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Foil SUP / Re: Switch to Prone (Pros/Cons)
« on: May 03, 2021, 10:27:06 PM »
I keep threatening to give the prone game a real shot and planned to get into it this spring/summer, then Fluffy showed back up this week. She's still 12' and a little rounder in the middle since last summer, but aren't we all. She kept lurking at Nukes all afternoon today and gave me a nice big fat profile view in the face of a set wave that came my way. I know statistically we are more likely to be killed by bees or lightening than a shark, but I bet she doesn't know that.
Yep, it can be a bit of a mind game especially when your 1/4 mile or more offshore sitting on your prone board with water up to your waist. Canít just raise your legs and rest them on top like a sup. Laying on the board ainít much better as now your life giving organs are a nibble away. A few more bodies in the water helps a bit but in the back of my mind I canít help but think getting back to shore may be the last thing I do. So....screw it and enjoy while you can! Take the best precautions you can but donít stop enjoying what you like.

Foil SUP / Re: Switch to Prone (Pros/Cons)
« on: May 03, 2021, 09:12:03 PM »
I told myself I would give prone foiling a go at the beginning of the year. I primarily sup foil Downwind on the weekends wind permitting. It is physically demanding at my age but I wanted to at least try. Iíve been riding the same Naish board which I knew was a bit small (29L) for a beginner but I got a great deal on it and Iím a bit too cheap a stubborn to buy another or give up. I am using the same foil (210 signature albatross) that I Downwind on. Plenty of lift and glide but not as surfy as I would like. I can get 2 for ones sometimes but not feeling the pump like I do Downwind. Anyways, I carry it in my truck so I can surf after work if there is something to surf. I wonít switch to prone only because paddling kills my neck and in my mind nothing is better than downwinding. Itís like riding a wave for 10 miles without stopping. Never crowded 😁 So realistically I say prone if you like,sup if you like, just get in the water and enjoy something!

The Shape Shack / Re: Pandemic Project
« on: May 03, 2021, 08:46:25 PM »
Saturday was windier than I thought. Sunday was a lot less near the top of the run but I still got going. There must have been 8 wingers launching just before I arrived at Maliko. One poor soul was still struggling to get going as I paddled out but he finally got it going just as I was about to stand up. He was getting pretty close to the rocks😰. Surprised to not see anybody except two oc-1 paddlers on my way to the harbor. Normally the wingers in the harbor are plentiful but it was oddly sparse when I arrived. So much so that I wondered if there had been a shark sighting or something.

The Shape Shack / Re: Pandemic Project
« on: May 02, 2021, 09:05:39 PM »
Got a chance to try the board I made this weekend. My wife took a short clip of me with her phone as I finished my maliko on Saturday. It was pretty windy (maybe 22mpg and gusty) and I had a hard time standing up on the board outside of maliko. My old Flying Dutchman was 6'8" about 21' nose and tail and 26 5/8.  With it being so wide and stable I could paddle with feet in parallel stance until I felt the push and then switch to surf stance. This board is 6' with a 18 3/4 nose and a 15 3/4 tail by 23 5/8 so I'm learning to stand and paddle in surf stance almost immediately to get control. The board popped up surprisingly quick for 6ft. I had to drop off foil 1/4 mile short of the harbor as the tugboat was bringing in a barge. It was tougher getting going again as there was all kinds of chop and backwash as everywhere but I persevered and made it to the ramp once I got going. Rough clip but you get the idea.

General Discussion / Re: Surf Rig - How do you hide your keys?
« on: May 01, 2021, 02:53:57 PM »
I just use a lockbox like the one Realtors use to hide a pass key in. Lock the truck/car with the fob and close the door a walk away. Have to remember the 4 digit code and to replace the pass key each time. Share the code with friends so if they get there first they can dry off etc.

The Shape Shack / Re: Pandemic Project
« on: April 30, 2021, 12:02:14 AM »
Wow that was quick. Nice work. Is that your first time glassing?
I successfully made a midrange longboard about 20years ago. Blank was already as far as rocker. I just had to thin it out to preference. I remember having glassed on fins because I was to scared to put fcs plugs in and found out later there was a jig for laying them out. 😬I watched many vids on YouTube that gave me courage to try making a sup with eps. Didnít use a Hotwire even though I watched many a vid on how to make one. I have a hitachi surfboard planer that I used but didnít feel comfortable using when dimensions  got close to where I wanted them. Took longer but I felt more comfortable with a sure form.
Bill, l filled the tracks with scraps of foam and then laminated right over them. Took measurements before I laminated and when done I drilled a hole big enough to use a router bit to finish the work. Pretty stoked how they turned out.
I learned a lot while doing this board. Hopefully it will hold together long enough for lots of downwinders. ( this weekend looks good) 🤞

The Shape Shack / Re: Pandemic Project
« on: April 28, 2021, 10:59:56 PM »
Well that was disappointing. I guess I didnít think about needing more high density foam. Thatís all I had at the time and thought the carbon top and bottom would suffice. Live and learn. I have already finished this board. Took it on itís maiden voyage last Sunday at Maliko. Told the wife to be ready for a early pickup at Baldwin Beach in case I couldnít get it flying but flew it all the way to the harbor. It was like driving a sports car compared to my 6í8Ē. Totally pleased with the results so far but time will tell if the choices I made in the build were inadequate.
I used the Jimmy Lewis poor man bagging method and was pleased with how it came out. Definitely not as easy as he makes it look but heís a professional and I get that. All in all I canít wait to use it again and learned so much building it that I already have ideas of making a prone too. ( the one I have now is 29l and itís good in the air but work in the water)

The Shape Shack / Re: Pandemic Project
« on: April 27, 2021, 10:41:04 PM »
Cowboy. You were one of those whoís builds gave me inspiration to give it a go. Thanks for that!
So after reading about everything concerning installing tracks I made the decision to install them similarly to how DW does his. I started with chinook boxes as per others suggestions. I had some divinycell leftovers from kiteboard builds. I gorilla glued it to the boxes. I know DW does this and then bags carbon around the whole assembly but I chickened out of that as I donít feel comfortable enough vacuum bagging.
I wasnít quite sure how to cut through the 5Ē of foam to make room for slipping them in but as you can see I made it happen. The goal was to connect the tracks to the top AND bottom of the board to give strength. I used gorilla glue to set them in. (This glue is amazing!) I donít know why all my photos upload 90deg.different but you get the picture I hope.

The Shape Shack / Pandemic Project
« on: April 26, 2021, 09:05:29 PM »
Well, it began a few months ago...
I have watched as others have made boards for themselves and of course thought about making one too. Procrastination and uncertainty kept me from trying for months but I finally took the leap. Inspired by many of you who have jumped in and completed their builds with success gave me the push to give it a shot. A bit of background first. Avid Downwind paddler for years but when I first saw Kai on the foil I declared to my wife (and myself) that I was all in. Been hooked ever since. Learned to foil kiting so sup foiling came pretty easy for me. Downwinders on a foil sup was one of The hardest things I have learned to do. I did my first attempts at 59 and it was brutal and humbling at first. I had no ski or friend with one but once you learn the technique of getting up on foil you progress quickly. 3 years later and still learning new things.
Anyways, back to the board. Been riding my 6í8 X 26Ē Flying Dutchman since the start but wanted a smaller board like many others have here that are downwinding. I liked the look of kalama boards that he has been riding but couldnít spend that kind of money. (Too cheap😉)  Didnít measure or pull any template from one but I see them under other peoples feet on some of my runs.
Here was the start. I went with a stringered 1.5lb blank because I didnít feel confident in keeping anything symmetric without a stringer and also figuring that my glassing abilities would be subpar and further weaken the board.

Thanks Bill. Best western it is. Iím not doing anything but downwinding on my sup. No winging for me. I too wondered about renting gear versus bringing my own. A bit of a pain traveling with gear but will do it if need be. Bill, will you be back in hood river by then or still here on Maui?

Travel, Trips, Destinations / Headed to Hood River ( Advice needed )
« on: April 13, 2021, 09:54:34 PM »
Well it may be time to get off the island and see something new. We are thinking of going to see my daughter who lives outside of Seattle in Issaquah. Planning to go sometime this summer most likely in July but still unbooked at the moment. We will probably spend the first week in Issaquah and the next In Hood River. Weíve never been to the river but want to try foiling there too as Maui is the only place I have done it. Sooooo... looking for advice on the best location to stay and such. Someone at Big Winds said the viento run ends near the event center would be a good place but Iím sure others have opinions too. I am only planning to Downwind on a foil sup. I see there is a best western near there that looks like it could work. I welcome any ideas or suggestions in advance.

Sessions / Re: Orlena- CODE RED SWELL!
« on: February 04, 2021, 07:59:14 AM »
Brrr.... And I thought it was cold here last night because it rained. Someone got a nice barrel starting at the 5min.mark


And yes, SanO, technique and ability trumps setup. 70 pound kids with their energy and agility can take something totally unsuited, slam it together with no regard to AOA or any finer point, and pump their way off to the horizon. Geezers who weigh three times what they do with the agility of a hippo need all the help they can get.

Hippos are quite agile once they are in the water!   ;)

General Discussion / Re: Screen Name Change
« on: December 27, 2020, 07:34:45 PM »
Love the califoil design sano. Similar to the Takuma Kujira. I canít help but wonder how it would ride.🙃
If I were to design one with Hawaiian theme it wouldnít fly at

Environment / Re: pruning kelp at a reef break?
« on: November 30, 2020, 08:00:39 AM »
I doubt you would have any realistic success as it can grow as much as 50cm a day.
You could harvest it before you surf but unless you drug it back to the beach it would be floating randomly in the lineup making it even worse.
Maybe just get Pono and others to mow it down with their E foils. Iím sure one of them is capable of attaching a mower deck to his.🤔

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