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Since I live over 100 miles from the upper Texas coast where I go sup surfing, I do a lot of flat water paddling with my 11'1" One World and my two 10'5" Duke sups because the subdivision where I live has two private lakes which are about 100 yards from my home.

Since I'm a small framed guy skeletal wise, 5'8" (68") tall and I weigh (at this time) 148 pounds, I like to use a woman's paddle because of the smaller diameter shaft made for a woman's hands and the paddle I use is an adjustable length paddle. The paddle is a two piece Naish 75 and the model name for the paddle is the Alana.

Because I do a lot of flat water paddling, I have found I like the length of the paddle set at 72 1/2" with me paddling in a modified surf stance. This length "feels" right for me with my two surgically repaired right and left shoulders without any discomfort.

When it comes to sup surfing, the height of the waves along with the speed of the waves and the type of waves I encounter will determine what paddle length I will use for that sup surfing session. This is why I like an adjustable length paddle.

Sessions / Re: Groundhog Days
« on: September 22, 2021, 05:57:42 AM »

Another fine video. Your small waves are our big waves on the upper Texas coast. Love that you're surfing your 10' board. I have a lot of fun on my 10'5" BP "Duke" model whether I'm sup surfing or flat water paddling. Your water is crystal clear and very blue in color. I love that color. Wish we had that color of water here on the upper coast.

Just curious. What fin configuration on you using on your 10'? When I'm sup surfing, I'm always using a 4 fin quad setup on all of my sups.

As always, thanks for sharing your videos.

Sessions / Re: September Blues
« on: September 21, 2021, 05:47:15 AM »

BTW, I liked your "hat".

Thanks NW! This is the same hat, and it's lasted for several years now. You've mentioned that you liked it before, and asked where I got it. Unfortunately, it's a Japanese brand called Kiss Mark (which is a hickey in US parlance), so hard to find outside Japan. I haven't seen it in a while, but if I can find one, I'm going to send you one :-)

If you can find that hat again, just send me a private message with your home address and I'll you money for the hat. I like your hat since it has the strap under the chin, covers the ears and most importantly for me, a longish bill to keep the sun off of my nose.

The Texas sun where I live is very hot and high UV light for long periods of time on exposed skin, no matter how much sunblock is applied, just increases the odds of skin cancer. From some of the old surfers I've met at Surfside, Texas; I can tell when I'm talking to them up close, a dermatologist has taken off some skin cancer from the tips of their noses.

Sessions / Re: September Blues
« on: September 20, 2021, 08:37:02 PM »
It is always nice to see another one of your sup surfing videos. Good to see you got to take advantage of the bump wave wise.

BTW, I liked your "hat".

Thanks for sharing your video.

General Discussion / Re: Change Email Address in Account Settings
« on: September 07, 2021, 07:15:13 PM »

At the top of the page, if you go to "Profile"--->"Account Settings"--->"Modify Profile", you should find your current email address in the box. I believe you should be able to enter your new email address, hit the "Change profile" button bottom right of the screen, and presto/changeo.

You were correct above and now the Standup site has my new email address.

General Discussion / Change Email Address in Account Settings
« on: September 03, 2021, 03:48:57 AM »
I need to change my contact email address for the Standup Zone. I'll explain below.

For about 15 years, I have used a Hotmail email address to register for sites and I used it for the Standup Zone when I registered to be a member on this site. But ever since Microsoft bought Hotmail, I started having problems with Hotmail. So I want to drop my Hotmail email account since I'm tired of dealing with Microsoft's screw ups with my Hotmail account.

Basically, I want to drop my Hotmail email account from everything which is tied to it. Since Comcast is my ISP, which I've had since 1993, this gives me a Comcast email account which I rarely use, but I do use it at least four times a month.

I want to point out I do not need a new password. I want to keep using my present password for the Standup Zone. With that said, in my account settings for the Zone, can I change the Hotmail email address to the new Comcast email address by using my present password without creating a hassle for myself?

In other words, can I do the above without having anything sent to my Hotmail email for verification because sometimes I have trouble getting into my Hotmail email account, like now, because of the present screw up from Microsoft concerning my Hotmail account or do I have to send a private message to Admin to help me out in this matter?

Sessions / Re: Hurricane Henri In New Jersey- August 2021
« on: August 27, 2021, 03:25:26 PM »

Nice video. Those were some nice big waves. BTW, loved your 4 fin quad setup on your sups.

SUP General / Re: Surfboards (Longboards)
« on: August 25, 2021, 08:33:39 AM »
Now for the "cork grip" review.

As stated previously, I really do not like to use wax on either of my surfboard or sups. Too messy since Texas is hot and when it gets hot here in Texas, it is hot. Melted wax gets all over everything when it is hot. Clothes, skin, seats, etc. This is why I wanted an alternative to "wax".

One cannot slide on the cork material. The grip is definitely there. One has to lift their feet to move around. The cork does not rub the bottoms of my feet raw when I'm moving around on top of the board. The cork does not rub my knees raw either when I do my popup from the prone position to catch a wave.

Basically, the only exposed skin on me when I was surfing my Parallax, it is from the knees on down to my feet since I wear a long sleeve t-shirt and a long billed hat which covers my face and nose. The hat also has ear flaps and a semi wrap around flap in the back of the hat which covers the entire back of my neck. The only sunblock I use is on my exposed skin which is from the knees on down to my feet.

I'm telling you this since I do not wear a wetsuit since I don't like cold water so I do not know if the cork material will damage the neoprene on a wetsuit due to rubbing. Once the water temperature goes below 66 degrees F, I place myself in dry dock so to speak. And when the water temperature reaches 66 degree F (and above), I'm back on the water.

Durability, is the unknown factor right now. I don't know how long the cork material will last. But right now, I really like not having to deal with applying a base coat of wax, then applying a different wax for the temperature of the water and finally, the melted wax mess.

BTW; as I type this post, the water temperature at Surfside Jetty Park is 88 degrees F.

SUP General / Re: Surfboards (Longboards)
« on: August 25, 2021, 07:53:32 AM »
It's been a little over a month since my last post in this topic thread. I waited until I had three sessions down at Surfside, Texas which is my favorite place to prone surf a longboard.

I took both Involvement fins with me (9.0 & 9.5). The 9.0 fin was set 3 3/16" down from the front of the center fin box and the 9.5 fin was set at 2 1/2" down from the front of the center fin box. And I always take a screwdriver and a 12" ruler with me.

The Surfside Jetty is about 1/2 mile in length. I like to surf from about 1/4 mile from the beach which on this day let me ride the board all the way to the beach.

The first session was when the wind direction was from the south/southwest at about 15 mph. The wave direction that day was from the southeast with wave heights around 4'. The time between waves was around 10 seconds. The culmination of these factors produced some really nice uniform waves which stayed together and which I could ride all the way to the beach.

My 9'3" Parallax is a niche board since I can trim (steer) the board from the middle of the board if I wanted to go right or left just by shifting my weight from right to left instead of standing on the tail end of the board over the fin, doing the back drop with one foot and then shifting my weight to the right or left to go right or left direction wise.

The board is also a speed machine. I could easily outrun the wave so I had to take some big sweeping turns to stay in contact with the wave so I never made any fin adjustments placement wise for either of the 9.0 or 9.5 fins since the board was performing the way I wanted it to with both fins.

The next session I want to talk about was a day where the wind direction was coming from the south at about 22 mph. The wave direction that day was from the south also. The waves were about 5 1/2' - 6'. The time between each wave was around 5 seconds. These factors produced wind blown disorganized waves.

The Parallax again tried to outrun these waves. With the 9.0 fin set at 3 3/16" down from the front of the center fin box, with board really moving fast, the tail end of the board wanted to "skid out" sometimes. Too loose. So I moved the fin back to where it was 3 11/16" from the front of the center fin box to give the board better traction in a fast turn and the tail end of the board no longer wanted to skid out.

The 9.5 fin, I didn't have to change the setting since it performed well in these bigger wind and wave conditions with the initial setting of 2 1/2" down from the center of the fin box.

The last session was in small wave conditions. The wind direction was from the south at about 10 mph. The wave direction was from the south. The small disorganized waves were around 1.5' - 2' in height with the time between each wave around 3 seconds.

The 9.0 fin handles these small waves easily with the 3 3/16 placement setting down from the front of the center fin box. However, the 9.5 fin didn't really like these small waves. Too tracky and made it feel harder to turn from the middle of the board. I had to move this fin forward, to loosen up the board and the sweet spot fin placement wise was only 2" down from the front of the center fin box and the board was easy to turn from the middle of the board again.

As for the "cork grip", I'll review that in the next post because if I try and do it in this post, this post is going to turn into a "long manuscript".

@ TallDude

A little offtopic, but I couldn't resist when I saw the picture you posted.

The Econoline looks nice, but what REALLY caught my eye was the Lockheed P-38 Lightning aircraft parked in the hangar behind the van.

SUP General / Re: Surfboards (Longboards)
« on: July 24, 2021, 12:01:02 PM »
@ surfcowboy

I did make one mistake in my last post and it concerns this quote below:

"Then place the fin in the fin box and slide the back of the fin at the 6" line to where it met the edge of the rail."

What I should have said was not to place the fin in the fin box, but lay it flat on the board where the fin fits into the fin box and then slide the fin, while it is still laying flat on the board, until the 6" horizontal line at the back of the 9" fin meets the edge of the board's rail. I did the same thing with the 9 1/2" fin.

BTW, the reason why I chose the Flying Diamonds fin designs is because CJ Nelson who designed his Parallax surfboard and had it shaped by Ryan Engle, wanted a fin that went well with the Parallax. If I'm not mistaken, CJ designed his own fins for his boards. I'm not sure, but I think CJ Nelson is either a part owner or sole owner of the Flying Diamonds fin company.

I know some people like a looser board feeling and some of them use the Parallax fin which is a lot looser fin and CJ's fastest fin than the Involvement fin in their Parallax boards whereas I wanted more drive in my Parallax board and this is why I chose the Involvement fin.

The CJ Nelson designs of his fins are at the link below.

SUP General / Re: Surfboards (Longboards)
« on: July 24, 2021, 07:27:08 AM »
Sometimes the smallest detail makes the biggest difference. Continuing on.

I was told when I visited Surfside, before I got all my cork pieces to make my Parallax waxless, to visit a local surfer/shaper who owns a surf shop in Surfside, Texas and where he also has a CNC machine to make his customized boards.

When I visited him and let him look at the pictures of my 9.0 (9") Involvement fin installed in my Parallax, he told me concerning single fin surfboards, I was correct in thinking I should have one-third of the fin hanging over the edge of the rail.

But he told me when I installed the fin, I "eye balled" it and this is how I got my 1 1/2" distance from the front of the fin to the front of the long fin box. He told me, from looking at the pictures of my installed fin, my Parallax did not have one third of the fin overhanging the rail. I had "much less" than one third. This would make my Parallax very loose since there wasn't one third of the fin over the rail.

He told the first time I would try to turn my board left or right, the fin where I had it placed would would turn the board so tightly and combined with the very fast speed the Parallax generates by design, I would be thrown off the board because of the speed in the tight turn. He gave me detailed instructions.

He told me to get a ruler and measure where the fin would come out the fin box into thirds. In this case by laying the fin flat and where it would come out of the fin box and go straight up 6" and put a dot at the front of the fin, do the same thing with the back of the fin and also in the middle of the fin. Then draw a horizontal line (in pencil) through all three dots.

Then place the fin in the fin box and slide the back of the fin at the 6" line to where it met the edge of the rail. Then tighten the fin down since this would really give me 3" of the fin overhanging the rail instead of "eye balling it". I followed his instructions and found the 9.0 (9") fin had 3" of fin overhanging the rail.

Then I measured with a ruler, the front of the fin where it was tightened down to the front of the fin box and the distance was 3 3/16". A very big change from 1 1/2" from where I had "eye balled" it.

I did the same thing with my 9.5 (9 1/2") Involvement fin. But dividing a 9 1/2" fin into thirds, I had to improvise. The ruler I have is divided (english measurements, not metric) in one inch (1") segments by sixteenths of an inch, eighths of an inch, quarter of an inch and one half inch.

So 9 1/2" inches divided into thirds is 3 3/16" + 3 3/16" + 3 3/16" equals 9 9/16", but 9 8/16" is 9 1/2" so I would be off by 1/16". So I measured the fin, like I did with my first 9" fin and placed the dots at the front, back and middle of fin set at 6 5/16". So when the back of the fin met the horizontal line where it met the rail, this left me 3 3/16" of the fin overhanging the rail. In essence, one third of the fin overhanging the rail.

I then measured this distance; with a ruler and found where the 9.5 fin was tightened down in the fin box, to the front of the fin box, the distance was 2 1/2". This is a very good and detailed way to get a good starting point to place a fin in a single fin prone longboard if one wants to have one third of the fin overhanging the rail.

He also told me whatever Involvement fin (9.0 or 9.5) I had installed in my board, depending on the wave conditions I actually had at that time instead of what was "forecasted" to always take the second fin with me as a backup along a ruler and flat head screw driver and I would not run into any problems fin wise.


SUP General / Re: Surfboards (Longboards)
« on: July 24, 2021, 05:45:31 AM »
@ Dontsink

I'm not a nose rider and the Parallax is not specifically designed to be a nose rider. You can nose ride the Parallax, but the waves have plenty of juice in them to nose ride it. I'm more of a glider where I get out just in front of the wave, surf the board towards the beach and ride it until the wave loses it momentum and falls apart.

The Parallax is a niche board which is inbetween a high performance longboard and a nose rider board so it can be trimmed (turned) from standing in the middle of the board. This fits with my style of surfing a prone surfboard.

One thing about the Parallax, if the waves starts to lose it's form and to the right or left of you if a wave starts to form (when I ride disorganized waves with my sup), the Parallax is a very fast board and it is designed with plenty of speed to catch any wave/section that forms to the right or left of you if the wave you're presently riding peters out.

As for VersaTraction, it is slippery and that is what many surfers who have tried it have said. This is why I didn't go with VersaTraction. I looked at the clear RSPro hexagonal pieces which are not made out of cork, but there are drawbacks to that as well. The main drawback, it can rub the bottom of your feet raw if you slide you feet on it while surfing a wave.

The other drawback was when paddling prone to head on out to where the waves are breaking, if you are surfing bare chested, it will rub your nipples raw. This is why I went with the cork material since it doesn't do that with the bottom of your feet and if you're surfing bare chested. But I always surf with a long sleeve t-shirt which cancels out the raw nipples problem.

I always surf with a long sleeve t-shirt for another reason and that is so I don't have to wear lots of sunscreen to avoid skin cancer. The hat I wear has a long bill so it shields my face and nose from the sun. The hat also has flaps on the sides and back of it to protect the sides of my neck and the back of my neck from the sun also.

Now I am also going to make another post because I measured the 9" Involvement fin placement wrong which was pointed out to me by the guy who owns a surf shop, who also designs and shapes his surfboards and who also has a CNC machine in his shop, in Surfside, Texas. I also bought another Flying Diamonds fin, a 9.5 (9.5") Involvement fin (on his advice) which I now have and it is installed on my Parallax.

SUP General / Re: Surfboards (Longboards)
« on: July 23, 2021, 11:42:21 AM »
Now that I have all the extra pieces I needed to finish my cork grip waxless job for my 9'3" Parallax surfboard, it is time for pictures.

Then I'll just take my Parallax down to Surfside, Texas for a little in depth surfing and see how the grip is on my bare feet and hope it works.

And if it does work without rubbing the undersides of my bare feet raw, a surfing report will be in order for the Parallax to see how well the board (and me) surfs together.

SUP General / Re: Surfboards (Longboards)
« on: July 10, 2021, 08:17:00 AM »
I have my Flying Diamonds "Involvement" 9.5 installed on my 9'3" Parallax longboard. Now for the wax situation.

I ordered from North Shore (in Hood River, Oregon) two sets of their cork Front Deck Grip 2 so that gives me 8 separate pieces. But instead of the cork Hexa Tail, I went with the cork Front Deck Grip Hexa which gives me 12 full hexagons and 3 half hexagons.

The reason I went with the Front Deck Grip Hexa is because my leash hole on the Parallax is 8" from the tail end of the board. Since the boar is 111" in length, the half way point of the board, which is where the sweet spot is on this board, is at 55 1/2". This length is where the back of both of my hands would rest (where my hand connects to my wrist) on the board for me to do my popups to put me into a surfing stance.

If I would have went with the Hexa Tail, the kickpad would have put me 8" too far forward on the board when I'm laying prone paddling the longboard causing the nose of the board to sink and would also give me trouble when doing a popup.

To make my point; below is a short video, best watched in HD and in full screen, where (about half way through the video) there is a guy on a longboard with a tail kickpad and the tail kickpad is not the way to go. I think he must have come from surfing shortboards since he is pumping the board while trying to shred a wave.

The video is below and it is at my favorite Surfside, TX place. BTW, the best time to surf Surfside is when the wind is coming from the south or southwest and the waves are coming from the southeast. The actual surfing is shot from a drone.

When I'm going to Surfside, I always check the conditions at the site below.

Below is a picture of the items North Shore sent me which I got Friday afternoon. I've just got to install them on the board.

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