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I added a series on knee starts to my Learn to foil course:

"In this video series I show and explain how to go from kneeling to flying, on both low aspect foil wings and high aspect foil wings.  The windier it is usually the rougher the water is and the harder it is to stand up.  The first four videos are with a high aspect wing at different locations around the San Francisco Bay in 12 to 40mph winds.  The fifth video shows my beginner setup: giant board, foil, and wing and how I bypassed the knee start on such stable and easy to fly gear.  The sixth video shows how I moved down to a smaller low aspect foil, boards, and wing and explains how I did both standing and knee starts.  Both heel side and toe side starts are shown and explained in close up detail so you can see what my feet, hands, and body are doing to stay balanced and get flying."

Hope this helps!  Any questions please ask.

Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Measuring Foil Angles
« on: December 26, 2020, 08:15:01 AM »
Thanks for sharing another way to measure this.  Stab angle can be such a game changer and knowing where one is at is super helpful.

I looked into a trying to find something off the shelf and didn't find anything.  I ended up making something out of wood like the eflite that straddles the fuse and then put a digital angle meter on it.  Now I know how much each hotel key card shim changes the angle.

Wow those boats are so trippy looking, the panning shots show how fast they are going.

Refreshing to see the crowd of spectators living like humans.

Foil SUP / Re: Takuma LOL v KUJIRA
« on: December 21, 2020, 01:27:55 PM »
Thanks, I appreciate more info on these wings.

My (talking out of my butt) understanding is the angle of incidence on the front wing is lower or less lift then most wings.  And since the fuse is a tapered fit the simple way to change is mast wedging.  Pumpers tend to like a more springy or bouncy feel.  Since I'm not after a pump wing I'm wondering if I might like this foil stock?

Thanks, saved me $500 (resale hit).

I've been burned three times at various resale penalties and reluctant to try more 7m wings.

Next on my "I hope some other sucker tests this wing" list is Takoon 7m, I hear they are light but look ridiculously wide...

Foil SUP / Re: Foil Videos
« on: December 19, 2020, 10:58:49 AM »
Fun swell with Johnny and Mickey flying circles around everyone.   I am surprised by how fast Johnny is moving both pumping and surfing.  He switched his surf foil setup and I didnít notice until watching the video:

Foil SUP / Re: Takuma LOL v KUJIRA
« on: December 18, 2020, 10:20:35 AM »
This is very interesting to me, thanks for sharing.

From the videos and reports I have heard it seems like the 980 has way more lift than its stated area.  Do the whale flukes make it difficult or different to measure and get an apples to apples lift comparison?

Any other wings you can compare the top end lift limit to?  The gofoil kai? 

Watching your tow video I couldn't get a feel for how big the faces were.  Watching the Progression Project videos Erik is in tiny surf and seems like he has plenty of lift on the 980.

I am looking for a mid-high aspect wing with less lift.  I have both high and low aspect wings around 1250 area and they both have a similar top end limit/red line where they become difficult to keep down and in the water.

Foil SUP / Re: Personal tow in
« on: December 18, 2020, 10:08:15 AM »
Foiling keep getting better and better.

Towing in to unbroken waves without a noisy stinky jetski sounds rad!  Super stoked to see where this goes.

Foil SUP / Re: Do 4-in-1 foil boards have too many compromises?
« on: December 18, 2020, 10:06:22 AM »
Early on my converted foil sup board was doable, or said another way a dedicated foil sup probably wouldn't have helped much.

After I knew how to foil I did a trip to Maui and foiled a dedicated foil board for 10 days, a little tippy at first but wow the foil came up quick and swing weight was hardly noticeable.   When I came home and foiled my converted sup it felt like a tank that was stuck in molasses, and once i got up the swing weight felt out of control and just awful.  After a couple days I re-acclimated to the converted board, but wow the dedicated foil board I had on order couldn't get made fast enough.

I can't imagine trying to surf my dedicated foil boards, way to short and the volume distribution would be terrible. 

Yeah I agree a lot of this stuff is super confusing.  Especially trying to go by jargon and photos which leave more questions than answers.

Going to a kite/windsurf shop where they have a wall of harnesses allows one to see the full gamut of what's available, and specifically feel the weight and flex of the different brands.

Basically a full kite harness is way overkill for me and heavy.  A belt or the v1 of the ozone is to flexy for me, I find the chameleon to be close, maybe a little less support could be good.  Hooks are very secure J shape, the roller is more L shape and the line comes out easier and "trims(?)" the wing with less resistance.

Personal preference plays a big factor and hard to know what one likes until trying a few...

Dakine Roller bar:

Hey, yes Stretch in SC, and thanks.


Jeff Clark was after the same thing with his claw (pretty sure his design predates the custom I had made):

I agree 1 million percent with Cowboy.

Refreshing this with a wind noob question.

Do the DAkine Chameleons come with a hook or do you buy that separately? The sites donít seem to mention this.

From what I have seen it depends, for sale with and without hook.  Someone told me Dakine is getting out of harness making, if so then would guess the chameleons getting harder to find...I swapped out the included hook with a roller and much prefer the ease of adjusting the wing to match what the wind is doing.

I have not sup surfed in a while, a couple sessions tandeming on a inflatable with my son, other than that it's been years.

The last custom Stretch I ordered had a stinger tail, that was a total game changer for me.  I needed way less footwork to turn and could turn much tighter.  So much more control that I felt comfortable mixing it up in a pack of prone surfers.  Shaper and I kept the tail pull in moderate out of concern it would be to tippy.  After the first wave I knew I could get away with a narrower tail and I believe I could achieve more short board like turns without going to a ridiculously small board.  If foiling didn't exist I would be chasing that dragon.

I would keep looking for a good deal on a well respected used wing and snatch one up.  And if you want to sell do so in the spring without much of a loss.  That way covered and don't have to sit on the sidelines.

Environment / Re: pruning kelp at a reef break?
« on: December 01, 2020, 10:07:21 AM »
Curious about thoughts on this also.

Most of Santa Cruz is unfoilable because of the kelp.
Beginning of fall cowells is mine field on the first couple big swells.  Takes a day or so to clear out of the lineup.

Seems like swells will tear up the kelp anyway, what's the harm in going out the day before and clearing a 20 yard take off zone?  If this was destructive to the ecosystem I would say no way.

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