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SUP General / Re: RUSTY=anti-sup?
« on: January 14, 2011, 12:43:28 PM »
Hey, I know the rules of surfing and I get dropped in on by hodads on longboards and shortboards, thinking they're cool dropping in on the SUPer.  I've even had 'em try to push me off my board.  It don't work that way.  I'm riding and they're swimming.  No violence, those fools were just out-surfed.
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"Hey", is how you converse? Same way in the water too? Name calling? "it doesn't work that way. I'm riding and they're swimming" Keep perpetuating, the ugliness thats out there & the ME, ME, ME attitude.
old"BALD" hodad

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SUP General / Re: RUSTY=anti-sup?
« on: January 14, 2011, 10:54:49 AM »
From experience, most that are new to standup are unable to even paddle competently get into the lineup when they are starting out, let alone thinking catching a wave at the bigger and busier spots
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Bingo! We have a winner!  But they DO, get into the line up and have NO idea of what there doing. The surfboad shops take the cash, say, "have a nice day", ching,ching and another uninformed person is thrown into the boiling pot. I'm only takling about surfing and not what they do on lakes, or the more inland waterways. You gentlemen who are complaining about the Rusty ad need to take responsibility for your sport of SUPing. Educate the newbies, not just give them a 5 minute speel, give them the rules of the road, the basics of SURFING.
How many of you surf'd, BEFORE taking up SUP riding? Do any of you know, the basic rules of surfing. There aren't that many. It's not that hard. Why aren't these being taught by you gentlemen if you find the Rusty ad not to your liking.
Educate, before paddles start swinging, people start getting hurt, going to the Hospital and lawyers getting involved.
A hui hou

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SUP General / Re: RUSTY=anti-sup?
« on: January 12, 2011, 06:38:52 PM »
Big Blue, c'mon. Reading comprehension 101. Where oh where, in my postingw have I encouraged bullying tactics or beat downs. I'm talking 50 years ago, that if I didn't tow the line, then I was told that my actions were unacceptable or I was cuff'd behind the ear, like slapping your own head and getting rid of a fly. It seems now days, if you try and convey simple words to someone, your told to piss off and mind your own business. Of course, there are other options then, certainly not mine to take advantage of. Hell, I'm on Medicare (lol). All I've been trying to say, if you don't educate the bozo's, then you deserve what you get out in the water. If the Surf Shops / manufactures don't step up and help educate "the newbies" then this poop, will continue untill some truely get hurt.

Same for the guy up in Canada selling snowboard equipment. Take the $$$ to the bank, cut um loose on a hill, the kids runs into someone because he's unable to CONTROL, his equipment. Perhaps the "SELLER, should be liable as well as they "rider"?


Lots to think about Big Blue.

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SUP General / Re: RUSTY=anti-sup?
« on: January 12, 2011, 02:29:12 PM »
Nobody does the minor physical corrections these days because:
A. The little bastards will find nine ways to press charges
B. If they don't do that they might drive by and cap your ass
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HowZit Bill,
Why o why is that Bill? Parenting? Lack of dicipline? No time for the kids?
Chasing the $$$? Brow beat by the kid for  a cell phone or a car? 75 cents an hour to get my first car, a 40 Ford coupe. These kids are too hip to work @ Macdonalds, yet they want this & they want that. Hell, now ya got me lost in all my ramblings.

I suppose point being, lack of educations for the "new" surfers, whatever they ride and yet they expect that they can just get on the freeway and drive like idiots. So folks get yelled at and once again, somebodys on the beach duking it out. Why?


Because the old guys aren't helping the new kids on the block so everything still runs rampant. Diff, and a few others had no problem getting in my ear or my face and correcting my bad behaivior. Nobody steps up today and say, "Thats not accepted around here".

Sad.  Take Care

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SUP General / Re: RUSTY=anti-sup?
« on: January 12, 2011, 12:49:02 PM »
Quik still needs help after their Rossi ski fiasco...
Waterman collections may be the only thing saving them at this tme

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SUP General / Re: RUSTY=anti-sup?
« on: January 12, 2011, 12:01:24 PM »
Big Blue
Same here, but Father worked for Pan American Airways, but Mother never had a problem in setting me straight with a wooden clothes hanger.
A swat behind the head from doing something stupid always drove the point home for me when in the water. I don't condone violence, but it seems to be leaning in that direction on a daily basis, because of NOT being educated properly. Kids or ADULTS. 11 pages here and no ones learned anything yet. Whiners. Circle the wagons. Shortboarders are coming.

Admire you for being and Educator. Lord knows, it's an uphill battle for you on a daily basis.

cheers!

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SUP General / Re: RUSTY=anti-sup?
« on: January 12, 2011, 11:04:58 AM »
So Big Blue? Your Parents never spanked you when you were a kid? I was taught politeness, Please & Thank you's, pass the butter dish , Please. You may controll what happens in your class room, but once outside, the kids are on a different roll.

Same for adults. If no instruction is given, then they as well, run rampant, as out in the ocean. Take a look for yourself, its a zoo. Words of advise, a helping hand, I'm all for it. But an out of controll driver on the 405 is another thing indeed, same in the ocean.

do your job and educate in the classroom and the ocean. I still try everyday, and, without the cracks.

cracks = a cuff on the back of the head with a "what are you doing"?
not a Cali Wedge beatdown that you seem to be pushing at .... which seems to go on alot now days.

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SUP General / Re: RUSTY=anti-sup?
« on: January 12, 2011, 08:49:49 AM »
Today's kids came after you too, right?  No history, reap what you sow, fat wallets.  Lots of negativity.  Carry on.
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Big Blue
There were 8 pages of negativity before I posted up. So you expect me to teach EVERY kid that came up behind me? Your a hoot. That like saying that school teachers don't have enough to do already and you have a dozen more kids,for her class to teach.

My point is Education. Bottom line, Surf Shops are in to make a $$, they give you Aloha when you walk in the door, stroke you better than a hooker could in a dirty ally way, grope you  one last time, send you on your way, and never TAUGHT you how to get that "good ole feeling" yet once again.
She never taught you, You never learned.

Surf shops as well as the manufactures need / should at least, have basic instructions on the use & handling of any surfing craft. Why? Because 50 years ago, there weren't the crowds that are here today. Again, there is no information, no instructions, no rules of the road that SHOULD be provided so no one becomes injured.


And if you go back and look at the names that I provided, those mentors who gave me cracks when I needed one hopefully made me a better person in the water. If none of them ring a bell, then we are, of a different time period.

Cheers

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SUP General / Re: RUSTY=anti-sup?
« on: January 11, 2011, 07:00:21 PM »
i didnt know waikiki had a dairy queen??...is there still one in ala moana or is there another one now???
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before your time, Roller, 50 & early 60's. Ask your Uncles about "umbrellas" too. Waikiki beachboys breakfast stop, before raking the beach & officially opening it up every morning. Small kine history lesson, yet still a part of the overall picture. There is no history for some here, just fat wallets.

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SUP General / Re: Getting your dog to SUP
« on: January 11, 2011, 11:43:58 AM »
I saw Billy Hamilton & his dog Sava, out at Hanalei Bay surfing on a fair sized day. Billy was without a paddle, but on a SUP sized board. Pretty neat to watch, with the dog stoked and barking, through the Bowl.

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SUP General / Re: RUSTY=anti-sup?
« on: January 11, 2011, 10:21:51 AM »
perhaps Big Blue, perhaps, but the kids that came before and after me KNEW, the Rules of the Road in surfing and we were taught by the likes of Diffenderfer, Noll, Curren, Buff, Rabbit, Trent & etc. We were taught properly and held up our end of the bargain as we were taught. Cracks just came with the territory Then.

Perhaps your just sour because you, dropped the ball or maybe just a bit thin skinned?
And like you said, its a sport. Football, Baseball, Soccer, Bandminton. You get called out, if you mess up and taught what the proper procedures are in the selective sport, whatever that may be. You say, due to the cracks it's gotten messy. I say, due to the lack of Parenting, it's a mess. Kids running rampant, without any direction. Same for surfing. A lack of dicipline & teaching. A lack of respect, for the sport that they chosen. It's a hobby to them. Not a lifestyle that some of us, have chosen.

Carry on

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SUP General / Re: RUSTY=anti-sup?
« on: January 11, 2011, 09:24:31 AM »
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Kids now days
They do the damdest things

You guys in the late 70's & through the 80's up untill today dropped the ball with a lack of Teaching the kids behind you what surfing was / is about.
Fun, respect, pecking order and cracks, if you acted up. If nothing else, you got a pink belly or "pants" & most certainly embarrased with your backside hanging out for all your friends to see.

You all set the tone, for what surfing is today. Reap what you sow

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SUP General / Re: RUSTY=anti-sup?
« on: January 10, 2011, 04:04:05 PM »
Surfer's never whined in the 50's & 60's, they just went about there business, put there heads down and went surfing. What the hell happened?
 
Lack of "authority", pecking order, lawyers, seem to have been tossed into the mix now. If you could hold your own in the line up then, you were allowed to stay, if not, you were downgraded to a smaller break untill such time that you could prove, your worth in better surf breaks or sent to the beach, so as not to endanger anyone in the water. What the heck happened?

Shortboards came along, and everything that surfing WAS, clearly went out the door or should I say, the door swung wide open and respect went out the door for the gentlemen before you. A wild party if you will began and has never stopped. The Pecking order, the idea that surfers should pass their knowledge down to the gremmie so as to perpetuate the sport, went out the door. Sad really. Now it's a free for all and nobody knows the true history of surfing. Folks think surfing is from "Cali" and Snooki surfs. Cali never held up there end of the bargin is all.

A lack of ocean knowledge now days. A me, me, me attitude has taken over. A lack of knowing your equip[ment, but your able to afford a $1500.00
water toy, so you should just be able to get right into the mix of things without knowing what your doing.


I just hope you Gentlemen don't get caught up in the Sarah Palin bullseye as well .... Longboards, shorboards, kayaks, SUP's. It's not the board... just the attitude of the surfer.

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You also may want to consider, Leptospirosis, due to the dirty water. Flu like symptoms, 104-105 degrees constantly untill a Doctor is seen, which they can make a bad call on since its not heard about too often.

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