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Foil SUP / Re: Wing Configuration

« on: June 17, 2017, 11:03:14 AM »

The set up

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Foil SUP / Wing Configuration

« on: June 17, 2017, 10:56:58 AM »

The Crazy Foil set up is very adjustable and have been testing different configurations. While not on the website, I tried a bi wing set up with two wings (22 inch by 5 inch) making 220 square inch total. Had some nice success with this set up and was able to take it to the river and foil SUP!! Next step will be to try the 28 inch and 22 inch wings up front (250 square inches) before going to the tri wing.

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Foil SUP / Re: Hydrus River Foil SUP Day 1 5-29-17

« on: June 09, 2017, 09:00:24 PM »

Right on!   River foiling looks really challenging, I hope to see more videos.   Reminded me of Tahoe, what river is that?

I am also hoping to see video from Kai's river foiling, Maybe get some insight on how to do it.

Clay,

It is the Spokane River in Spokane, Washington. We are going to different waves on the river based on the cfs. It's very interesting as going behind the boat is a consistent speed but the river varies in speed from 4-8 mph's. I've been testing a couple different types of foil systems in both settings (boat and wake).

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Foil SUP / River Foil SUP Day 2

« on: May 31, 2017, 09:25:24 PM »

Day 2 on the River Foil Sup and learned quite a bit. I moved the tbar and wings all the way back and took some shim out [Robert- I agree the front wing is too small and am interested in building a bigger one. I noticed on your post that you made a heavier one? Pono- thoughts on building a front wing?].

I fell on some entries by hitting rocks at the bottom- the 15 inch strut is about as long I'd go for this wave. My buddy had a GPS and the river was running 6.9-7 mph's in the middle. On a few of these, the foil is flying but the back of the board is touching.

The last fall I learned the all important "flip the board and wings over before the rock". lol

Any tips on paddling, catching the wave, foot position, etc. are appreciated!!

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Foil SUP / Re: Hydrus River Foil SUP Day 1 5-29-17

« on: May 30, 2017, 05:28:34 PM »

Here is one behind the boat at 10.5 mph's and the 25 inch strut. Got a loose line but couldn't let go and keep up with the boat.

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Foil SUP / Re: Hydrus River Foil SUP Day 1 5-29-17

« on: May 30, 2017, 05:25:28 PM »

Looks like you jump from a shallow rock into deeper water, so depth does not seem to be an issue, it looks like it should be possible to foil at that spot with some practice.  Both times you tried to launch the foil your feet were off center and it's impossible to foil if your feet are not in exactly the right place.  You can try to put arch pads on your board to mark the foot positions or use straps.  Did you practice behind a boat first?  Also, it looks like your foil is a kitesurfing foil which is smaller and needs more speed to fly.  A SUP foil flies more stable at lower speeds so should be easier to use.

Yes, I can ride the SUP Foil behind the boat but cannot let go of the rope- we are going about 10-10.5 mph's.

The board itself is a river surf SUP made by Hydrus called the Scud with the 4 inch mounting spaces below.

The tbar and wings are from Liquid Force made to wake surf. I have a 15, and 25 inch strut- the 15 was as long as I could go because the launch point was pretty shallow (hit a rock on the way in one time).  It is incredibly difficult to ferry over to the wave with the tbar and wings- once you pass the eddy line they catch (and try and lift like at the end of that short ride) and I agree, a bigger front wing would be nice!

There was a short period of time before I leaned back to much that it was flying but the back of the board was in the wave. This is because the Scud (board) has a TON of rocker built in it so that it can fit in shallow steep river waves. Because of this, the tbar is pushed all the way forward with quite a bit of shim stacked under it. A similar position to where it works behind the boat at 10-11 mph's. Because I had never tried this, I had no clue how fast river water flowed or the dynamics on a set-up. River waves are created by water flowing over a fast section and dropping (usually rocks) and hitting the back water.

I'm also looking at www.crazyfoil.com set-up for the river.

After day 1, I learned a few things and most importantly is that it can be done and on a SUP set-up. It would be awesome to move the tbar and wings back. Thanks for the tips on foot placement (don't think I'll put straps on it because of foot entrapment in the river). We will see!

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Foil SUP / Re: Hydrus River Foil SUP Day 1 5-29-17

« on: May 30, 2017, 05:20:42 AM »

Hello,

I'm not sure where to put this video because it's a River Foil SUP? Any how, have been going behind the boat with the Hydrus Scud that has slots for the foil. Because there is a bunch of rocker, the tbar had to be put really far forward. This was day 1 so any thoughts/tips would be helpful! Thanks!

https://www.youtube.com/edit?video_id=PO7qgjHm5CU

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Foil SUP / Hydrus River Foil SUP Day 1 5-29-17

« on: May 29, 2017, 10:11:15 PM »

Hello,

I'm not sure where to put this video because it's a River Foil SUP? Any how, have been going behind the boat with the Hydrus Scud that has slots for the foil. Because there is a bunch of rocker, the tbar had to be put really far forward. This was day 1 so any thoughts/tips would be helpful! Thanks!

https://www.youtube.com/edit?video_id=PO7qgjHm5CU

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Gear Talk / Re: ULI iSUP 10 ft Gerry Lopez

« on: April 15, 2017, 09:50:52 PM »

It does fine on flat water, however, with the smaller fcs fins it turns a bit more. Super impressed with the wiki rails- this thing bottom turns really nice and it's a 10 ft board.

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Gear Talk / Re: ULI iSUP 10 ft Gerry Lopez

« on: April 04, 2017, 02:19:13 PM »

The lighter board is tougher in the wind. Plenty fast and the FCS fins make turns much better. $25 each way on the plane. 👌

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Gear Talk / ULI iSUP 10 ft Gerry Lopez

« on: April 04, 2017, 02:14:42 PM »

The ULI Gerry Lopez 10 ft is awesome! Surfing the North Shore- the rails make bottom turns possible!! So fun!!

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Foil SUP / Re: Is GoFoil the Only Option?

« on: February 17, 2017, 07:53:06 PM »

This is so cool! We have been riding the hydrofoil behind boats and making tbars and wings to get 25+ feet off the water!



Had an opportunity to ride with Rush Randle on the North Shore behind a wave runner and use the waves as a kicker. He surfed on a wakeboard with snowboard boots with a foil and landed a flip in the wave. Super Cool!



These surfing tbar applications are much thinner and lighter... interesting...

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Gear Talk / Re: New to Ocean/River Surf SUP

« on: April 30, 2016, 08:17:32 AM »

Thanks for the advice and feedback! I ended up ordering an ULI 10 ft Gerry Lopez with the 25% off so I'm pretty excited. Meg from ULI was great to work with. So the 10 ft Gerry Lopez has fin boxes that take regular fins and has the Wiki rail so that should help keep it on edge.

Last weekend we went down the Spokane River and it was flowing 14,000+ ft/s on the NRS Czar... so I might end up selling that board if anyone is interested. Then again, I think this is what they call starting a 'Quiver'. Looking back, surprised to catch waves on the Czar.

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Gear Talk / Re: New to Ocean/River Surf SUP

« on: April 26, 2016, 06:29:17 PM »

What about the Whip vs. WaveStorm? I'm inland so would need to fly or pack it around...

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Gear Talk / Re: New to Ocean/River Surf SUP

« on: April 24, 2016, 08:49:52 AM »

What fast North Shore waves are you planning to surf?  It will be important that both you and your inflatable have very thick skin. 

I surfed the NRS Czar at break called Leftovers, between Chun's Reef and Waimea Bay. They were 3-5 ft primary swells but when the sets came in almost doubled in size. Very steep and very fast compared to some of the sand breaks on the Oregon Coast. Being inland, need a board that I can travel with easily (iSUP) and grow into so that's why the 9 ft board length looks about right and stop the 'pearling' so I typically don't fall over to the side- novice moving towards intermediate. Thoughts? Preferences? Is anyone in my scenario where they need a surf only iSUP?