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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Reedin Super wing

« on: December 26, 2021, 10:19:32 PM »

It seams like Ensis is working on a similar solution.... photo was taken in Tarifa

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Duotone Unit D/Lab

« on: August 18, 2021, 02:30:58 PM »

found these photos a while ago ...

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Too many wing companies

« on: April 22, 2021, 10:56:22 AM »

I live in one of the wind capitals of the world, SF.  Quality probably a notch or so below Maui or the Gorge, but we have numbers as in millions of residents.

The local shops struggle to have stock.

I've heard fone ozone ensis are either out of stock, or low stock, and months out to get stock.

I don't dare sell a wing or board because who knows how long until I get a replacement.

If there are lots of wing companies I'm not seeing them here

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In Spain there is a persistent rumour that stock will run out before summer.
I am buying first and selling later,and the selling is going pretty easy.

There is definitely a problem in the supply chain. Is it because to much demand or is there a much deeper problem ... time will tell .

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Boom strut hybrid wings are coming

« on: March 01, 2021, 12:07:12 AM »

One more for the Bar lovers! RRD latest proto in SA very similar to the Duotone Slick

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: New F One Swing?

« on: September 20, 2020, 11:00:19 AM »

There are aslo some rumours that they will use some new high tech material. On the photo you can see the two part leading edge ...   

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: F-one Swing Boom ideas anyone?

« on: August 22, 2020, 07:48:43 AM »

It seems easier to cut out the strut and attache a bar to the wing. I did some conversions in December. In my opinion, it improved the wing in total  I think I did 12 conversions.

 

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: New 2020 wing by DUOTONE

« on: February 29, 2020, 10:51:45 AM »

"As everyone expected, there are a lot of choices now, and most manufacturers are releasing V2 now."  agree there is much more competition now, Ullman will introduce a bar wing without battens carbon bar with an infill panel support ...

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: WINGS with Bar

« on: January 23, 2020, 12:32:19 PM »

it is not an exact science , but Fone certainly looks less curved when not loaded

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: WINGS with Bar

« on: January 23, 2020, 12:16:21 PM »

The Fone strut is curved like that with no load.

Fone has got a reflex in the back part of the profile agree. Fones was simply and example here. ( no cirt to Foen here at all )I have attached a photo of a Cab wing in a extrema situation.  I am wondering is this is not a arguement for the bar which is constructed corelcty will give better profiel suport.

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: WINGS with Bar

« on: January 23, 2020, 11:26:39 AM »

Hi , 

Here is a different point of view why a bar opposed to a strut.  No question that the Foen or many other wings functions well and suits the purpose. But could the wing function be batter is it would not flex?

The Flex in this photo is still mild.

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: WINGS with Bar

« on: January 19, 2020, 09:19:28 PM »

Have you experimented with rigid strut handles or rigid strut mounted bars?

Not quite sure what you mean by Ridge strut.  We made some very rigid handles and the get more comfortable in the hand sure but the weight becomes an issue.  I do not see that advantage here yet sure you get to have better input into the wing but that is minimal.

The problem with mounting a bar to a Strut is also weight. It can be done relatively easy.  Believe it or not but a strut with bladder and all construction part all add weight. Were a carbon bar/light front pice can be in the same world weight wise as a strut +-. If I am not mistaken we can get the weight diff down to +- 30 g dry ...   

Perhaps the solution here is the dragon Fly solution with removable handles.
 

Any pics of the prototype starboard?

There are some photos of the Starboard wing which have been taken at the Dusseldroff Boot trade fair.
 

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: WINGS with Bar

« on: January 19, 2020, 09:42:09 AM »

Not sure yet, still doing my homework, have the proto work done but am still trying to work out why most brands don't have one. 

We have solved some issues they have on the DT

- no battens
- less wing wash etc

On the other side, the bar hitting the board is simply unavoidable. Found that the bar is ok if it hits the board as long as there is some EVA the bigger problem is the end of the bar. 

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: WINGS with Bar

« on: January 19, 2020, 08:49:26 AM »

Some photos of duotone have appeared already. it even looks like they will bring a wing with handles.

But why are there no other companies?

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: WINGS with Bar

« on: January 19, 2020, 07:33:36 AM »

The weight will be solved with better material, I am sure. Aluminium vs Carbon. 

The argument of the boom hitting the board well there is very little one can argue against that. 

PeterP have you used an F-One with boom/bar? How did the wing function is their a noticeable improvement?

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / WINGS with Bar

« on: January 18, 2020, 09:55:51 PM »

Hi,

Wondering why are there only two wings on the market with bar ?  Duotone and Dragon fly, I have used the duotone and can see the value of a wing with bar.  I als have hearded that Starboard will brign a wing with bar , are there any other manufacturer ? 

RE the Duotone there is the stability qestion but that will be solved in time.