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Finally managed to collect the board and bar a good few paddle marks on the rails its a pretty stunning board. I'll try and get some photos up, probably over the weekend as I'm off to the other end of the country with work tomorrow.  :-\

The shape is pretty insane to be fair. All the width is up around the shoulder say a third of the way back from the tip. From then on it's a long and gently curved taper to the tail which is almost like a needle. Step too far back on it and your toes and heel will be in the water at the same. It's that sharp. Then the underside has these two deep concaves, the rails become increasingly sharp towards the rear with chines further forward. It's long and looks extremely narrow and just screams speed

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Hey congrats Noo ...

Thanks still got to go and get it but I'm buzzing about trying it that's for sure.


It will be perfect for that. It’s a high performance board, but an extremely versatile and easy to use one.

That's good to know. Lot's of bases covered and something I can develop with.

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personally I'm hoping that this board will give me a lot of scope in use to be honest.

I'm lucky to have some nice coastlines to explore from time to time and I've also seen a few occasions where surfers have been sat on boards chewing the crud while sup surfers actually have some fun catching the dribbles. Then when it does pick up a bit it's still there as an option.

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Haha! I tried to buy that Applewood 11-6 but you’d already put a deposit down on it!

And no, I’m not Richard. I’m not connected to the company in any way.

Well, if you don’t like your applewood, at least you now know who you could sell it on to! I bought the 11-6 I mentioned for my son, because I liked the 12-6 so much. But I found that I liked the 11-6 so much I want one myself also.... that applewood would have been a good solution for me, although the logistics would have been extremely difficult for me too.

Ian Foo might make me a custom, perhaps. The shipping and taxes would make it crazy expensive though. Otherwise I’ll now have to wait until the next shipment in the autumn.

Glad that I got my act together for once!! Just need to apply that logic to the rest of my life now!

I have actually found a courier in the UK that will ship boards now. Not cheap but it is doable which is a change from last time looked. Sadly in this case the seller wasn't willing to box it up so it will mean a drive.

A few scratches here and there but still a stunning board and I'll be honest I prefer the look if the Applewood veneer than the Rosewood.

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Well I do need to thank you for the advice given on my other thread.

I did contact Hypr in he UK, and had some good correspondence with Richard and he advised the 11'6" (as you had done, you're not the same person are you)?

Anyway, I  ummed and aahed about it for while as while I certainly understand the quality here, I had to really think about budget. Then from out of no where I found a second hand one that was a couple of hours away from home. It's in Applewood.

The logistics of collecting it is still a bit of a mare thanks to work and other upcoming commitments but I'll just have to pull my finger out somehow and then get it on the water, rain, shine whatever.

Now at 28.5" wide I'd have never have gone for this without some input from here and discussions with Hypr themselves.

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I have an 11' 6" to go and collect at some point.

Just need to sort my life out and actually go and get it. It's waiting for me.

I'll post up my thoughts when I collect and manage to get out on it. I'm really inexperienced and also suffer with conditions that most people wouldn't even bother with so it might give a slightly different perspective on them.

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You mention Nahskwell,  the parent company makes the sealion series.  Available in Europe.  I own a 8'3 and 9' sealion.  Both great to surf in crap conditions.  (they windsurf well also)  And very forgiving.  Only 29.5" wide but super wide fish tail makes it stable to stand on.  The new 8'6 wings would be an option that gets you foiling if you ever go that route.  JP

Thanks for the suggestion. I've seen these but simply discounted them thinking they were for advanced surfers. No harm in looking into them but as a kitesurfer any thoughts of windsurfing is a big no no.  ;)

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Thanks for the input.

Your logic seems sound and I have in fact been looking at anything 10' 10'6" and over to honest although I do admit there is a bit of length snobbery going on which I do need to shake off. Volume wise I haven't been too bothered unless it starts dipping below 150L as that starts to indicate that a board is a real performance machine and not for someone at my level.

Dealing with chop is an issue so stability is key as well as getting enough glide onto, what is normally a really messy wave. Thinking about it there's very little point in me getting a board that will thrive in head and half clean waves. A) I'm unlikely to see those conditions and B) I'd probably drown.

So I'm looking for some kind of Utopia board I guess. Super stable in chop, good glide, and a board I can grow with and not have to sell on in a year or so.

The big problem I have now is actually finding some useful information on each of the above boards. It's a tough ask. A demo would be great but far from practical. Information on boards seems to be really thin on the ground as far as real world thoughts and discussions and even in some cases proper reviews.

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Thought I'd keep this thread going as I'm still looking round, getting confused, changing my mind, going back through this thread etc etc.

Updated list is:
JP hanalei 10'8" - I am a bit concerned with the width on this though - only 29"
JP longboard - 10' 6"
Fanatic Fly 10' 6"
Hypr Nalu - take your pick there
Loco Inca 11' - Price is good
Naish Nalu 11' or so. There's so many to choose from!!

I've also found this which looks an extremely interesting shape and there is always part of me that likes the quirky

https://www.nahskwell-sup.com/en/boards/fluid/

Anyone know anything about this board? As usual its slim pickings

They also do a Longboard which I can get a decent price - 10'6" 29" wide (tad narrow perhaps) 142L. This one could be a bit too performance orientated again.

Gong do not do an 11' NFA anymore. 10' is their longest which might still be enough. There is also the 10'6" Perv pr larger but finding stuff out is again proving awkward.

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It’s a shame that Gong aren’t selling any of their 11ft NFAs right now. I have one, and it is an excellent board at a totally bargain price. Which is probably exactly why there aren’t any available any more... You could ask them when they next expect some in? At the price they sell them, and the excellent construction, it’s kinda a no-brainer: A SUP retailer of another brand recently said to me “I just don’t know how they do them so cheap”. And they are high-performance shapes, not beginner barges. Performance, excellent construction, and bargain price: it’s a kinda SUP owners’ dream, isn’t it? I have the 12-6 Gong Perv as well, and it’s amazing how well it surfs. It’s made many a crappy choppy windy session fun for me. It cost me 600 pounds GBP delivered! (I got one in the end of year sale.) Rock solid full wood sandwich construction with carbon-Kevlar rails. For 600, delivered... it’s surprisingly fast as a flat water tourer too, given that it is a surf-type shape. It actually surfs better than several 11ft surf SUPs I’ve tried. I’ve even thought about buying the 10-6 version in the new full PVC sandwich bombproof construction... it would probably surf really well and get into waves easily. But I’ve already bought 2 new SUPs this year already :)

Just thought I'd focus on this bit if I may, to get the thread back on track.

No 11' NFA's at the moment but I have sent them a message this morning. Same with the 10'6" Perv's.

Forgive me if I'm slightly confused but the Perv is labelled as their cruiser board with some surfing ability / basically a real mix. How is this different to the JP Hybrid which you advised to avoid. I'm just trying to figure out the difference or what makes one a better option than the other, especially as you own one of them. On paper they appear very similar apart from the Gong being far lower in volume

Starboard does have resale value, so if a nice used one crossed your path ...
A10’s Naish 11’ suggestion is a good thought. It has a good surf reputation.

Agreed that the Starboards do have a good following and are easier to sell later. But I'm certainly no fan of their bottom level construction.

Only seen and heard good things about the Naish. Any second hand one's sell very quickly too and they don't come up that often. 

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My JP longboard hasn’t chipped. So far. Despite being used by friends. But I did rail tape it from new.

I don’t know anything about the Loco. It’s a good price, and the dimensions seem about right. But how much does it weigh? Is the rocker maybe a bit flat for choppy conditions surfing? (However, flatter rocker boards do get into waves more easily.)

It’s a shame that Gong aren’t selling any of their 11ft NFAs right now. I have one, and it is an excellent board at a totally bargain price. Which is probably exactly why there aren’t any available any more... You could ask them when they next expect some in? At the price they sell them, and the excellent construction, it’s kinda a no-brainer: A SUP retailer of another brand recently said to me “I just don’t know how they do them so cheap”. And they are high-performance shapes, not beginner barges. Performance, excellent construction, and bargain price: it’s a kinda SUP owners’ dream, isn’t it? I have the 12-6 Gong Perv as well, and it’s amazing how well it surfs. It’s made many a crappy choppy windy session fun for me. It cost me 600 pounds GBP delivered! (I got one in the end of year sale.) Rock solid full wood sandwich construction with carbon-Kevlar rails. For 600, delivered... it’s surprisingly fast as a flat water tourer too, given that it is a surf-type shape. It actually surfs better than several 11ft surf SUPs I’ve tried. I’ve even thought about buying the 10-6 version in the new full PVC sandwich bombproof construction... it would probably surf really well and get into waves easily. But I’ve already bought 2 new SUPs this year already :)
My JP has a couple of scratches and that was taped from new. It's the untaped bits but I am a bit clumsy at times.

I'm not sure that Gong actually make anything longer than 10' now. There's absolutely nothing on their website about them. And that's the only reason why I've not looked at them any further.

RE the Loco, it's pretty flat I believe but does have a little kick front and back but pearling is a possible issue. That's based on the 2017 model though. They might have tweaked things since then as suggested in another review I've seen.

QUOTE
"The Inca has a low rocker nose that aids early entry into waves – it also helps the Inca track well. Worth keeping in mind, however, is to accurately locate the paddling sweet spot as too far forward will result in its nose burying. Same when taking off on steeper waves.

Glide is admirable. There’s a fair bit of tail kick – designed to lock into swell faces – which will require some unsticking. A few deep and powerful paddle strokes will see riders right. With a high stroke cadence SUPers can pick up waves early and the Inca accelerates progressively. A deep concave runs through the hull of the Inca, which helps when cross stepping, while a larger central fin and tail hold in the pocket well."

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I have seen somewhere about the paint chipping thing with Fanatics. Cant say I noticed it with the Allwave I had, but it is obviously a thing.

I wish I could get somewhere to try both to be honest.

I looked at Gong but the biggest board they seem to do at the moment is the 10' NFA.

JP Longboard looks like a possible option. I need to look into it more. I'm not a huge fan of their AST construction though. Chips and stuff far too easily for my liking. Much like your Fanatics maybe?

Loco also have a good deal on an ex demo Inca  which is encouraging purely from that perspective. The size appears good at 11' x 30.5" and 160L but it's a bit slim pickings on the info side again.

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Cheers again Area10

I'm also reluctant  to go with Starboard to be honest. I have a friend that swears by them but I had one of their models delaminate on me and I had and awful time going through the warranty claim with them. To finish it all off I had to cut the board in half and what I saw didn't fill me with much joy at all. I felt the level of construction was pretty poor, even though it was their bottom level of construction at the time there was naff all in it.

Agree on the JL B&B machine. I'm intrigued by it but not enough to go all out on one at this stage of my Sup surfing development.

The Stylemaster is tempting as of all the boards I've listed the Fly and Stylemaster are available at the best price but as you rightly say I am concerned that it might be a step too far at this stage.

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Hi All

Just thought an update would be worthwhile just to say where I'm at. Sadly I'm typing this as I'm working (again) on a Sunday afternoon. This remains an issue.

My current thinking is the Fusion stays for now and will get used for those days where conditions will suit it. I am however considering a larger boat that will cope with the poor slack conditions that prevail this part of the world, particularly in he Summer and also allow for development of my skills during the choppy wind blown days that I also encounter. Plus having a family board is no bad thing either right?

So boards that have a similar outline to the Fusion are out but also probably the short squarer shapes that also excel in the small slack surf. I'm no where near the level required for one of them. Maybe one day.

So thus far I'm basically producing lists of boards that seem to fit the bill and are available here in the UK. The list is not finalized by any means and I'm still open to suggestions.

So here's my list so far

Fanatic Fly 10' 6"
Fanatic Stylemaster 10' 6"
Jimmy Lewis  Hanelei 10'8"
Jimmy Lewis Black and Blue Machine  (it's on the list out of pure intrigue more than anything else) 10' 2"
Hypr Nalu Malolo or Hele.
Loco Inca 11'
Naish Nalu 10' 6"
JP Hybrid - 10'8" which seems to be something completely different again but might be moving too far away from the surfing side.

I'm scouring round for suggestions and info so anything anyone can add is always welcome. I'm still looking round at what Sunova, Starboard and even RRD have around and what will be suited.

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Purely out of interest what is the bottom shape on this board?

I'm wondering if there's any comparison that can be made to the JP Hybrid which seems to be a bit of a touring shape up front but an out an out surf shape to the rear?

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