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Foil SUP / SUP Foil Technique
« on: November 23, 2016, 10:54:03 AM »
Trouble staying up on foil, any ideas?
I just started SUP surf foiling here in Kauai and it’s not going all that well yet. I don’t know if it’s technique, conditions, equipment, or all of the above. I’d love to hear some suggestions on improving my setup or technique or just some encouragement.
Me: 50 year old, 250 lb, proficient at SUP surfing.
My gear: Liquid force low aspect kite foil, liquid force fuselage, slingshot 24” mast, Jimmy Lewis WorldWide 9’3”. I have two long us-fin boxes installed as a track which allows the foil to be mounted in different positions. I also have the slingshot flight school masts (15”, 24”, 30”) so i can change those around if need be. Of note is that the board I am using is the same model as my go to SUP that I super comfortable on in all conditions.
I’ve had 6 sessions so far, in a variety of conditions. My progression/observations:
1. Day 1: figured out the gear setup, used the 15” mast cause I figured wipeout would be easier to handle, had some trouble paddling straight, caught 10 or so waves - the foil lifted twice and tossed me immediately
2. Day 2: added center fin to board to see if that would help with paddling straight, it did. caught 5 small waves, the foil never lifted.
3. Day 3: switched to 24” mast, I caught a dozen or so waves and was able to get the foil to engage and disengage by working on front and back foot pressure. I did a lot of see-sawing up and down, not really controlled, and the board was never out of the water for more than 2 seconds
4. Day 4: Marked pad to indicate exactly where mast is when in the middle of the track. Experimented with foot positioning behind, on, and in front of mast. It appears that by keeping my center of gravity forward the the foil stays or goes down and by putting it further back makes it engage. Still not able to stay on foil for more than 2 seconds although I am not see-sawing quite as much and not getting tossed every time it engages.
5. Day 5: Too small, caught some whitewash, board got up and planing but foil never engaged. then caught one freak wave that was just overhead and foil engaged as I made the steep drop. Scared the crap out of me! I was trying to go into a normal bottom turn, the board turned on the face to the right but somehow threw me off to the outside of the turn on the left and I got crunched. Everything tumbled in the washing machine - luckily I didn’t make contact with my gear and I was fine.
6. Day 6: Tried the 30” mast, foil engaged twice, but only when I forced it. I fell on the mast once and bruised my forearm. I’m now thinking the way to go about this is to let the foil engage on it’s own, which I assume will happen only when I have the correct amount of foot pressure and lots of speed. The trouble is I don’t know how to consistently generate more speed without getting on bigger waves and, frankly, that scares me.
So what do you all think I should do next? Gear adjustment? Go for it bigger waves? Change technique somehow to get more speed?
I just started SUP surf foiling here in Kauai and it’s not going all that well yet. I don’t know if it’s technique, conditions, equipment, or all of the above. I’d love to hear some suggestions on improving my setup or technique or just some encouragement.
Me: 50 year old, 250 lb, proficient at SUP surfing.
My gear: Liquid force low aspect kite foil, liquid force fuselage, slingshot 24” mast, Jimmy Lewis WorldWide 9’3”. I have two long us-fin boxes installed as a track which allows the foil to be mounted in different positions. I also have the slingshot flight school masts (15”, 24”, 30”) so i can change those around if need be. Of note is that the board I am using is the same model as my go to SUP that I super comfortable on in all conditions.
I’ve had 6 sessions so far, in a variety of conditions. My progression/observations:
1. Day 1: figured out the gear setup, used the 15” mast cause I figured wipeout would be easier to handle, had some trouble paddling straight, caught 10 or so waves - the foil lifted twice and tossed me immediately
2. Day 2: added center fin to board to see if that would help with paddling straight, it did. caught 5 small waves, the foil never lifted.
3. Day 3: switched to 24” mast, I caught a dozen or so waves and was able to get the foil to engage and disengage by working on front and back foot pressure. I did a lot of see-sawing up and down, not really controlled, and the board was never out of the water for more than 2 seconds
4. Day 4: Marked pad to indicate exactly where mast is when in the middle of the track. Experimented with foot positioning behind, on, and in front of mast. It appears that by keeping my center of gravity forward the the foil stays or goes down and by putting it further back makes it engage. Still not able to stay on foil for more than 2 seconds although I am not see-sawing quite as much and not getting tossed every time it engages.
5. Day 5: Too small, caught some whitewash, board got up and planing but foil never engaged. then caught one freak wave that was just overhead and foil engaged as I made the steep drop. Scared the crap out of me! I was trying to go into a normal bottom turn, the board turned on the face to the right but somehow threw me off to the outside of the turn on the left and I got crunched. Everything tumbled in the washing machine - luckily I didn’t make contact with my gear and I was fine.
6. Day 6: Tried the 30” mast, foil engaged twice, but only when I forced it. I fell on the mast once and bruised my forearm. I’m now thinking the way to go about this is to let the foil engage on it’s own, which I assume will happen only when I have the correct amount of foot pressure and lots of speed. The trouble is I don’t know how to consistently generate more speed without getting on bigger waves and, frankly, that scares me.
So what do you all think I should do next? Gear adjustment? Go for it bigger waves? Change technique somehow to get more speed?