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Foil SUP / Re: Foil on soft boards

« on: March 23, 2018, 12:58:21 AM »

I’m sorry I can see the part we’re he is saying they are from previously broken boards however he did imply that they it was not designed to last and all I was trying to suggest was a way to try and prevent it from breaking or breaking again if it’s was previously broken. Perhaps if he didn’t intend it to last it would be better to fix it up and give it to a child we’re it could last signifactly longer and avoid breaking it straight away again after all he odviosly has a lot better boards avalable.
It’s actually been my quest for a foam less board for a long time and something I have spent a long time on researching.  currently about 95% of any polystyrene waste gets recycled or re purposed. I am allso directing a lot more of my time to working on some plastic and polystyrene recycling machine that are to be open source designs as part of the precious plastic movement so I’m trying to do as much as posable.
We did a beach clean the other day and it really hits home how big the problem is with the amount of polystyrene we picked up.
The hole reason I do board repair in to keep boards from having a early grave and the hole reason I’m so passionate about building boards to as good quality as posable is so that they can last many times over what some of the boards you see now and to stop them going to land fill. If it wasn’t for the foilboards I actually no have a quiver that should last me a life time unless anything major changes, stoping building boards is surprisingly high on my list for a number of reasons. There are a lot of people doing some cool things to help with the upcycleing of old boards it’s the first time I have seen the one posted above so thanks for that the one I love is

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Foil SUP / Re: Foil on soft boards

« on: March 22, 2018, 06:52:40 PM »

for any one that wants to understand my thoughts on this a little more this is the problem we face here with these type of boards you can have a quick read on the problem we have here and I think most would agree its a truly scary thought to think all of this plastic is going to land fill from something that we should all be working to combat. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-37430693

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Foil SUP / Re: Diy sup foil

« on: March 22, 2018, 10:16:13 AM »

My guess would be a high density core like airex and the expanding epoxy around it, it doesn’t appear to be a very close tolerance core though. Not sure what the Black leading and trailingedge are could be carbon or just adhesive.

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Foil SUP / Re: Diy sup foil

« on: March 22, 2018, 02:33:55 AM »

yes I would not have expected it to 100% solid carbon except maybe the mast, I was expecting perhaps the wing to be hollow but 100% carbon, like you say I have no doubt all the cloth is 100% carbon but the foil as a entirety does not look like it. I expect the mast is the same, I think beasho said he has seen a broken one.   

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Foil SUP / Re: Diy sup foil

« on: March 22, 2018, 01:52:39 AM »

two other pics

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Foil SUP / Re: Diy sup foil

« on: March 22, 2018, 01:49:43 AM »

Grabbed this interesting picture of facebook of a gofoil maliko 160 which clearly shows the construction and the airfoil profile. defiantly not the 100% carbon foil the claim it to be.

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Foil SUP / Re: Foils Lift to Drag and NEW Options

« on: March 21, 2018, 01:11:24 PM »

i would think your first guess of 10:1 would be closer but I would not be surprised if it was less maybe between 4 and maybe 6 :1.  When you consider ridged wing gliders have a ratio of between 20-30:1 and paragliders are 8-10 in the air I think we would be way closer to a paraglider than anything else.

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Foil SUP / Re: Foil on soft boards

« on: March 21, 2018, 03:36:46 AM »

personally I would want to add some extra strength to cantilever of the mast mount to the front foot area, it will never last without it

It's not ment to last. It's just a fun build for less then...$40

Sorry but thats fairly irresponsible as far as far as environmental issues go and the waste that is produced from the manufacture and disposal of your bit of fun. at $40 I don’t even see it as good value when you know it will break in a few hours when for a little extra effort you could make it last

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Foil SUP / Re: Foil on soft boards

« on: March 21, 2018, 02:19:53 AM »

personally I would want to add some extra strength to cantilever of the mast mount to the front foot area, it will never last without it

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Foil SUP / Re: Destructive Addiction

« on: March 21, 2018, 12:57:42 AM »

fully addicted and happy to admit it  since 2016  when I took the first few flights on my mk1 diy rig. I don't think there has been a day go by when I haven't done something foil related. The pain I went through having now idea in hell how it should be set up or what exactly to do on the water is a distant memory but every second was worth it! I think given the conditions we suffer were I surf most of the time I could happily have the foil as my only rig, im hoping this summer with the big wings will mean it also replaces some of my dw boards. Like you say there is something about the glide that makes it never get old in the same way snowboarding on powder does and the best bit its fresh tracks every ride

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Foil SUP / Re: How much carbon needs to wrap around the leading edge of mast?

« on: March 19, 2018, 12:52:58 AM »

If you up the perimeter thickness to 2-3 layers and I think about 10% infill I have found I can use full vacuum.

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Foil SUP / Re: Diy sup foil

« on: March 18, 2018, 01:49:42 PM »

Been busy working on the new prone board as we have had a anouther spell of very cold weather with very few waves. Hoping to get the probe board finished this week and with the excuse of using up offcuts of foam I have cut a new dw foilboard over the weekend

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Foil SUP / Re: Downwind foiling--the next level

« on: March 17, 2018, 12:56:00 PM »

cool to see some one has tried it but that's a hell of a lot of board to lift!

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Foil SUP / Re: Diy sup foil

« on: March 10, 2018, 10:20:10 AM »

I went after the wings with the modified templates.
It is all as Charlie said, four hands would have been easier.
Some spackle and sanding will be required.
I might consider some 'softer' wing tips after reading Pono's latest thread asking for safer designs.
Hope people are OK with my decentralized posts, just trying to acknowledge where I am getting ideas and stoke the choir...

That’s not bad for a first go I normally mess up a few before I get a nice one if I have not done them in a while. That’s the classic one side finishing before the other on the leading edge, try cutting the other way perhaps and Finnish at the TE, but like you say you can easily make those work as you want a rounded leading edge anyway

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Foil SUP / Re: Breakthrough!

« on: March 09, 2018, 12:40:46 AM »

good to hear you made another break through its really not that hard once you get the basics down and the foils are so easy to use now with the big wings. I have windsurf foiling is on the list for this summer along with perhaps some other wind powered foil stuff.