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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Axis Foils
« on: September 08, 2021, 07:22:22 PM »
That 999 sounds and looks incredible!  The low stall speed for such a HA wing is the kicker if true.  But 1010 sq cm projected vs ~1200 of my NL160.  Anyone tried one SUP Foiling yet?   

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SUP General / Re: What if I don't size down (volume) enough?
« on: September 07, 2021, 02:26:37 PM »
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Thinking about my current setup again, I realized that my only real beef with the Laird is that it's so heavy (27+lbs) and the handle doesn't allow me to wrap my fingers inward, so it's hard to get it from the parking lot to the waves, which can be quite a distance on most Oregon beaches.  It's also overkill for a rider of my size.  So the first board I'm looking at is the Stylemaster, and I'd say I'm pretty likely to come home with it -- at 19lbs and a with a nicer handle it will be a game changer, to say nothing of the other dimensions, ha ha.

Thanks all for your knowledge and help!

The Pearson Arrows are great boards!  I had a 10'6.  The 9'6x30x122 and 9'0x29.5x113L Terry Chung shaped Lairds that came after the Pearsons are amazing (I think mine weighs ~13.5 lbs)... but alas, Laird doesn't make them anymore.   

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Gear Talk / Re: if you could only have one board (2021 version)
« on: August 26, 2021, 10:54:02 AM »
Like many others, I pretty much solely foil so could put my foil board which could handle any condition... but I suspect this is really about SUP Surfing, so if I am not foiling, my Laird 9'0x29.5x113L does it all from 1 foot to overhead.  Such a perfect size for my 175lbs.  In fact I sold all my other SUPs other than this one and an 8'10 Surrator that doesn't get ridden much at the moment.

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Foil SUP / Re: First kit!
« on: August 21, 2021, 09:14:53 AM »
I am curious on whether your hunch works too, Califoilia.  Look forward to the ride report (and pics!)

Oh and B-Walnut, enjoy the learning process!  Once a lot of us went down the rabbit hole, there was no turning back!

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Foil SUP / Re: First kit!
« on: August 19, 2021, 04:56:52 PM »

In a month or two hopefully I'll be ready to get my own board and am wondering if I'll be ready for a 5'10" 122l or a 5'6" 112l Kalama board? Weighing 185lbs and aiming for SUP foiling in the ocean once I have the wing down...


FWIW, I have two Kalama boards... a 6'0x28x115L and 5'5x29x109L.  Your mileage may vary but for SUP Foiling, personally I found the sweet spot to be 5'10-6'2 to have the right glide to get into waves.  Shorter and I catch less waves because I can't get up to enough speed on the shoulder or have to be way deeper and where the prone surfers are.  I think in one of his Progression Project interviews, James Casey says similar things about shorter than 6'0.  Of course once flying shorter is nice and I know people riding shorter boards that connect 2 or 3 for 1s (or more) once they chip into the first one so they don't mind.   For winging, as I understand it the shorter the better and downwind there seems to be a direction towards longer 6'0+ but narrower.

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Foil SUP / Re: Next wing after Maliko 200 - Progression
« on: August 12, 2021, 06:31:14 AM »
It's frustrating, has anyone worked with shimming the 14.5 flip for more lift?

Yes, I use a washer on the 14.5.

Been riding the KDM 15" the last couple of days in knee to thigh and it's really nice. The shims are too.

Isn't it awesome!?!?  I switched from the 14.5 to the KDM 13.5 and it is amazing!

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Foil SUP / Re: Next wing after Maliko 200 - Progression
« on: August 10, 2021, 01:37:44 PM »

So is there any reason to upgrade?

I chose to stick with my 1.0.  As I understand it, the 1.5 has higher tolerance on the fuselage to fit the new wings but my 1.0 29.5 is pretty close.  There are also different lengths with the plate mounts.  Oh, with regards to stiffness, the 29.5 has a wider chord than the 28.5 so that one is stiffer.  Not sure if the 32.5 and 29.5 plate mount are even wider or same as the 1.0 29.5.  The 1.5 wings are noticeably lighter than 1.0 wings.

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Foil SUP / Re: Next wing after Maliko 200 - Progression
« on: August 10, 2021, 12:56:59 PM »
Anyone that has switched from the 1.0 to 1.5 pedestal, did you stick with the tuttle/plate adapter or just go straight for the plate mount built-in. I'm guessing the 1.5 is stiffer, lighter, etc.?

I was told by Karla that the 1.5 mast and 1.0 are the same weight for the 29.5 and believe it is the same stiffness too.  I imagine the built in plate mount  does save some screw weight.

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I was all in on SUP and had many boards from surf boards, to inflatables to all around to race boards. I started my girls on SUP when they were 3, first on the front of my board then on their own boards.  Given you mentioned surfing, you have a few options but I would recommend a hard board over an inflatable.  I did have a Wavestorm Taquito for my daughters but candidly they are a bit slippery if not waxed and inevitably, my personal Surf SUP (a Laird Surfer 9'0x29.5x113L) just made a lot more sense for them to use and ended up being their goto.  Unfortunately, Laird doesn't make boards anymore but there are quite a bit of options in a similar size including an Infinity New Deal 9.0x28x104L, Starboard Longboard, Sunova, Jimmy Lewis...etc.  If she finds that she likes surfing you can then look at more performance oriented shapes.  Inflatable is fine to start out on and just paddle around but won't surf too well.

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Prone Foiling, Surf foiling, Pump Foiling / Re: FlexSeal
« on: June 28, 2021, 10:05:36 PM »
Easily, at a fraction of the weight. My next wing board will have no pad.

Sold--I'm in!

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Prone Foiling, Surf foiling, Pump Foiling / Re: FlexSeal
« on: June 27, 2021, 02:08:00 PM »
I really like the cork Hexatraction from RSPro. Looks great, with excellent traction and feel.

That looks great, Bill!  Do you think it can replace deck pads?

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Foil SUP / Re: Next wing after Maliko 200 - Progression
« on: June 12, 2021, 10:08:07 PM »
The tail orientation looks right and it should have enough lift however I used the 14.5 pretty exclusively with the 6.5 and can catch the same waves with the GL180 as I did on my M200.

A few other thoughts:
1) As red_tx said, trying the 210 with the original Maliko tail first isn't a bad idea... that tail is I think 22" wide so stepping down to 14.5" will take getting used to
2) High aspect wings are a step down in initial lift from the Maliko 200 but once you are up and flying it has so much more glide
3) I have a friend that had a Flying V and we noticed the board has some tail rocker and a plate shim kit (https://foilmount.com/products/trim-shim-stackable-hydrofoil-shimming-system) helped a great deal especially in small waves
4) Shimming the 14.5" tail (angling down) can also give you more lift but it also will make the 210 turn faster so there is a tradeoff there (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsX89fH0e3Q)

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Foil SUP / Re: Next wing after Maliko 200 - Progression
« on: June 04, 2021, 12:02:20 PM »
Any opinion on the pedestal length 6.5 to 9.5"? Also, I have a flip tip tail that's a 14.5" from a friend, will that work with the GL210 on the GF 1.0 mast?

I have both but use the 6.5 pretty exclusively after I got it and it works great with the 14.5".  Carves so much better but may be a bit more of a learning curve than 9.5".

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Foil SUP / Re: Next wing after Maliko 200 - Progression
« on: May 26, 2021, 07:36:28 PM »
You described my progression. After a year on M200 my first HA wing was GL210. Now I have a quiver of GLs 140 to 240. They are great in my Gulf of Mexico conditions. I think you’re on the right track.
I am sure some will chime in with NL suggestions 😀

Yeah, same board, same progression line. I had one person say go with a 180, but honestly, I have no issues being overcooked with the 200 95% of the time here, I'd rather have plenty of lift than not enough.

I followed much of the same progression as many others here.  Maliko 160->IWA/M200->GL180->NL160.  Weigh 180lbs.  In the GL range, I too am also partial to 180... catches anything from 1 foot bumps up to shoulder/head high (or higher) depending on wave energy. 210 has same width but a bit extra chord and people love it too and since you like the 200 in most conditions you will probably like it.  The following chart was helpful to me as getting good data on the GF wings is hard:  https://gofoilaustralia.com.au/pages/what-foil-for-you 

In the NL line, the NL190 may be an amazing option.  Turns quicker than GL, has more glide, handles bigger drops with an easier lift profile and less work; at the expense of stalling if not at speed.  I think it also has more lift than the 180.  Oh and if considering an upgrade,  the pedestal is a big improvement to the original Maliko tail... the short pedestal and KDMaui 13.5 tail is amazing though the 14.5 GF was a noticeable improvement over the Maliko tail.  Looks like you have great Axis recommendations too--I did try a friend's 910 on the ultrashort and it was amazing too.  Felt like it was in between the GL140 and GL180 and had a big range.

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Foil SUP / Re: Mast loosening while up and gliding
« on: May 20, 2021, 06:11:10 PM »
Fish,

That happened all the time when I was talking my foil off my board everyday until I got the bigger van where board and foil went in all as one. So after the first time of assembling the foil in the Tuttle, hearing the same noise you describe, and finding a loose front screw (rear not so much) upon returning to the beach...but after tightening the screws again, the noise was not heard again and the screws were never loose again until I took the foil off the board sometime later for whatever reason.

My assumption was that we really can't tighten the screws enough to truly set the Tuttle mast into the board's receiver no matter what we do in the beach, and the creaking, cracking sounds we're hearing is simply the upward forces of the flying foil being pushed up into the mast, and seating it further up into the receiver, and why the screw(s) loosen and need to be tightened to take up that new "slack" of that shortened distance of foil in receiver.

I'm now riding an adapter in tracks w/o a Tuttle in the board because I really like the extra 3" of mast, and true or not...it "feels" to be more solid, but that could just be more confirmation bias on my part.  :-[ :)

Yeah, so same thing is happening to me, except it's so loose that I can see it flexing inside the tuttle. I can literally feel it cavating under me standing on it. So........I'm going to try and get a plate mount, in the meantime, has anyone shim'ed it with some foil tape to tighten it up?

Bill's suggestion of fender washers is a good one.  I also noticed that my foil shipped with different sized screws.  The longer ones leave room for movement but the slightly shorter ones did not have a problem.

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