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The Shape Shack / Finally Shaped my first board
« on: February 02, 2019, 07:40:09 PM »
I originally bought a used SUP for 200 bucks and rode it for a year and then kind of outgrew it.  So I decided to re-shape it into a shape I’d been thinking about for years.

I always like the tear drop shape with a skinny nose and wider tail.  Inspired by the Nugget surfboard made by McCoy from Australia
http://mccoysurfboards.com/surfboard-models/nugget-info

I went a little more extreme thinning the nose out.

Starting board specs.
8’2” x 31.5” x 4.5”.  Between 120-130 liters I estimated.

Re-shaped board specs
7’8” x 28.5 x 4.5.  Right at 105 Liters.

This was my first time attempting to shape a board.  I’ve done some repairs before on the deck pad, tail and the rails but never the entire thing.

First thing I did was download Shape 3D and start playing around with some shapes.  Finally I came up with something I liked and would fit into the dimensions of my existing board.



After deciding on it I printed it out and went into the garage and starting marking up my board with a sharpie and a 4’ level.  Marked the center line, this board had a stringer so it was easy to find.  Then marked out every 6” and put markings on where the new board would be. 



Once I finished everything I got a 6” metal cutting blade on my jig saw and just followed the line.  I took a little too much foam off in some spots but put it back on with some gorilla glue.



Then I took a thin cutoff disc and scored the fiberglass 8” back from my cut around the entire board.  Then I peeled off the glass using a putty knife to not remove too much foam.  From there I was free to re-shape my new rails.

Here it is roughed out





Here it is a little finer but still some spots that required filling.



Finally a first coat of fiberglass.  It wasn’t pretty and I need to sand and re-apply.  I sanded through in a bunch of spots trying to get it smooth.  Lesson learned spend more time getting the foam perfect and less time sanding glass!  After 2-3 times of glassing/sanding cycle I started to really dig the shape.



Time to install the center fin box.  4.5” up from the tail



Onto the side fins.  Rears 6” off the tail, fronts 14” off the tail and 1.5” off the rail.  On the fronts I did 1/4” toe in with a 8 degree cant.  Rear fins I did 1/8” toe in with 4 degree cant.  I decided to do that from some recommended numbers from the forum.  I marked a few of the recommended setups on the board and went with that looked best to me.



Then did 2 hot coats to get everything leveled out to where I was happy.



Finally did a 2 tone red/white paint job. Should have bought better masking tape had some bleed through.  Finished it all off with 2 coats of clear coat on top



Last step was to install a BPS Deckpad from amazon paired with a Go Stevie kick pad on the tail and it was time to hit the water.









The first day the water was like a washing machine.  Still able to stand up but not great for learning or building confidence.  I was able to stand 3-5 minutes at a time and then ended up falling.  Lots of moving water.  Reducing the front width of the board takes some getting used to.  I caught 3 waves, 2 were survival waves where I just tried to keep upright, but the final one gave me a nicer ride and I was able to do a few turns.  I tried it with a thruster setup with the center fin all the way back and it felt stiff.  Took a few nosedives but it was tough to say if it was the board or just the choppy conditions.

Second day I rode it with a quad setup.  Much faster and looser more of what I was looking for.  Waves cleaned up and I could get comfortable with my stance.  Stood with a staggered stance with one foot up front and one back helped.  I really have to put my foot way up front to drop in on a wave, further than I expected.  I needed to put some grip up past the vent plug so I could force the nose down on steeper drops without slipping off.  Once in the wave though the board is fast and maneuverable.  Still a lot to learn, but I always love a challenge.

I will update as I get more rides in on it.

Hope you enjoyed the build process.

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Classifieds / 8'2" x 31" Surfcore SUP - Cocoa Beach - $450 OBO
« on: December 11, 2018, 12:26:25 PM »
8'2" Surfcore SUP

8'2" x 31" Wide. Between 120-130 liters. I'm 185lbs and it floats me no problem.

Great board. Has 5 fin boxes so you can surf as a thruster or a quad. Fast down the line, great for Florida waves. Stable in chop. Has a nice concave throughout. Great glide to catch waves early.

Here is a video of the board in action.


The board has some repairs but all have been properly glassed over. The board is 100% water tight and ready to surf!

Selling because I got a smaller board.

Located in Cocoa Beach, FL
Asking $450 OBO.






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Gear Talk / Wide Tail Board Sliding Out with Quads
« on: December 03, 2018, 06:18:48 PM »
I'm having a issues with my wider tailed board sliding out on my on bottom turns and hard turns in general.  I recently got a smaller more performance oriented board for bigger better days.  It has a thruster fin setup and really got me to lay into my bottom turns.  Then when I returned to riding my wide tail board I found I would slide the tail out if I put the same pressure to turn the performance board.  I've got a Future Controller Quad setup on the board.  I find I have to feather my turns on my wide tail board to keep drive and hold.  I can only put about 75% of what I  want to to keep from sliding out.  As I keep progressing and getting better I'm wondering is this just a characteristic of wide tail boards?  Should I switch my board over to a thruster setup instead, or is there a quad setup that will provide better hold?

The wide tail board is 7'4" x 32" Custom board.  The performance board is a 8'4" x 28 Lokahi Custom Pro.

Here are some pics of the boards trying to determine the difference.  Wide tail board the front fins are 20" apart, rears are 15" apart.  On my performance board the fronts are 15" apart.  The wide tail has a fin depth of 4.5" while the performance has 4.75".  Overall I have a lot more fin area on the wide tail board which I thought would give me the hold I need.















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Gear Talk / SUP Board Shapes - Fitting into the pocket
« on: July 26, 2018, 06:41:00 PM »
I'm progressing in my surfing ability and it's brought about some new questions I have about board shapes.  I bought a L41 SimSup and things took off from there.  I've been trying all different type of board shapes and sizes since.  The one thing I've found my L41 is lacking is that ability to get in the barrel or get tight up in the pocket.  When I get to a critical section I seem to either dig a rail, or my board wants to flip itself over.  I know the general concept of more rocker, narrower board will fit the wave and hold better in steeper waves.  I've just have a hard time understanding exactly why that works.  I've tried doing some research but I'm still a little lost.  I was hoping someone with more experience than me could walk me through characteristics that make a board perform better on bigger barrelling days vs my normal Florida mush and why.

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Classifieds / L41 SimSup 8'4" x 31" 136L - Cocoa Beach
« on: June 27, 2018, 06:53:04 PM »
L41 SimSup ST
8'4"x 31.5"
136L
http://www.l41surfcraft.com/models/

Bought new in August 2017. Surfed for 6 months. Selling because I scaled down to a smaller board.
Board is in great shape, surfs amazing.
Speed down the line is perfect for Florida beach breaks.
Stable in chop and a great all around board.

$850 OBO
Cocoa Beach, FL



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Gear Talk / Longboard style SUP recommendation
« on: March 03, 2017, 06:08:00 PM »
I want to get opinions on other sups that are similar to the riviera nugg.  Not a lot of rocker 32" wide and setup like a longboard.  I mostly ride Florida east coast cocoa beach area and I like that the nugg is relatively short only 9'2" and still has great glide.  Length is important to me since I stay in hotels when I ride and need to get it into an elevator and into tight spaces.  I was considering stepping down to an 8'11" x 32" Exocet fish but I'm worried it's more of a performance oriented board.  I like how I can take the nugg out in 1' mushy surf or 6'+ overhead and still enjoy the day.  I also love how It can handle chop.  I go every day no matter what even if it's blowing 20mph I still paddle.  I hardly ever fall off the nugg.  I tried a Gerry Lopez stun gun 9'2 and it was way to unstable in chop for me.  I like to kind of wait for a wave and not constantly paddle to keep stability.  Riding that was more of a chore and it was considerably harder to catch a wave.  I'm not someone who rips, I like that I can get on a wave walk to the nose and hangout or pump the board and generate speed.  I like that I can have a relaxing ride or try to do some turns instead of constantly having to work for speed.  I'm 185lbs 6'2" in good shape 34 years old and just want something that can handle mushy surf up to head high.  I was thinking a carbon nugg or nugg turbo but I see a lot of other options, nsp has a cocoa matt and sunova has a shroom model that looks nice.  Just wanted input on other fairly short boards that have that same glide and ability to catch small waves.  The other thing I've considered
Is changing my fin setup to increase performance without losing glide.  Single fin or smaller thruster setup.

Here is a video of me on the nugg in cocoa beach on a very small but fun day.


Thanks!

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Gear Talk / Jimmy Lewis 9’2” Rental - Florida Board Advice
« on: June 08, 2014, 09:29:39 AM »
I took a vacation last week to Singer Island, FL and wound up renting a Jimmy Lewis 9’2” board.  I wanted to try something smaller and more performance oriented.  I wasn't looking for something so performance oriented but that's all the had.  The other boards I own are a 10’5 Starboard Drive and a 12’6 KM Compressor.  At 6'2" and 195lbs this was quite a drop to a 9’2 with 124L from a 10’5 with 160L.

First impressions of the board were it was quite stable for what I expected.  I thought I would be surfing prone by the end of the day.  In fact it was quite the opposite I found that after I got over my initial wobbles it felt very stable.  The other few things that took getting used to was that constantly paddling forward helped tremendously in board stabilization.  Before I would paddle out and just wait around for a wave. I felt like I had to stand further back on the board and it got more stable.

Things I liked about the board were it floated me well, it surfed amazing, easy to catch chest high waves, Super fast down the line, easy to turn. 
Things that I was concerned about was stability in chop.  As the day wore on and the chop picked up it turned into a washing machine out there.  I ended up constantly correcting and made catching waves difficult.  I wasn’t sure how the board would do in smaller waves as I was blessed with some chest high swell while I tried it out (which I hear is uncommon for Florida in the summer).

Before renting this board I had my eye on the 2014 8’11 Fanatic Allwave.  Now I’m considering the 8’6” Allwave or perhaps a ProWave as a 124L board floated me.  The reason I was leaning towards Fanatic boards were they have a mast insert which sounds fun.  A concern about the Allwave is the rail thickness, I really liked how the Jimmy Lewis had nice thin rails.

Any suggestions on other boards to look at in this size range that are good for Florida waves?

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Gear Talk / Intro to the forum and smaller board suggestions
« on: June 20, 2013, 07:23:15 AM »
I'm new to the forum.  I'll start off with an introduction and then a story.  I've been reading the forum for quite some time and really enjoyed the new board reviews and tips & tricks.

I purchased my first SUP (Starboard Drive 10'5") last year after enjoying a SUP rental in Florida.  They rented me an 8'10" SUP which was way to small for learning.  I fell a ton, mostly paddled prone but did get some waves later in the day standing as the wind died and the chop flattened out.  Had a blast.
I truly wanted the starboard nose-rider, but it wasn't available at the surf shop and the Drive was close enough to it I thought I'd give it a try.  I ended up falling in love with it.  The fact that I could paddle away from crowded breaks and find my own break down the beach all to myself.  I liked the fact that it was a good flatwater paddler, wide enough to handle chop, and a breeze to catch waves with.  I also liked the longboard look and feel to the board since I was familiar with that shape.
 
Here is the story part.  I ended up paddling down from my local beach about a mile or so to get to one particular break I liked best.  I made that my routine almost every weekend. One day in early July surfing at my spot I noticed something pushing water out by the lobster pots.  As it came closer I got excited and was thinking, sunfish, tuna, whale?  Then the fin came up.  It came in closer and then stayed about 100 yards off the beach and swam north.  It passed by me and I was just in awe.  Then it picked up my scent in the water or sensed me and abruptly turned 180 degrees back towards me.  I started paddling for shore, but once I got into shallower water over the sandbar (it was high tide) it lost interest and swam back north.  The fin came up quite a few times and was quite a sight to see.  I tried yelling to some tourists on the beach but I couldn't get anyone's attention.  I finally ended up paddling into shore and then thought to myself, it's headed for the public beach!  I threw my board back into the water and paddled back towards the beach as fast as I could.  By the time I got to the life guard station to run up and warn them, I noticed the shark was right behind a kayaker.  I started yelling and waving, it took quite some time to get his attention.  Luckily he saw the shark and paddled in safely.  He had another friend out even further but the shark took no interest in him and he made it in fine.  I was glad everyone was fine and headed home to tell my wife and friends the amazing story of what happened.  I figured that was the end of it.  The next day on the front of our local newspaper was this picture.



At first I was shocked someone had gotten a picture, but it was nice since no one believed me how close the shark was to the kayaker.  Just glad no one got hurt and gives me a great ice breaker like right now!

Anyways glad to be signed up for the forum!  I am interested getting into a smaller board and this seems like a great place to ask for advice.  The 10'5" Drive is great but I've been very interested in the reviews of the smaller boards like the Allwave 8'10" and Exocet 8'11".  This downsizing may be a little bit too aggressive though, perhaps I should be looking more into a larger board like an Allwave 9'6"?

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