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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Upwind/Downwind
« on: August 08, 2020, 08:09:58 PM »
A pretty good day at Swell today.  3.5 and Armstrong 1850 with 232 tail.

https://www.facebook.com/phil.seu.58/videos/777071299731653

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: F-One Swing
« on: August 08, 2020, 08:07:24 PM »
Hi Bill,

These are just the stock leashes that F-One includes with each Swing.  I am not sure if they sell them independently.  It might be worth a check.
I bought a couple of spares through BAK.   They are not cheap.

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Armstrong HS 1850
« on: August 07, 2020, 05:54:30 PM »
Itís the magical foil.  Today I was able to pump up to the swell in front of me several times on my 5-10 board. Canít wait to pair it with an FSM.

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Tack sequence
« on: August 06, 2020, 12:48:10 PM »
I have completed exactly one tack on foil so the struggles are pretty fresh in my mind.  There is a recent thread with more experienced people commenting and some videos people have posted but here are my basics for taking this on.

1.  For most people, it is easier to go from toe side to heel side (the opposite of your pictures)

2.  Practice the wing movement on land without a bunch of wind at first so it becomes second nature. 

3.  Both hands should be palm down.

4.  I start heading up wind with some speed then vigorously bring the wing over.  That upper body movement helps you carve into and across the wind as you switch hands to repower your wing.  When I fail, it is usually because I cannot get my back hand onto the handle quickly enough and I fall backwards.

That's really all I know.  Most of my attempts are still failures but my success rate is very slowly improving.

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Upwind/Downwind
« on: August 06, 2020, 07:03:32 AM »
Did a bunch of up and down wind runs at Swell yesterday. Mostly overpowered on my 3.5 (2.8 finally arrives today) and biggest swells of my nascent winging career.  Longest DW runs I have experienced and trying to sort out how to link swells.  It is a blind move for me right now as sometimes when I carve another swell is there to extend my glide and other times there is nothing and I am scrambling to repower before stalling.  When I watch experienced riders do this (especially the DW paddlers), they seem to know exactly when to carve to pick up the next swell.  There is definitely some magical ďreading the riverĒ going on.  The other things they do better is taking the correct angle on a swell (I am learning that it is not always straight down hill) and knowing exactly when and how hard to pump to conserve energy but keep the glide going.  I was so high after my session that I mostly sat and stared till bedtime.  My asked me several times if I was ok and why was I just sitting there.

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Dwight, would be interested in your thoughts about the BRM wing if you get a chance to try one.  I played with one on the beach and it seemed incredibly stiff but then I was riding close to one on the water and when he pumped it, the whole thing moved a lot. Hard to describe but kinda like a butterfly flapping its wings.  It was pretty dramatic how it was folding up and down.

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Foil SUP / Re: Progressing from wake foiling to downwind and winging
« on: August 03, 2020, 07:51:03 AM »
Couldn't leave this post on such a negative note. I ended up getting an Armstrong HS1850. Couldn't be happier. Like everyone says amazing quality. So easy to ride. Amazing progression after just a couple days. So much glide I can easily ride 1st wave ropeless and control speed to stay on wave. Couldn't do that with SS gamma. Now to get out in some wind and see how far I can go downwind.

Have a 5.4 SS v2 wing coming monday (and pre-ordered a Naish 110 which I hope to have in a few weeks). Hope to be winging by end of the summer!
If I was in your situation, I would take my boat down to Sherman Island, go upwind to an island and wing away.  Probably the best summer wind quality in North America, rivaling Squamish in steadiness.  Flat and warm water, ideal for learning. It is tidal so do your due diligence on depth and current vs. wind direction.

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Very impressive and way beyond my pay grade. Definitely needs a more pithy name.

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Armstrong HS 1850
« on: August 03, 2020, 05:14:28 AM »
First wing session in the waves with the 1850 today. Side offshore 10-20mph. 6m BRM. Waves waist-stomach high on sets.  Clean long walls from Isaias.

Ran the +1 shim and the wing went amazing. Able to cruise out upwind against the longshore current and pick off swells from way out the back. This is where the 1850 smokes the 2400, as that wing you almost have to jibe one wave ahead of the one you want to track down, letting it catch you as it stands up more one the inside. The 1850 could keep me on the unbreaking wave long before hitting the sandbar. The 1550 wouldnít have been as much fun in the lully conditions either.

The 6m BRM went insane too. Despite the ginormous leading edge diameter, the thing cuts through wind like a katana. Much more resistance felt from my own body than the wing when cutting back into the wind.

Sounds amazing. I am loving mine. Completed my first on foil tack yesterday with it.  The glide makes everything easier.  Could be a one foil quiver for most conditions for me.  You will probably never use a bigger foil for winging.  Under what conditions would you use a smaller foil for winging and what foil would that be?

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Great review. I looked at one of the new slingshots today--interesting wing. I don't get why designers are adding so many handles though. Seems like it's well past time to get this working better. Lots of ways to skin that cat and it seems to me that handles are the LEAST effective solution.

The high dihedral looked problematic--like the V1 Duotones. The early Duotones flipped at every opportunity.

I'm certainly not settled on F-one being the ultimate wing, but it's time for some kind of demo capability. Having to buy wings to try them isn't going to cut it when they're so expensive, especially since I like the ones I have. I've got to believe that a lot of folks are in the same boat. Same for boards. I plan to settle down with just the F-one wings, the boards I have (maybe minus one), cull the herd of foils to probably three wings, two stabilizers, one fuselage, and two masts and wait until there are either demo opportunities or a clearly superior design
I agree with so much of this.  I have to conclude that most wings have too many handles given that the very popular Swing essentially has 2 power handles as does the Cloud (which I believe will be a hit as availability increases).

Wing demos.  The pandemic and the lack of supply make it hard right now but the logistics are so much easier than kite demos, for example.  So easy to come in and switch wings and sizing isnít as critical. 

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Yes Thatspec, that was me the other day.  I was inspired by watching you riding down wind that day.   I would be interested in a big group DWer

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Starting to put it all together.  Plus the magical Armstrong 1850.

https://www.facebook.com/phil.seu.58/videos/771379353634181

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Duck jibe
« on: July 31, 2020, 05:13:51 AM »
Iím pretty sure Iíll run over my wing a few times trying this but will give it a shot. :)  Those of us who donít  windsurf have been calling this the ďGong gybe ď

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Mast length
« on: July 30, 2020, 05:09:24 AM »
As you go longer it becomes harder to catch the swell energy because the wing normally rides further down in the water.


I have been working on maximizing glide last few sessions and am now realizing how true the above statement is.  I hadnít really noticed it in bigger ocean waves, but it really makes a huge difference in small wind swell.  I seem to naturally ride at the same height over the water regardless of mast length so will go back to 72 from current 85 unless I expect big swell.

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Board sizing is a fascinating topic that can keep me mentally and physically engaged for a long time.  Some random thoughts.

It does become a reverse arms race, but once past the very beginner stage, I think it is important to use a board that feels a bit uncomfortable on the surface as oneís skills develop.  Iím terrible on the surface, either kneeling or riding and always on the verge of falling off, but that forces me to learn to move quickly for starts, pump up on foil and stay on foil during transitions.   I see friends stay too long on their bigger boards and become too comfortable on the surface which slows down their foiling progression. 

DWF makes an important observation on another Topic that the foil makes a noticeable difference as far as ease of knee starts. (Likely related to drag and board speed)  Makes sense, and something I am paying more attention to.

There is a comment above about training wheels. Not sure how well it works but there is someone on FB who straps a small boogie board on top of a foil board for extra volume. 

After looking at the offerings of several big name custom builders, I am going with a DWF board.  Under 5 feet and around 11.5 pounds.  Innegra and carbon fiber by a master builder.  So excited to pump that board. 

I think knee starting a small board is harder on the River than other places due to the fresh water and wacky current which can really push your foil around.


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