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Gear Talk / Re: ONE SUP Edge Pro 2.0
« on: July 07, 2019, 05:54:43 AM »
A couple of anecdotal truths I've learnt over the years:

1) Design is 99% plagiarism and 1% true innovation. There is no shame or harm in being influenced by others, from any field and any form of watersports.

2) What a brand says publicly does influence peoples buying habits - irrespective of how good or bad the product is.

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Gear Talk / Re: ONE SUP Edge Pro 2.0
« on: July 04, 2019, 11:19:55 PM »
I'll say this - it's the first board I've seen for a long time that I know would make people scratch their heads and would stand out in the park drawing glances before the start gun goes. That's the kind of equipment I like to use to be honest. At that width it's probably a bit much to handle but it's the only new board I've seen this year that makes me want to be a sponsored racer again. It would be interesting to get some test numbers on that.

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Gear Talk / Re: ONE SUP Edge Pro 2.0
« on: July 04, 2019, 08:50:03 AM »
I'm curious to know how that tail design works. I've seen it over the last couple of years on the Liquid Board Company's boards in the states so it's not completely novel. I don't like the excessive scuppers on the rail - when that's been tested on surfski's, that ate speed. Love the hollow construction and sharp lines. How light is this ?

I do like the look of more companies coming onto the market that are pushing conventions and constructions. This is certainly that. A shame we'll probably never see one in the UK to try.

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Training, Diet, and Fitness / Re: Max Heart Rate
« on: June 23, 2019, 11:37:42 PM »
Finding the formula for max heart rate is easy.
I don't see how that can so easily be applied across the board.
Because I have high blood pressure, I take my reading daily at various times of the day.  My average resting heart rate is 56.
Using 200-70, my max rate should be 150.
This doesn't seem possible.
Is there any other more personalized method of figuring max heart rate?
As everyone else says, 220-age is generalized (and has an intended intention to underestimate the max). The only really way to find out your max is lab tests doing things like a ramp test.

As it is, I don't use HR for anything other than occasional 'first thing in the morning' health checks if I feel 'off' (using resting heart rate as a check of fatigue - +5 beats over norm - take it easy, +10 beats over norm - take the day off).

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It seems like the writer was asked to do a blog post to explain why Mistral will be the last company to offer a wing.  :)

The title should be, "Confused? You will be in 10 paragraphs".  This type of every thought is sacred writing is the result of teachers being shamed out of using their red pens.  What circular bunk.

Windsurfing did not fail because of complexity.  That is just repeated nonsense.  It ran its course.  The people who loved it stuck with it, advanced and wanted more advanced gear.  That happens. 

There are critics of everything.  If you listen to them you will stay in bed all day.  Something truly has no merit if it is not being bashed online (typically by a group that is desperately trying to justify their time investment in a waning activity).

There are plenty of women wing foiling already. 

For all the foil danger, where are the injuries? (yes, we have seen the one guy with the gashed head)

There is a correct order for something to be fun?  Who decides that?
I recognise the writing style - that's Steve West writing I'd guess.

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Sneak Peeks, Rumors, and Wish Lists / Re: New 2020 Naish Javelin
« on: June 14, 2019, 06:46:52 AM »
My first reaction was these looked somewhat ugly in the pictures both shape and looks, but then they seem to grow on you at least the shape :-)  . Maybe they will look smashing in the flesh.
The 24" and 280L Javelin might just make it for you and get you back into the fray one more year.

Nah. Once you're in a well made surfski and you find its so easy to hold 13kph, you really forget why the hell you were trying to drag yourself anywhere at 9kph with a back breaking effort. ;D

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Sneak Peeks, Rumors, and Wish Lists / New 2020 Naish Javelin
« on: June 14, 2019, 04:39:59 AM »
If you haven't seen it yet, the Naish Javelin has been resurrected (I thought it was dead for good). Images on Seabreeze here:

https://www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/Review/Naish-2020-Race-Program?page=1

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I love guns. They are so versatile. Here's my latest purchase.

Now that is a fine looking board. Local company to me and they are producing some nice stuff that stands out from the masses.

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Just wanted to dig this up to say thanks. I've been doing intermittent fasting for about two months and I've gone from 241 to 217. Not quite at high school weight, but the lightest I've been in about a decade. No real diet change, just not eating for most of the day. Started with 16 hour fasts and bumped it closer to 20 after a couple of weeks. After the first three days or so the hunger pangs were pretty manageable.

When it gets interesting is when you take a week off and go back to regular meal timing. I did it this week intentionally as a break and felt terrible all week. Two more donuts and I'm back to it tomorrow.........

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Anyone who does wind sports is familiar with the Walk Of Shame. It's inevitable at first. A foil craft should be able to go upwind better than most. Part of the equation is sail design, but the lift/drag ratio of whatever is opposing sideways force is a bigger deal. The rail of a windsurfer is off the charts in the bad direction, a foil is equally in the weeds in the good direction. I think the photo of Robbie wingfoiling with a beach umbrella is a pretty fair illustration.

Admin--no doubt people will built performance versions of a wingfoil, even though the likely market is a tiny handful of nuts like me. I think the Slingshot version that Ken and Rod were testing last summer in the Gorge is a precursor of that. I think the Naish version is in the inflatable SUP realm of performance. My ideal wing would pack down to a convenient backpack smaller than a kite, and have a keel bar that converts to a paddle for those unfortunate moments when everything dies off Wells Island. I don't want to swim this shit to The Hook.

Hell, I've done the walk of shame with every sport I've ever tried ! Normally when I progress from the bascis and then use equipment way beyond my skillset.

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General Discussion / Re: SUP racing growing ? Uhm.....
« on: April 12, 2019, 12:04:58 PM »

The problem though is that being a good waterman isn't the same as being a good athlete. For example, if the conditions are hot, relying on water alone for fluid intake (as one account mentions) is like something out of the dark ages for conditions this severe. It just needs time for the laidback nature of SUP to catch up with other sports so that paddlers look after themselves holistically - not just in terms of technical skill.

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That's only according to "your" science.

There are many different theories on nutrition, and many examples of natives exploding this theories.

OK, when I say natives you think of Tarahumara indians, Pokot, Kalahari bushmen, etc. There's a local (good old continental european white) guy here I know who still holds the record for the ascent&descent of Everest. He does, well did, >8000m summits in a day going fast and light with only a snickers bar and 1/2 a liter of water.

Save your breath. He'll be the first to admit it isn't what your science advises. He's 70 now and I don't think you're going change him.

There are a ton of outliers. Point being nutrition is personal and it's mostly about reservoirs of strength and digging deep into potential. As the village kids here have shown over and over (a few world champions in ultra endurance sports here, and I guarantee you they eat more cheese on a weekly basis than you could ever imagine). They'll be the first to tell you it's all in the training.

I think Titou played it smart resting at home in slightly cooler conditions and arriving the night before the race. He has a degree in sports coaching BTW.



As to your second point, you're basically comparing a race of 1-1.5 hours to 2-3 hours. Its different in terms of its demands (the shorter one will be roughly about 5% higher in terms of exercise intensity). As you say, that would put off amateurs and for paddlers it requires a bit more volume to get the best out of it. I personally hate races of that length in any sport but if I were doing them, I'd need sessions of 3-4 hours in length behind me. Sod that.

... and there I was subscribing to the theory you only need to train half as much as race day.

[prefer mine just BTW]

Címon Yugi. You know as well as I do that the science on nutrition is pretty much universally published and understood - even if its actual application needs to be tailored slightly to an athlete. Itís not snake oil. If these guys are going out there on water without even experimenting with modern fluid nutrition they are fools to themselves. Some of the outliers I suspect are better at utilising fat for fuel.

As for training distances - itís the difference between completing and maximising your aerobic engine development really. For example, the 2012 GB Team Pursuit track cycling squad (who typically raced over 4 minutes), I know were still putting in some rides of upto 6 hours in length to develop their engine as much as they could.


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General Discussion / Re: SUP racing growing ? Uhm.....
« on: April 12, 2019, 06:37:42 AM »

You might be right, although it is odd that elite *locals* who are world-class watermen would not know what they require for such a course.

But what is gained by having a race that is 24kms rather than 12 (apart from putting amateurs off racing because few people have the time to train for such long events)?

The problem though is that being a good waterman isn't the same as being a good athlete. For example, if the conditions are hot, relying on water alone for fluid intake (as one account mentions) is like something out of the dark ages for conditions this severe. It just needs time for the laidback nature of SUP to catch up with other sports so that paddlers look after themselves holistically - not just in terms of technical skill.

As to your second point, you're basically comparing a race of 1-1.5 hours to 2-3 hours. Its different in terms of its demands (the shorter one will be roughly about 5% higher in terms of exercise intensity). As you say, that would put off amateurs and for paddlers it requires a bit more volume to get the best out of it. I personally hate races of that length in any sport but if I were doing them, I'd need sessions of 3-4 hours in length behind me. Sod that.

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General Discussion / Re: SUP racing growing ? Uhm.....
« on: April 12, 2019, 01:19:11 AM »
I think they should think about the conditions then decide the race distance and in that heat it should be half to 12km.
That sounds sensible. I wonder how the rank positions differed at the full distance from the ones at the halfway mark? My guess is that they werenít greatly different, and in fact the finishes of the race might have been even more exciting if it had only been 12k.

If itís so hot and humid that youíve got Tahitians wilting in the heat, then maybe something isnít quite right. The people from cold climates would likely be at a huge disadvantage. Maybe that is one reason that Yuka was able to pass Olivia, and pull away, so easily?

In my view, it's just poor preparation on the part of the athletes. There are plenty of sports that have to contend with such hot/humid conditions but they just equip and fuel appropriately. What likely happened is that the weather was extreme and the athletes merely equipped themselves as they would do in most races rather than doing their homework. I don't have a lot of sympathy in that case.

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General Discussion / Re: SUP racing growing ? Uhm.....
« on: April 12, 2019, 01:17:01 AM »
Iím sure the fact that there were drug tests has nothing to do with the absence of some big names.


A controversial claim there.......

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He did not say if he was to become a team rider or whatever is the equivalent and race next year sponsored by Nelo and Braca or not at all.

He isn't a team rider. He's currently being loaned demo boards by the UK's distributor on a short-term basis. However, a paddler of his standard (he's ex-C1 Hungarian national squad), will no doubt be pursuing such an arrangement at some point I would imagine. I would say that his account provides some natural bias towards that. However, you can read that account as someone out there using a tippy board...... albeit in very challenging conditions (I was out there round the corner on a demo Nelo surf ski having a similar experience but I didn't see it as a negative thing either - some might).

For what its worth, he's raced the 24.75 twice now. One was a winter low key race a fortnight ago (beating our longstanding national champion in the process) and the second was a win in our National Sprint Championships last weekend. He's got the skills to eventually tame the 23 width of that board but aside from the likes of Bruno (who currently has got social media footage of him using a 22 inch version in rough water at full speed), the 23 inch width boards are frankly beyond 99.9% of us in my view.

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