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  Riding on the Indian River around Sebastian Inlet (FL) yesterday with gusts to maybe 33ish on my 4m echo.

Wait, what....you’re in Florida?

Everyone was at Ft Pierce yesterday. Behind the jetty. This was the wind sensor there.



You should go there in a N to NE. Super easy fun ocean place. Don’t go there today. They show it a tick trending NW. It’s gusty in that direction.

This was yesterday. Harry is on a 3.0m

https://www.instagram.com/p/CKmuP47rstw/?igshid=1rffpla9mygv5

Great! I really have no clue about riding spots down here. We don’t have decent jetties to work with in the OBX so dealing with shore break is the only choice. That looks like a piece of cake for this ole whimp.  Staying at Long Point Park north of Sebastian Inlet (in the new camper) and just figuring out riding spots now. Will try and hook up with Caribsurf today just south of Sebastian Inlet for some west wind River riding. 

So nice riding without gloves, hood and booties! This was a session on the 29th (?) with a 5m at the Sebastian Inlet SP River side. Shaking off the rust of almost no riding since mid Nov! It’s been a tough winter (quick Covid stint, parent with failing health)

https://youtu.be/5_H4kg5LjJI




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Seems sensible....the 5' works, but the 5'4" opens up ease of use just that little bit extra perhaps.

That brings up a thought....maybe one of rippers can comment.  I know the smaller the board the better the ride....but how much better?

EG: The sky 5x24x5.5 board at 75L can be knee started, just barely, easy in high wind, doable in medium wind, challenging in light wind.  The armstrong 4.11x21x3 surf foil at 30ishL is a full-on sinker ... doable in high wind, challenging in medium, not doable in light wind. 

So in med-high wind, how much better is the performance of a sinker board for all aspects of riding, carving in waves, pumping, etc versus the same length but thicker and wider knee-starter?  Airs are obvious, lighter and smaller is optimal.  But for other riding aspects....anticipate smaller board is more responsive....but a little bit better or a lot better?  I guess ultimately the question....is the investment in the learning curve and the lower-end suffering worth it?  :-)
I asked a similar question about minimal knee start boards on Wingsurf. Here is the answer I got. So the guy who designs these boards (Sky) does not ride a sinker, and his skills are most likely way above anyone on this forum. Always a lot of talk on this forum about high end skills (I recall the sinker board thread), but not so much on the demonstration part..........

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Wing Foil Videos
« on: January 30, 2021, 11:11:15 PM »


Weather looks great there!  (Watching the superhuman stuff that just about no average Joe will do in a hundred years is ok, while watching everyday riders out there just having fun is what the sport is really all about :) )

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25-30+ mph. 4m Unit, Delta 1480cm proto foil. 28 degres :-/

See attachment below for video:

Cnski, great! Looks very reasonable. I will go out in flat water gusting to 35 mph and that’s my “don’t be an idiot” limit. No way would I do even close to 35 in the ocean with on shore conditions. Guess I’m just a wimpy chickensh#t..... :P.  Riding on the Indian River around Sebastian Inlet (FL) yesterday with gusts to maybe 33ish on my 4m echo. Could have easily been on my 3.3 (and should have been). The ocean side side was big and scary with an unrelenting shore break. No way for me. If the protected side was hitting 40 mph, I’d wouldn’t be out there.

I would love to see some video of anyone posting here winging in 40+ mph gusts.  Then again I love to see video of some of regulars here winging at any wind speed.

Unless my wife comes and films me, I Won’t have any video. I used to use a go pro while surfing, windsurfing and SUP surfing and found them a Royal PITA. Spent more time fidgeting with the damn camera, that  I’d miss waves.  The 1st few videos were cool and exciting , but quickly got boring and it wasn’t worth the trouble. 

Understood, although seeing anyone ride in true 40+ Conditions would not be boring at all.

 Living on the OBX we do get infrequent fronts that will produce true 40+ mph conditions. I rarely see anyone (kite, windsurf or wing) ever ride in those conditions. 30+, yes, all the time.   40+, just too crazy dangerous except for a very few  pro level riders. That’s what I see from my humble vantage point,.....compared to internet chatter.....

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I would love to see some video of anyone posting here winging in 40+ mph gusts.  Then again I love to see video of some of regulars here winging at any wind speed.

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Baja Daze
« on: January 25, 2021, 09:40:55 PM »
Jealous! (Although that looks bloody crowded :o, but still jealous!). Heck, I’ll take anything over hands going numb at 45 deg. Maybe you can rig a cam and show us some of that cool video editing with Davinci Resolve

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Aside from good fitting wetsuit stuff, for me it’s always been about being able to depower the hand wing as much as possible and still stay upwind on foil. Less pull from the wing ===> less arm/leg fatigue

With a decent high aspect, low volume (thin!) foil in the water, it’s amazing how little power is required in the hand wing to not only generate decent upwind speed but even cruise through the tacks. 

This is a really boring clip with all the wetsuit garb (including 3mm 5 finger gloves) this last week in ~48 deg water.  Light winds with a 5m Echo and Veloce XXL. I’m hardly pulling on the Echo and the foil just generates speed and glides through the tacks. I don’t think my arms would last 10 minutes in gloves if that hand wing was actually pulling hard :P

https://youtu.be/vx9h8Hb2z1s

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Wing Foil Videos
« on: January 17, 2021, 12:43:11 AM »
Confused...were you guys riding in or making some of these videos, or were they ones on the internet that you liked?
I was in the one I postered.

Very cool! Where in west Oz? My older daughter is close to Denmark in WA and my younger one is in Melbourne. If not for these travel restrictions we’d be there now........Great work by the drone pilot :)

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Wing Foil Videos
« on: January 16, 2021, 02:38:57 AM »
Confused...were you guys riding in or making some of these videos, or were they ones on the internet that you liked?

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In my case the legs and knees will get maxed out before my arms do. In the summer my max daily session might be 3 1/2 hours of riding with a few water breaks in between. Maybe 2 hours max without a break. In a full wetsuit/hood/gloves/booties cut those numbers in half!

Guess I’m one of those riders who never felt the need for a harness to reduce arm fatigue. I was a bit paranoid whether I’d have the strength/stamina since I was starting this sport at 61, so I started doing some wimpy arm/upper body daily quick workouts. I think that helped a lot in addition to my regular swimming/biking routine. Probably also helped that I lost 30# of waistline baggage before I started winging.

On technique, I will always sacrifice a bit of top speed or maxed out upwind angle in order to ride slightly more “depowered” for saving arm (and leg!) strength. Always lots of foot switching to give both arms equal time in the forward position. Never ever ride for long stretches in one stance (I turn constantly). Keep both  arms fairly stretched on all points of sail, meaning most of the work in the core and legs.  And lastly for me at least, that clunky Duotone boom is always less fatiguing than handles, but I think I’m more the exception with the boom thing. Just personal preference.

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Random / Re: My action cam evolution
« on: January 08, 2021, 11:45:19 PM »
Great thread guys. I don’t film enough and I’m making a resolution to change that this year. It’s gotten so easy.

Word is that I might be doing a gig for GoPro soon. Do you think they will mind if I had an Insta360 when we show up?  :D

I wanna hear Creek weigh in here.

Which Insta360 model do you have?  Now with the Insta360 one X2 being waterproof, I think I would prefer it over the GoPro Max and even the modular 360 oneR. The raw output footage of both cameras seems pretty comparable, and I understand the basic reframe editing workflow is pretty decent for both (of course I only have experience with the GoPro Max). Where the Insta360 really shines is all the advanced editing features like Shot Lab.

I tried to do this  “clone trail” effect manually in Luma Fusion and it’s a royal PITA with a panning shot. This is my horrible looking quick and dirty first attempt. The Insta360 does awesome clone trails built in to the editor.  Might seem a bit gimmicky but it’s fun doing occasional effects.

360 cams are awesome for Watersports but one drawback are those vulnerable curved lens faces getting scratched pretty easily. My Max is already scratched. The protective clear  lens covers that came with it, can’t be used in water. Oh well, none of this new stuff is perfect

https://youtu.be/00MjEQ1mTAA




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Random / Re: My action cam evolution
« on: January 08, 2021, 12:05:01 PM »
Woah... some nice kit, Dave!  I spent a lotta hours fiddling, making mounts for skydivers and some contest rated water-skiers. Attached to a knee of a waterskier, the water pressure would blow the seals on early cams.  They were also hard to find in weeds when they came off skydivers... 'Still, lotsa fun.

My big inspiration was Rob Pirie (Piros) like with SUP and now, Foils ...he was well ahead of most everybody in water-proof cams.  Without being on anyone's F'ing payroll.
Jim

Yeah Jim, sometimes mounting process is just as important as the camera performance itself, even if it looks pretty simple. Those kiteboarding clips I showed  use a line mount holder for the GoPro, set on my power lines a few feet from the control bar. You would think with the constant kite looping we do this mount would wreak havoc while the lines twist up and then untwist, but it works perfectly.  When you factor in the amazing image stabilization on these new cams, and even the automatic horizon compensation (especially for all the spinning they go through), they take an almost unusable film clip (or at least one that would require lots of post processing) and clean it all up from the get go. 





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Random / Re: My action cam evolution
« on: January 08, 2021, 12:41:57 AM »
This was an early vid made around 2004 using a little waterproof Nikon Coolpix 100 mounted on a tripod in shallow water (Lakes Bay in NJ). The very first Gopros were just showing up. . . . .

In the end it just comes down to one thing. 
You can't run from the wind you face the music you trim your sails and keep going. 


I am guessing your progression, to the Outer Banks in North Carolina USA, was similar to mine.  You grew up and fell into a wind sport.  I lived in the Northeast.  NY, Boston, Philly.   There are only so many places with truly good wind in the US and the World.  Cape Hatteras, The Gorge, San Francisco Bay Area, Corpus Christi, and Hawaii.  I got a summer internship in San Francisco in 1997 and would windsurf every weekend day and some afternoons when I could.  Then I concluded "I have to move to San Francisco."

And so I live in Half Moon Bay, CA 500 yards from the Pacific Ocean.  One extreme sport has evolved to the next and the next and the next . . . 

Lakes Bay 1995, Cape Hatteras, Upstate NY 1990, Cap May, Nantucket . . . Be glad you have something to use the GoPro for.

PS: Great old school stuff.  At the time it was remarkable.   

https://youtu.be/E1ksEAQJZ64

Great early video with all the requisite zoomed in video shake! Well at least you guys had a film crew. When I did that Lakes Bay video I had never even seen video of myself kiting before. I initially did it just to help my own progression.

Exactly right on the wind chasing thing. I learned to windsurf living in Columbus, OH, and I never got half as good as you at it. I blame it poor location! I learned to kite board living in State College, PA. Neither were exactly water Mecca’s. For kiteboarding I would get up at 2 am, drive the 5 hrs from State College to Lakes Bay (Atlantic City), work for 3 hrs in the van with my cell phone and lap top (I had a small semiconductor equipment startup company at the time), then kiteboard until I was completely spent (that is if the wind actually showed up), then pack up and load up on caffeine before making the 5 hr return trip home the same day. When I sold the company and had the chance to bail, I made a b-line to the OBX, with a very understanding wife and a 5th grader kicking and screaming the whole way...........

That 5th grader is now living in Melbourne, Australia with her significant other. I hear there are some awesome Gold Coast surf locations for winging, and their summer is our winter  ::) ::)

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Random / My action cam evolution
« on: January 07, 2021, 03:36:10 AM »
I had fun reading the Davinci Resolve video edit thread (well, maybe more the videos than than the reading) and it made me think about my own history with action cam self filming and editing and just how much things have progressed. I’m purely low tech simpleton but I still enjoy mucking around with it as new technology evolves.

This was an early vid made around 2004 using a little waterproof Nikon Coolpix 100 mounted on a tripod in shallow water (Lakes Bay in NJ). The very first Gopros were just showing up. About as low tech and low res as you could imagine. I vaguely remember trying to line up jumps in line and close enough to the camera without smacking it. On the plus side the joints were still working good.

https://youtu.be/-QBCDulxD4k

This is a latest video I made from various clips this last year with all my new gadgets including a shiny new SKYdio2 drone, Staaker drone, GoPro Max, and GoPro 7. Edited with LumaFusion on an IPad Pro. I probably don’t use 1/10th of what’s available in Luma.  Retired on the OBX. My, how technology has improved! If only the same thing could be said for the body joints,.......hence the action is not quite as actiony  :P)










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25-30 is the 3M
20-25 is the 4m
15-20 is the 5m
10-15 is the 6m

Sort of about the same with Echo’s. 76kg, 6’.  5 and 4 get the most use

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