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Very cool to watch people getting started.  This guy is doing really well for an early session.

Random / Re: Board Prices may be going up...
« on: Today at 01:34:34 AM »
Add another 5% to that.  We are up to 15% now on this group and 30% on the previous groups.  Way to show '

Random / Re: Electric Surf Vehicles in 2020
« on: Today at 01:27:56 AM »
I dig Tesla but right now they are essentially a luxury brand ($80K + starting prices) with one more moderately priced Sedan .  The Model 3 is a terrific vehicle but, sedan.  Even Ford is over those :).  The model Y is a cool design but looks too small for boards in back (unless we start to get much better).  I really wish that they were doing an Outback sized vehicle.  So, the truck may be the first one that really does it.  Let's hope they give it a little more grit than the computer images. 

Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: F-One Swing
« on: August 23, 2019, 06:52:37 AM »
What are you considering marginal?  When I got off the water I told Chan that I though I might be able to use the 3.5 in 15-20 but I was still in a mild state of shock or as millenials would say, trying to process :).

A consistent 15 is marginal for us

Using a 3.5 for 15 would be a dream.  I have been using a 5 for anything under 20 and 4 for 20+.  My 5 is terrific but it is a big feeling wing.  If I could get into that territory on this paperweight 3.5 I would be beyond stoked. 

Watching that video I realized what I am doing wrong.  I need to be listening to poppy punk.  Yesterday I had Bell-bottom Blues in my head.  I am pretty sure that Clapton is keeping me slow.  Do you want to see me crawl across the floor...

Random / Re: Electric Surf Vehicles in 2020
« on: August 23, 2019, 04:20:20 AM »
The Rivians look very cool and have amazing specs.  90K though for a pickup or SUV with the bigger battery.  The 230 mile range option is 70K but I wonder if you would be able to sell it in a few years with that lower range.  That is less of an issue on a less expensive vehicle. 

The VW ID 3 has a lot of preorders at 33K for a small crossover.

Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Wing tricks
« on: August 23, 2019, 03:28:53 AM »
Getting closer :)


First off, welcome to the forum!

Second, after periods of inactivity our bodies take a while to adjust to what we are demanding of them.  Seemingly basic stuff may even be painful.  This is going to change but it does take patience.

Third, two practical tips:

As an exercise stand up with your feet at shoulder width and toes forward.  Shift your weight from one foot to another.  Now check what you just did.  Did your shoulders and head move above the foot that you were weighting?  If so that would likely be a fall on the water.  Try again and weight one foot only by shifting your hips (leave your head and shoulders centered between your feet).  Now weigh the other foot.  Now back and forth.  This weight shift is how you counter an unstable board.  Like anything else it is a learned motion.  Once you have it you have it:)

How you rise to standing is the foundation.  You will want to know what you want to do there before you start.  Make a mental program of your motions and practice them on dry land.  It is best to hold your paddle shaft square across the board in front of you.  The paddle blade should be flat on the water.  This adds stability.  Hand position is shoulder width.  Your hands will be fists around the shaft with the heels of your palms and knuckles on the deck of the board.  You want to be kneeling facing the nose and you will want to skootch (that is a technical term :) ) your knees toward your hands so that you are in a tight but comfortable kneel.  In that position you can rock your body fore and aft to feel for the balance line on the board.  Your goal here is to set your feet on that balance line.  Take your time here.  A lot of falls are determined before you ever stand.  Being in the right spot will solve this. Take a little stroke to get some forward motion as soon as you are on your feet even if your are not entirely balanced yet.  Forward motion adds a lot of stability and you will find that your minor adjustments go easier with this motion. 

You can do this.  As always, the hardest part is not allowing the perceptions of others to determine what you will do.  In a year you will look back on this and you will be the one watching beginners struggle with the same things.  Accomplishment through persistence carries an amazing reward...and you are on your way.

Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: F-One Swing
« on: August 23, 2019, 02:30:02 AM »
If that 3.5 wing can fly my 190# a$$ on marginal wind you should be able to foil on it in your conditions. Would be nice to read performance comparison with your duotone

Whoah!  We had great (high 20's to low 30's) wind with bigger bumps yesterday and fairly steady.  My first reaction after this one session is that this 3.5 has amazing grunt and lifts like a much bigger wing.  Even so it stays very well behaved and spills air on demand.  It is incredibly light.   It is incredibly light.  See that?  I said that twice.  It has a notably deeper pocket than our other wings.  If I had a 2.8 Swing in the car I would have come back for it.  I thought that size was going to be for Chan only but we are going to need the 2.2 as well :).  My first day experience was very positive but I want to get this out in more modest winds and see if my first reaction holds true. 

You wrote that this is foiling you in marginal winds.  Based on yesterday, it definitely feels like it would.  What are you considering marginal?  When I got off the water I told Chan that I though I might be able to use the 3.5 in 15-20 but I was still in a mild state of shock or as millenials would say, trying to process :)

Random / Re: Electric Surf Vehicles in 2020
« on: August 22, 2019, 06:27:52 AM »
Yeah, I would buy one of these today if they were available.  370 HP, 300 Miles. They are doing a cargo version as well.  2022, though.  Faking emissions testing will be less of an issue with no emissions :).

Random / Electric Surf Vehicles in 2020
« on: August 22, 2019, 04:23:56 AM »
It seems like 2020 may be the year that we start seeing viable surf EV's in the USA.  I am stoked on that idea!  The Mercedes EQV van looks really nice with 253 miles of range.  An 80% charge in 45 minutes sounds good.  99 MPH will make Chan happy.  I still yell at people for flashing me off at 65 "what's your rush, Andretti".  Looks like Mercedes, VW and possibly others will also have some smaller SUV's available.  The VW ID BUZZ looks great as well but I believe that is slated for 2022.  Hopefully the US sees all of these.

Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / F-One Swing
« on: August 21, 2019, 03:40:07 PM »
I gave in to a growing interest and bought one of the F-one Swing wings today.  I could only find a 3.5 but that is a great size for us.  First reaction out of the bag was, holy shit is this thing light.  Scale time.  The Swing is 3 lbs even on my bathroom scale.  Damn!  Our smaller 3 meter Duotone and SPG are 4.6 and 4.8 lbs respectively.    I wonder what the 2.8 weighs.  I am not yet sure how important weight is (as these are all relatively very light)...but I sure am interested to see.  Tomorrow looks solid so we may get to find out :).  It also came with a cool little (3 foot) wrist leash that is just long enough to reach the back strut handle (plus about 6 inches of slack).  I Ordered the rest of the sizes as well.  More soon...

Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Waterstarts
« on: August 21, 2019, 07:47:09 AM »
PS:  Just searching around I found this product.  It is a pad with various insert options.  This may be a good choice for you and save some headaches.

Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Waterstarts
« on: August 21, 2019, 04:45:26 AM »
Kids! :)

Did you sit on it yet?  Have yo put a straight edge on the bottom?  I am wondering how flat it is in the tail and how far forward it stays flat.

I am nowhere near ready to be working on this that means it is time to start :)

Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Waterstarts
« on: August 20, 2019, 02:56:06 AM »

This is well worth watching.  I dig the forward thinking that F-one has for Wingsurfing.  They talk low wind (these guys are foiling in under 10 Knots) waterstarts, harness use, windows, wing weight, board size and their upcoming wing specific board line (starting at 4 feet :) ).  The minimal design of that wing is very cool.  I definitely want to try that out.  I am only using two of the five handle positions on my wings and I never use the angle grips. 

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