller fins or a tippier board, I think a wider stance.  With a Bigger fin that adds stability I don't do that noticeably -
if anything it is the opposite.

Also, with the less stable setup....leaning way over....putting a lot of force on the paddle so I don't fall in during the turns,
especially if I experience a wobble at the bottom of a hard bottom turn.  I don't do this nearly as much with bigger, more stable
fins in.  Of course, fin shape/placement matters too.

Since I am surfing what today are considered big boards, I'm often walking all over the place.
Although, not so much if I'm concentrating on turning way back on the tail which is also a lot of fun.  Maybe I'll sit back there for a few turns,
unless it is big and I have to step (or lean) forward to get the board going back down the steep.

I'm not muscling the board I'm just putting my weight in places so gravity and hydraulics and the shape and the fins, etc.
turn the board.

My balance was pretty weak when i started SUP surfing about 10 years ago.  I spent a lot of time practicing turning and
walking on the board in the Harbor - lol, I would still fall a lot in flat water.  So different now.  Amazing how we improve and how much stronger
our bodies and our core gets.  Such a great sport!

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Gear Talk / Re: 10' Sunova Style XL. Center Fin
« on: June 05, 2021, 09:55:20 PM »
You can use a piece of plastic or part of the wall of a coke can but
I build up a fin's base thickness with some Super Glue.

Spread a thin coat on one side, in the areas where the base is loose
then put it out in the sun to cure.  Best if it is warm and sunny.

It may take a few applications depending on how loose the fin is to start with.

Try not to inhale the fumes - do it outdoors.
If warm and sunny it takes about 20 minutes to harden.

- -
If the base is too thick I use a flat file to thin it down just a bit.
You can also wax the fin base and/or use a rubber mallet to bang it in.

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SUP General / Re: Surfboards (Longboards)
« on: May 24, 2021, 08:55:58 PM »
If one wants a nice single fin niche board that can do what the Parallax can do and can nose ride easily, then another of CJ's designed boards can do this and it is his "Neo Classic" longboard. The Neo Classic comes in two lengths which are: 9'5" x 23 1/2" x 3 1/8" @ 76.1 liters and 10'0" x 24" x 3 1/4" @ 84.4 liters.

CJ's rides his Neo Classic 10'0" length with a 10.5 "Power Flex" Flying Diamonds fin.

And I just so happen to have an indepth video review of his Neo Classic model in the 9'5" length below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul3b3ApIra8

Nice vid. 
I see the Neo Classic model is a pintail also but noserides better than the Parallax -
I guess the Neo Classic is designed to noseride more specifically..
Maybe the pintail is the "Neo" in Neo Classic.  Although they point out in the video that iit also has a bit of a step deck front and tail too.
Also, that the last foot or so of the tail has a bit of an edge rather than being 50/50.  Maybe
it turns as well as the Parallax - CJ was really turning and slashing with the Parallax in the earlier video.

My Pearson Laird 10'6" is a pin tail with a somewhat sharp edge from about the middle of the board.  It turns great and
noserides very well, but it lets go when you try to put toes over.
My Jimmy Lewis Black & Blue has a big square tail, more tail kick and 50/50 rails - a "dedicated noserider" - It does nose ride better & I can
get toes over but most of the time I've a few inches back while on the Laird I'm a foot or more back.

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SUP General / Re: Surfboards (Longboards)
« on: May 24, 2021, 11:16:06 AM »
Nice NW!
Appreciate the videos and research.

Boy, that has some flat rocker.

I've got an old Pearson/CJ Nelson Noserider by Surftech that I purchased used.
I've only surfed it a few times as I'm usually on my SUP, and my popup isn't that great.
I will say, it begs you to go to the nose - so you may become a noserider,
if the Parallax is similar to it.  Both have that very flat rocker.

Let us know all about what you think of it when you get it.

I wish CJ made SUP noserider.

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Random / Re: Surfing Quotes
« on: April 20, 2021, 08:15:30 AM »
First rule of surfing: when there's surf - surf
Second rule of surfing: never leave surf to find surf

And, for some of us,
Don't leave parking to get better parking.

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Random / Re: Doge to a Dollar
« on: April 19, 2021, 07:31:44 AM »
Manias!
 8)

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