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Classifieds / Naish S25 3.6 meter used once, in Hood River
« on: July 23, 2020, 07:09:49 AM »
Used exactly once, in fresh water.  No damage or repairs.  Available for inspection in HR.  Our family just has too much overlap in wings.  Asking $540.

Used my Swing 3.5 today in winds averaging low 20s with gusts into the upper 20s (mph).  Great session with lots of swell riding but mostly maxed out on the 3.5.   I need something smaller for windier days.  There are no FOne 2.8s available for a while as far as I know.  I am attracted to the Cloud wings but the 3 is not available and I think the gap to the 2.2 is too large.  What to do?  Any other good options? We have some big winds coming up.  Definitely a first world problem. Thanks

Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Armstrong HS 1850
« on: July 11, 2020, 07:56:30 AM »
Newest and largest of the HS foils.  Interestingly, almost identical in span and area to the Axis 920.  I find myself struggling in avg 15-16 conditions with my CF 1600 as my wife has our 2400.  Mostly due to a skill/experience deficit but hoping the 1850 will help.  We are NOT going to own two 2400s  :).  Any other Armstrong users think the gap between the CF 2400 and 1600 is too large?

Classifieds / Naish S25 5.3 and 4.6
« on: July 08, 2020, 06:07:49 AM »
Both wings have been used about 5 times and are in excellent condition with no damage or repair history.  My wife and I just have too much overlap in wings.  In Hood River.  Will split US shipping with buyer.  Pictures available upon request.

Naish 5.3:  $680

Naish 4.6:  $630

Wanted to get some input on this as I am just beginning to explore downwind/swell riding.  I have found the easiest is to just hold the wing horizontally overhead with both hands. Works ok but zero style points.  Today I worked on complete flag out by grabbing leading edge handle as I turned downwind while toeside on a swell and pumped a few times to keep going but I had limited success regrabbing my wing to power up again and usually crashed.  Any thoughts?

Classifieds / Naish 5.3 meter in Hood River
« on: July 04, 2020, 06:23:30 PM »
Like new condition, used 5 or 6 times.  No damage or repairs.  Asking $720.  Includes leash, bag and repair kit.  Prefer local sale.  We just have too many wings.

First time in fresh water, boy what a difference. My board sank a lot more than I am used to. Also the current  and gusts takes getting used to.  Bit rusty but fun session with naish 4.6.  Not as many wingers here as I had expected.

Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Learning to tack
« on: June 15, 2020, 02:11:59 AM »
I am pretty comfortable now gybing and foot switching in both directions and want to start working on tacking.

Do people find heelside to toeside easier or the opposite?  My preference is to try toeside to heelside first.

Any key tips or videos that really helped?



Classifieds / Naish S25 6 meter
« on: June 11, 2020, 03:05:02 AM »
Naish S25 Wing Surfer 6 Meter in excellent condition.  Used 4 times.  No damage or repairs.  Includes the newer bag and leash.  Asking $820.

Can a middle aged woman with essentially zero wind or board sports experience learn to wing foil?  And if so, how long will it take?  I am going to post her progress here as this might help others who are just starting or curious about how difficult this sport might be to learn.  I will also discuss the specific challenges we face and their resolutions.

She is fit and athletic (cyclist, masters rower and  canoe paddler) but otherwise no experiences which might directly translate to wing foiling except a little bit of recreational SUP a few years ago.  She did take a couple of kitesurfing lessons over 10 years ago but found the power of the kite intimidating and did not pursue it.

She decided about a month ago that she wanted to learn to wing (with no encouragement from me), so here we go:

My first concern was that she is tall (6-2, 70 kg with long legs) and would not be able to stand up on the board, so we tried it on the floor.  She IS able to go from kneeling to front foot forward to standing while holding her hands above her head.  Check.

Next, we spent a few sessions just handling the wing on the beach or kneeling on a SUP and sailing around in light wind.  No problem.

This may have been my first mistake but at this point, we went to a foilboard.  It was my beginner board, a JL 6-5 x 28 inches, 115 L.  She is 70 Kg.  I attached an Armstrong 24 inch mast and 2400 wing to it so she could get used to the foil.  This setup was VERY difficult for her.  Lots of falling just trying to kneel on it.  Trying to plant front foot from a kneeling position while flying a wing was prohibitively difficult.

So we went with a bigger foilboard.  Armstrong 6-6 x 30, 132 L and we have been using it since.  At this point, we found a friend who was willing to take us behind his boat.  Get behind a boat and learn to foil.  Easy, right?  We have had 4 sessions behind the boat.  In the beginning, she tried to do a kneeling start using line tension to help but she couldn't really get past planting her front foot without falling so we abandoned that and worked on just her standing up (using one hand on the board while holding rope with the other) and this worked much better.  After 4 boat sessions, she is able to stand consistently and ride on the surface pretty well.  She has had 2-3 seconds of foiling before crashing.  We hope to get behind the again soon as she is finally close to foiling consistently.

As far as windy water sessions, she has had a few with really light wind and 3 with wind in the 14-17 MPH average range and she has stayed with the same wing (F-one 5 meter, only 3 handles  :)).  Even with the bigger board she was not able to come close to standing from a kneeling position for the first several sessions. Lots of crashes as you can imagine.   At the end of a session last week with 15 mph winds, she stood for a few seconds before crashing.

We read Admin's technique for standing from a kneeling position so this morning we tried it.  We had 15 MPH winds and did a 2.5 mile down winder.  She exactly one success today:  She stood and rode on the surface for 10 seconds!!!  Otherwise, she fell trying to stand about 25 times but she does like planting her front foot while holding on to the board.  She said riding while standing felt very stable.

So we are about 12 sessions in (including 4 behind a boat) and we had a break through today when she stood and rode for 10 seconds.  I believe she will get there but I think those of us who have been surfing/kiting/windsurfing, etc may not truly appreciate how difficult standing on a moving board is to a novice.

Regrets:  1.  Should have stayed on SUP longer.  2.  When she first started having trouble planting her front foot, we should have changed techniques sooner.  Using her hands on the board to get her front foot planted made a big difference both behind the boat and with a wing.

Our family is wing committed.  I just ordered a set of  "her's" Fone wings.

More progress reports to come.

Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / BRM Wings
« on: May 25, 2020, 02:46:42 PM »

He is a thoughtful, innovative designer and great foiler.  Interesting to see how his wings do.

Learning, 9 sessions in.  Foiling is both directions with "enough" wind but a big slap down yesterday in winds too light for my experience level.  Was able to get front half of board off water with vigorous wing pumping a couple of times but just could not get the board pumps in at right time to pop up.  When I am pumping the wing hard, I just don't seem to be able to get any board pumps in.  The natural move seems to be to coordinate unweighting my legs at same time as pulling wing that correct?  Any input appreciated, as usual. 

When on foil, my front forearm feels like I am hanging off a bar and I am unable to ride very far due to fatigue.  I am trying to keep it fully extended and fly the wing at about 45 degrees.  Naish 5.3 in 15 mph winds using the third handle from the front (second handle from the back for my other hand).  Is there something I can do differently (besides a harness) or are my arms just weak?  Input greatly appreciated.

Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Upwind on foil
« on: April 20, 2020, 11:54:23 AM »
Starting to ride upwind but think angles could be better.  Looking for pointers to maximize upwind angle.  Does holding wing more vertical help?  Maybe tilt mast more?  I know people like a harness for this but I am not ready to take that step yet.

Foil SUP / Doesn't something like this change everything?
« on: April 14, 2020, 04:40:02 AM »

Turn it on while surface paddling and then off once on foil.

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