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Random / Re: I've got two stories in Men's Journal. Support print. Go buy!

« on: January 25, 2011, 06:15:54 AM »

My wife enjoyed the article about Jason 

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Gear Talk / Re: Naish Hokua 7.8

« on: January 25, 2011, 03:29:40 AM »

dw, so what about mana 9'? obsolete now? do u keep it or selling it?

Keep it. There will be days when the Mana is better, especially this summer.

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Gear Talk / Re: Naish Hokua 7.8

« on: January 24, 2011, 10:54:53 AM »

For most a faster rocker line for East-Coast type waves.  I surf in Me and NH.  

My first concern is the volume. I'm 5'10 and at 185 to 188... Heavy maybe for a board with 115 Liters

Dan

Forget comparing volume numbers, the 7'8 works for me at 188 lbs with wool lined Patagonia wetsuit. Probably 200+ lbs on it in full Winter gear. Plus I'm a gawky clumsy 6'2 and 56 years old. I surfed 2 hours Sunday morning in 24 degrees. My legs are sore today. I felt totally comfortable for 2 solid hours and never once thought I needed something bigger.

The 7'8 has some magic mojo going on with its volume distribution that makes it way easier to deal with than it should be  

Regarding speed, this is THE ticket baby  
It has changed everything for me. SUPing will never be the same. If you could see the 500 photos a day my wife snaps of my surfing, it would blow your mind. I'm dropping into wave after wave that would normally end in a short ride, then a take-down by the wave closing out. Now when I look at photo sequence shots, I see myself dropping into suicide waves and the lip never comes close to getting me. The ride ends up being so long, its almost like we have real waves (reef break). And when the wave does close out, I can for real, make it past the whitewater and back into clean sections and keep going. I'll never go back to boards over 8 feet again, except when surfing the offshore mush at the inlet.

For beach break surfing the 7'8 is our salvation  

The jump from 9'5 to 7'8 is too much though. You need some training on something in between.

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Gear Talk / Re: quad fin setup

« on: January 24, 2011, 06:44:10 AM »

On a Quad front fins get measured off the rail and the rear fins from the center line or stringer. For a consistant feel and performance the rear fins must have a relative distance between them but its something they have to figure out. Alot of the boards I see out there with quads have placement I would consider in the wrong places and could benefit greatly by proper placement. I do not tow to the nose with a straight edge I figure it with a formula, I also put 1/8th" less tow in the trailers on a quad than on the front fins and 2 degree less cant/camber. I have spent years refining the quad and have it dialed in pretty good.
 I personally use FCS MR-tx front and Q-1 rears in plastic do not like the glass or carbon composit fins a more flexable fin has more life.

But hey you eat what you like and I will eat what I llike...

I debated using a specific value to get less tow in the rear, but found projecting to the nose naturally gave me less tow in the rear and it came out about the same using either method. I also do a 2 degree cant difference. So far, I'm not impressed with any quads I've surfed with rears close to the stringer. The Stretch style fin placement feels best to me. Do you like your rears in or out? I've got a theory........

Shapers who don't like quads tend to place the rears in, shapers who love quads go out

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Gear Talk / Re: proper transport for carbon raceboard

« on: January 24, 2011, 06:34:02 AM »

When strapping deck down, take care not to crush raised ridge left by deck concave.

I have extra thick pads to engage full deck and not just raised ridge.

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Gear Talk / Re: Deck Pad Coming up from front

« on: January 24, 2011, 03:30:16 AM »

I use 3M 77.   Haven't tried 90 yet.

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Gear Talk / Re: Deck Pad Coming up from front

« on: January 23, 2011, 06:50:21 PM »

You got it right. 3M spray adhesive.

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Gear Talk / Re: quad fin setup

« on: January 23, 2011, 12:06:03 PM »

I just bought the Naish Hokua 8"0 and I want to set it up as a quad. Any fin combination suggestions.

Have you installed the boxes yet? I've quaded a few Naish boards.

I set the rears 7 7'8 behind the fronts and in off the rail 1/4" more than whatever I measured the fronts off the rail. Toe was set to the same point the front fins projected to near the nose.

I think Blane once posted he's doing 7 7'8 behind the front and 1 3/8 off the rail. C4 does about 8 1/8 behind the fronts and close to what Blane does off the rail.

These dimensions worked well for me.

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Gear Talk / Re: quad fin setup

« on: January 23, 2011, 03:30:00 AM »

Beware of GL quads and Futures Controllers. They are magic fins for "some" boards and slow and stiff on others.

It depends on how well the Coreban rails and shape work. If it doesn't need those huge fins to work, you don't want them. Normal fins will be faster and looser.

I'd start with a normal set. Maybe simple Vector IIs about 4 5/8 in the front with 400 symmetric rears. That's a standard common set of Futures you can find almost anywhere. And not very expensive.

I'd buy PSH quads before I'd buy Controllers. The front fin in the Controllers set stiffens some boards up. The PSH sets uses the Controllers rear fin with a Pancho front. A better fin set.

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Events / Re: The cost of the 2011 Cold Stroke Classic

« on: January 22, 2011, 03:50:48 PM »

PS,  My son Jace is looking at the 7'3" Hokua.  Maybe we could come up from OI and test drive the 7'3" and 7'8" sometime.

Best, Dan

You can definitely try them.

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Events / Re: The cost of the 2011 Cold Stroke Classic

« on: January 22, 2011, 11:26:36 AM »

How's the downwinding been on the lake? I've been waiting for some of the Charlotte crew to post some downwinding photos. Maybe they are all windsurfing when it's windy?

Lake Norman must be a challenge to setup car retrieval on a downwinder. You have to drive many miles to reach places on the lake that can be only 2 miles away by line of site.

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Gear Talk / Re: quad fin setup

« on: January 22, 2011, 05:02:19 AM »

I just looked at the fusion quad placement. The rear fins are moved in off the rail, more toward the stringer. That is like my Naish. I just finished up my quad fin search. With that fin placement, FCS recommends a 50/50 foil on the real fin. When rears are near the rail, FCS says flat inside or 80/20 foil. That tip is on the FCS web site.

Now that you know, in theory, the right rear fin is a 50/50 foil you'll find FCS only makes 2 rear fins like this. The G-X and Stretch SF4.

That leaves us with the Q-7Xc and Stretch SF4 "sets" as the most appropriate. I currently own both sets. I've tested the SF4 and just got the Q-7Xc. I'll know the winner after a few more sessions.

The reason (I believe) FCS recommends a 50/50 foil for our quad placement, is this quad placement is used when a shaper wants his quads to feel more like a thruster. A hybrid feel, the best of both. With the fins being closer to center, the foil should be like a thruster, 50/50.

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Technique / Re: Getting on the tail

« on: January 20, 2011, 03:02:27 PM »

I have surfed a lot of different SUPs.

I was told the same thing when I complained about a particular shape.

I stand where the board needs me to stand, all by feel. I can't force myself to surf from someplace on the board that won't allow it for the given moment.

When I tried a different shape, my problem was solved.

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Random / Re: I've got two stories in Men's Journal. Support print. Go buy!

« on: January 17, 2011, 06:59:47 PM »

I'll tell the wife. She's in love with Jason. We'll be going to his new movie too.

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Random / Re: Spooky-O

« on: January 16, 2011, 08:51:11 AM »

I wonder how famous people manage to hide?

Robby Naish lives in South Dakota  

Robert sure has a lot of grass to mow. Wow, big estate.