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Foil SUP / Re: Pacasmayo - Laird Hamilton 2021
« on: August 30, 2021, 08:35:22 PM »
Jondrums, He is not trying to compete with the young whipper snappers. The style here is man power into the wave, then not blowing the shot.

He is the man, one of the pioneers.

This is a cat pissing on a new spot where no cat has pissed before. He posts videos like this lately.. Random spots where nobody has foiled, long ass waves.

Its going to be hard for anyone to say they were the first to foil "Bla" at the rate he is going.

This may also be the record distance ever recorded for standup, self propelled foil wave. Thought I saw a cut, but its long...


Foil SUP / Re: Pacasmayo - Laird Hamilton 2021
« on: August 29, 2021, 07:59:36 AM »
To me its the pinnacle of foil surfing (with a stick in your hand)..

Lots of super fun tow ins on the instagrunt, but who actually gets to do that.

He paddled into that wave. Now I am guessing his buddy in the boat takes him back but still.. there is something admirable about self propelled foiling vs tow.

that board is awesome. There are 2-3 feet behind the mast :)


Great video, even if you are already winging.

Notables for me
*Circular pump
*Weight shift on board pump (Climb, then down / accelerate)
*Timing in general
*Killer explanation on foil dynamics and speed

Good stuff and everyone in this forum would benefit from this I am guessing.

Thank you sir!

Foil SUP / Re: First kit!
« on: August 19, 2021, 08:01:15 AM »
Glad you are stoked B-Walnut

I would recommend getting someone to pull you behind the boat first if you have never foiled.

Good luck and send it.

Foil SUP / Re: F-one Rocket Wing ASC 5'10" Foilboard - SUP?
« on: August 14, 2021, 08:32:55 AM »

I am 160lbs and would be able to sup Foil that size.
I am sup foiling the Naish Hover Hover Wing Foil GS 110    5'10"/177.8 cm    29"/73.7 cm    4 3/10"/10.9 cm    110 L, with little to no issues.

I had to learn how to stand down the middle before flying though on the shorter board.

This board should send it.

If you are at or under 200LBS I almost bought it once but it did not have feet strap holes. *If you were over 200LBS and a baller you could do it as well.


Foil SUP / Re: SUP Foil Surfing Oregon?
« on: August 14, 2021, 08:27:52 AM »
I have been foil surfing(SUP) for the last 3 years on the Oregon coast.
Its amazing. Your friend is lying to you or is unaware. :)

I have foiled wave sizes from over head(scary as hell), to ankle height. Most of the time its Chest high and lower where I go.

Yes you can get a DW / Foil SUP board.

For example, my first foil SUP is a starboard 7'4 hypernut. It will do foil SUP. Downwind, and winging.

Bring it dude.

Foil SUP / Re: Next wing after Maliko 200 - Progression
« on: August 08, 2021, 10:30:21 AM »
I would just chop the Maliko tail for now and keep trying the 14 flip.  The chopped tail provides enough lift to help pop up out of the water and is not too big to still have fun and haul ass.

I think the 18 flat would be better for winging and would not mess with it now..
Focus on getting up on the new HA wings then move to the flat tails.

The first couple of times I rode my 14 flip in the surf I also felt like nothing was there. I quickly moved back to the chopped maliko. It was when I first winged on the 14 flip where I figured it out. It is so fast and it + the GL120 require just more forward board speed and dont/wont jump out of the water like the M200..

You can delay the inevitable with the Malkio Chopped, but the 14 flip is the tail for surf with GF for now.

I am pretty sure he is saying how great the wing is, especially since there is no handle GAP.


Cowboy, I feel that I need the middle gab handles or miniboom, mainly when I am climbing up to stand. The distance to grab the back handles is too much of a stretch and having the miniboom and or middle handles alleviates this. Without the middle handles and or a miniboom, you'd better be ready for the power when you reach for the back handles. Maybe its just me only having 40 some odd sessions on the wing. I am back and forth jibing, not tacking yet. Pop up immediately to foil etc..

There is also a one handed middle of the boom stand up move that Alan Cadiz does.

JonathanC, also mentioned a kind of neutral flying use case. I have also one handed my SLing 5'4 with the miniboom. Great feeling, total control, and gave my other arm a rest.

I cant believe I/we are still typing about this gap. dont... "fall into the gap


Thanks for sharing.

Unbelievable to me that folks are still leaving a huge gap in the hand strapping right in the middle. I would immediately be installing a mini boom on this wing..

Can anyone think of a good reason to skip one or two handles?.. Dont tell me weight. !


Foil SUP / Re: Naish S26 95L - SUP
« on: July 15, 2021, 10:29:50 PM »
Folks, received my S26 110L board and it is great for me so far.

I am 160 lbs and the board i learned on is 7'4 106 liters.

The Naish S26 110 Liter is 5'10 and its awesome for winging and stand up paddle surfing at my weight.

One thing i noticed was when I breach the foil and smack (winging) the board recovers really well. I realize this is away shorter board but its also 5 liters more than my 7'4 starboard. I think its the rails and what not.

When I am stand up foiling on it I noticed immediately that I need to be in more of a surfer stance before takeoff. The short length and the current operator, tend to cause it to pearl or wheelie. Its super stable side to side, but when you are dropping or tucking into an explosion or just glassy face, you have to really be on it front to back. once i started doing that it shocked me and picked up to foil behind the wave.. I pumped into the face and then into the wave in front of that one. :)

Swing weight was rad
Winged in on the PNL185 + 14 flip and GL210 + 14 Flip
Surfed it on GL210 and Chopped Maliko tail.

I am stoked on this board and hope the deck pad does not bubble up.

Foil SUP / Re: Go Foil 14 Flip Shim
« on: June 25, 2021, 06:57:13 AM »
Hi Gone.

Sorry, I am using the short pedestal and trying to create a tiny bit of lift at takeoff and then during pumping.

I made a credit card shim and put it under the front bolt(closest to mast) and the thing wheelied out of control. I obviously shimmed too much but a credit card is pretty thin.

I just wanted to *see* what is working.

I understand this setup gets squirrly on larger waves. I have experienced this first hand.

Foil SUP / Go Foil 14 Flip Shim
« on: June 23, 2021, 04:42:20 PM »
So I have been avoiding shim talk until now, but when I see jondrums and beasho typing about it, I pay attention..

Beasho, I thought you posted a pic but I cannot find it.

Today I tried a credit card shim on the front screw of my 14 flip. The rig wheelied wildly out of control on my shoulder high drops. I could feel it wheelieing even before I caught the wave, as I was paddling(trying to catch the wave). I know guys are saying that the lift shims on tail wings can be unstable in larger drops.

Will someone please post a pic of thier 14 flip lift shim or send the link to the thread. I cannot find it.

I am looking for a tiny bit of lift, mainly to help pumping. 

Thanks in advance.

I am very stoked to have the Zone and have it be a positive part of peoples lives.  Many thanks!

Contributions are entirely optional but I really appreciate the idea!  Her is a link to use if you want to help out. 

Many thanks!

Boom, Done!
Thanks again Admin

General Discussion / Re: Is anyone just SUP Surfing anymore?
« on: June 15, 2021, 07:03:51 AM »
Yes I still stand up paddle surf (WHEN THE FOILING SUCKS).

Love having my foil, wing dings and my stand up paddle board all in my rig.

I go our dawn patrol, foil if I can, if thats not working I stand up surf, If that is not working because of the wind, I try to wing ding.

There is another thread somewhere in here where I go on and on about how foiling helps my stand up surfing. I still truly believe that foiling helps your surfing and surfing helps your foiling.

Its good to get off balance on your standie from time to time to kedep yourself in check.

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