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Classifieds / 9' 10 Blue Planet Turbo
« on: December 23, 2020, 10:07:09 AM »
I am going all-in on L41. Just started talking to Kirk so some of my favorites going on the block.

Blue Planet Turbo 9'10 x 33 161l Carbon construction

The board is located in Southern NJ. asking $950. I am willing to meet and also maybe headed up to New England Xmas week.

The board has a few nicks but is in overall very good condition. I am including the JM 5 fins and the board bag that come with it.

Sincerely, this is a great board from overhead to 1 ft waves, Super stable and easy to turn.

I will also be listing my 9'7 Creek (green) XXX construction. It is in the shop getting a very minor repair before listing. If interested please DM me and we can work out a pre-listing price.

SUP General / Quarantine Quiver Update, whatcha riding?
« on: April 07, 2020, 02:25:30 PM »
Been a while since someone has posted quiver updates and LBsup's new purchase inspired me!

My current quiver (I am 6'2 250 and 55 years)

8'11 Sunova Shroom:  I know its condition specific but this board is just so much fun and I take it out more then I should. Shoutout to Cove Water Paddle Surf  in Santa Cruz for shipping consignment to NJ. Olivier is straight up good people. Maybe I'll throw on a foil one of these days.

9'7 Sunova Creek: Still my go to board, handles anything I surf.

9'10 Blue Planet Turbo full carbon: Robert makes a great board and I do not grab this board enough. First and only pin tail I have surfed. The pin tail is silky smooth and gets great hold. Was so much fun to surf during hurricane season.

All three boards come in just around 160 liters.

9'10 Fanatic All wave circa 2014. My first wave rider. It just sits now. I ripped the nose off and repaired myself. Every once in a blue moon I will put it in the water. Corky for sure but a wave rider.

« on: January 26, 2020, 10:39:58 AM »
Holy Moly!!! Not much to say. This speaks for its self!


SUP General / Historic Fall Surf in the Northeast
« on: November 11, 2019, 09:07:23 PM »
Really super video of NJ/East coast surf. This is more like a documentary. As for the Fall, it really tested my abilities. Had some incredible days and a few where I should have stayed home. Having started surfing later in life this was really my first time in waves with the size and power that the fall brought. Definitely going through a little withdrawal from the challenges, the thrill of when it all comes together and the consistent waves. Watching this video really put the fall into perspective for me.

5/4's, hoods, boots, gloves and the loneliness  of winter surf ahead!

Overall, Southern NJ is SUP friendly. Ben mostly surfs the more rough and tumble breaks in the area that are really not the most Sup friendly. Every town has those areas and most of us just avoid them.

El Slammo is also known as The Wedge of the East Coast. I will occasionally walk over, I have yet to see a SUP and I won't be the first. 

There is one Sup in the video see if you can find it!


SUP General / The price of new boards/how do you choose?
« on: August 04, 2019, 09:40:15 PM »
I guess part of the journey is finding the next board. Just an observation but once you get past a starter board and as you take your surfing to new heights a new board from a quality builder is  about $1700+ and in most cases add shipping. Sunova, Jimmy Lewis, Naish, Kings, L41, Supsports, Blue Planet, Infinity and JP are all around $1700 (L41's starter price is cheaper but you have to add the good stuff). And Starboard goes higher. Bic and Fanatic a little less. Most are tough to demo, particularly on the east coast. If you are XXL like me even tougher to demo. I own a Sunova and man it takes a licking. It is so interesting to me to see the differences and similarities in construction and design of similar boards but what separates them? Personal preference I guess. But I figure the durability of the build really is the value because the idea would be: expensive but many good years of use makes it worthwhile.

And going used means you have to find the right one because you are usually still talking $1,000+ or taking the risk it was properly repaired.

I have been shopping used and new but I think if I am going to spend that kind of money every couple of year I am going to have it built custom for me. Really curious how the cost conscious make their decisions. New, used, custom, stock, demo or just based on reviews?

SUP General / Time to compliment my 9'7 Creek, help me choose.
« on: July 27, 2019, 02:30:41 PM »
Time to compliment my 9'7 Creek, help me choose.

It took me some time to find a board that offered the stability and performance I was looking for to grow my surfing. I found the 9'7 Creek and my love for the board runs deep. However, the board needs some juice to shine. This summer has been mushy and small on the Jersey Shore magnifying my need for adding a board to the quiver.

So some background, like many as I progressed my choice was to drop volume and size. This only led to me buying and selling boards that were way too unstable to be fun. I am off the go smaller kick. My priorities are stability first and performance second.


55 years old and not getting younger.
I have been surfing for 5 years.
6'2 250
Intermediate Surfer defined as can bottom and top turn in each direction and occasionally hit some cutbacks. I need to get better at getting back on the tail.
The 9'7 Creek is stable in full winter gear. Added bonus I love the toughness of the Sunova. The lift Sup is problematic in the winter.
 I surf NJ beach break from 1 foot to about 2 feet over head max.
The 9'7 Creek feels smaller then 9'0 boards I've been on.

Two boards sing to me as stable, performance and match my wave. A L41 custom ST and the Foote Triton now by Flight boards.  I know they are very different boards. There are boards in the Sunova family that meet my needs and I can demo them but nothing jumps out to me as the 1 board compliment to the Creek.  I would consider long board style but I find them to narrow to offer the stability I want and not my style of surfing. Obviously having Kirk build me a board is enticing.

It is near impossible to Demo many of these boards on the East coast. My question , if you were going to have a two board quiver and one was a 9'7 Creek what would you compliment it with?

Thanks for the help.

SUP General / Winter Surfing
« on: March 04, 2019, 07:09:29 PM »
3 days of some solid swell this weekend on the Jersey shore. (I smell a Surfercook video coming). Each day a little different wind, swell direction, size and temperatures. While I yearn for board shorts, there is just something exhilarating about winter surfing. The  intimacy, the loneliness, the sense of accomplishment, the sense of wonderment, the power, the bees stinging your face getting flushed and the craziness of 30 degree temps with wind chills in the teens and ocean temps in the 30's. I had seals barking at me on Saturday and sun set today. As I was loading up after my session today and older couple walking their dog commented;  "you're crazy" and kept walking...the woman turned and walked back and said;  "or very, very passionate!" I could barely speak from my numbiness and I said "thanks, at 55 a little of both but had some fun ones today"  I don't think they were surfers or understood  what I meant by "fun ones" but the words just felt like poetry coming out of my mouth. Winter surfing may not be for everyone, I'm not even sure its for me but there is something spiritual about it!

Classifieds / 9'4 Fanatic Allwave w/5 fin box
« on: February 10, 2019, 10:24:04 AM »
2016 9'4 Fanatic Allwave 173L. Purchased  in 2017 new and used it for a year. A few minor blemishes with no dings. RS Pro tape on the rails. The 2016 model is one of the few years the HRS came with a five fin box. I am including the JL5 quad fins pictured as well as the Fanatic thruster fins. IMHO the board runs better as a quad and the JL 5's are the perfect fins for anyone who would surf it.

The board is located in Southern NJ and would be willing to me at Zoner a reasonable distance.  The asking price is $750 but I would consider a trade.

PM if interested.

SUP General / Any one find a creative solution to the LIFTSUP
« on: January 01, 2019, 08:15:11 PM »
The Liftsup is well documented on the Zone but not much recently. Has anyone found a creative solution beyond replacing the handle or a piece of string with 5mm gloves on. The string helps but only marginally. I'm thinking of going from a claw to five finger gloves and using the pinky as I didn't have troubles with a 3mm. Winter surfing is fun but  challenging  enough so if you have figured something out please share.

SUP General / Any Reason Not to! Roof tie down.
« on: November 28, 2018, 07:59:06 PM »
Got the wife a new four wheel drive vehicle. I threw some roof racks on it because we have some breaks you can park on the beach near me but I only go occasionally to meet a proner buddy. 5 minute walk from street parking. This is not my regular POS surf car.  Anyway, the wife is not happy with the reduced gas milage and the very slight hum from her new car since adding the racks. They are a pain to put on and take off. Unscrewing the antenna seems much easier.  I saw this video and I know Rob is very well respected. Any reason not to do? Also,  I always strap my boards fins up and towards the front of the vehicle. He has no fin on the board.  All looks secure to me  but that ain't saying much. Only down side I see is having to walk around the car.


SUP General / Surfing at the Jersey Shore
« on: October 31, 2018, 04:24:55 PM »

Really nice article about about high school surf teams by a reporter who does high school sports justice. You can feel the Jersey Stoke!!!!


And the link below is for the Dean Randazzo Cancer Foundation referenced in the article. If you are looking for an organized  paddle on the East Coast keep it in mind for next summer. They host a 22 miler called Paddle for a Cause. A great event around the island Atlantic City is home to. They also have a four mile fun paddle!


SUP General / 9'7 Creek meets Flo
« on: September 13, 2018, 08:33:39 PM »
Flo has delivered three days of super fun to Jersey. Tuesday- no wind and some nice soft rolling chest high waves, Wednesday-no wind, big and just plain special, today-windy so had to find a spot to pick up the swell with out being blown out so found a spot that was delivering waist-chest high and some wind protection. All three days had plenty of juice and plenty of fog which added to the allure. I don't have a lot to compare it to and I know I continue to improve as a surfer but man did this board shine on all three days. To quote the Sunova website "the performance rocker needs a bit of juice to shine". From  nose to tail the board was alive. It was at it's best on Wednesday when I was surfing waves I would consider above my pay grade. All 9'7 160 liters of it. I wish I had the background and knowledge to put it to words but I can't express enough how happy I am that I went with the 9'7 over the 9'4. From mush to Flo it surfs great and is super comfortable. To quote the Sunova web site again "incredibly organic synergy". Well after these three days, I understand what this means!

Looking forward to hearing about (and seeing) Flo sessions so please post them.  It's so much fun to share the Stoke!!!!

Travel, Trips, Destinations / So Cal Homebase
« on: July 31, 2018, 02:46:21 PM »
Convinced the wife (nonsurfer) to a  4 night getaway/surf getaway midweek  in January. After much debate we settled on Southern California. There is much info here on the Zone about SUP friendly locations. I feel pretty good I can find a rental and a spot that works for me although I may ask went I closer to January. I am looking for what is the best location (home base) for seeing the area including a one day trek to Disneyland (that was the deal I get to surf and she gets Disneyland) and also experience the So Cal areas.  We have a pretty broad area to consider as we figure anywhere between San Clemente and La Jolla. Neither of us have ever been to the area so any thoughts would help. Being closer to Anaheim is not an issue, we are both early risers and an extra half hour drive won't hurt us. Really our only condition is an area where we can sit on a balcony, stare at the ocean and have a cup of coffee. Thanks for your advice.

The statsÖ55 years old, 6í2 245 and athletic for an older guy, caught my first wave ever at 53 and have surfed exclusively Fanatic Allwaves  on the Jersey shore until the arrival of my 9í7 Creek. I decided to log my first 10 hours and give a review from a less experienced surferís perspective. Sorry this is long but I enjoyed journaling my thoughts to paper and while  I canít account for its accuracy I can say it describes  my perceptions of the Sunova Creek!


I started looking for a new board after emerging as a more intermediate surfer this fall and winter. The biggest factor of wanting to find a new board was the Fanatic tail would slide out as soon as waves start getting some juice particular off the first turn.  I first looked to go smaller but after demoing some smaller lower volume boards, I was just too uncomfortable in any wind or chop. I recall my experience on an 8í6 Shroom a board that should feel super stable and I just did not like the shortness of it. I knew I wanted the comfort of volume, width and length.  Stability  was key for me. I started to zero in on a handful of boards that would equal more performance and stability for a bigger guy. My list came down to Jimmy Lewis World Wide, Foote Triton, Kings Super Simmons, custom  L41, Sunova Creek and the Sunova Flow. Most of these boards are impossible to demo on the East coast, so I was left to the Zone for research and my test rides on the smaller Shroom and 9í2 Speed. I ended up on the 9í7 Creek based mostly on what I felt was the ideal dimensions and shape for me.

Day 1

Flat water paddling. It felt like an old shoe. I expected to be tippy and fight stability because my current Allwave is a 9í4 174 L so I was looking at a 14L drop. I have to say I was super comfortable. Instantly, three things jumped out. Construction, I know nothing about board construction but you just know this thing is well built and what a pleasure carrying a board so light. Anytime I have handled or been on a Sunova the construction has stood out to me. Next was glide. I expected the performance rocker to slow the board but the board moved with ease. Third was tracking. The board paddled incredibly straight with no yaw. I am sure there is a science to it but just not what I expected. I practiced turning into a wave and I would say this was more of a struggle then I expected based on the ease and the tracking when paddling. It just felt a little stiff. And of course my first attempt at a pivot turn got me wet because the tail sunk way quicker than expected.  So now I needed to surf it and to be honest the lift sup handle worried me.

Day 2

First venture into surf. Forecast waist to chest high, off shore winds at three mph. Ideal conditions. What I got, waist to chest high and 14 mph winds from the North that would shift on shore. In other words a windy choppy mess. This was going to be a disaster. Except it wasnít. My first thought was a post from Supthecreek where he said this is not a stability board but it has stability tools built in. I guess if I went with the 9í4 I would have felt that way but I was incredibly stable, punched through waves easy. First wave I saw, chest high couple of paddles and  I was  in. It was fast but I felt in control. First turn, backside from the middle easy peasy. Again, not an experienced surfer here but I knew I was in the water not on top of the water. The conditions didnít allow for long rides but a couple of turns and I knew I had the right board for me. Second wave of the day was the second one I tried to catch. Two for two. Frontside this time. I felt like all I had to do was think turn and the board turned. I would get a couple of more fun ones before the winds shifted on shore. Struggled catching waves after that. The ocean became disorganized and my Creek wasnít happy with that.  My take away from the day was 9í7 was spot on for me. No way I could have handled the chop and wind on anything smaller without being uncomfortable but with a 3/2 on, double digit winds,  chop, waist high  and a new board I only fell twice in an hour and a half. For sure I would need the 9'7 in winter gear.

Day 3

Three weeks later but waist to chest high clean and some juice. First the negative. Two trips over the falls and I am super cautious to prevent that. No explanation why maybe just not being in the right spot. Again, not an experienced lifelong surfer but I was in awe of the performance of the board. I knew I was moving  significantly faster then on an Allwave but I felt so much more in control on all aspects of the wave. I was making sections I could never make before and the board is just super easy to turn. But then it happened!!!!! Backside wave, chest high (LBsup just posted an awesome picture of our wave that day) in front of me comes a shallower section and I step back on the tail and crank a backside bottom turn and the magic of the board just unleashes. I guess itís the Speed tail but what I thought was a turn before took on new meaning. I felt the board stall under my back heel and accelerate on my toe side. I could feel the lift and while I have had what I considered quality turns before  I could never describe the feeling that way. And then the board just flowed, no thoughts, top turn, bottom turn, and rinse repeat. This flow was a whole new thing for me. Best way to describe it is I was Creek or Cookie in one of their videos (at least in my mind) that I have watched hundreds of times.  What I had mentally processed was now happening! Needless to say, what a super fun day.

Day 4

Next day  leftovers, smaller, knee to waist high. The board and I are just dialed in. I am in total control. Caught whatever I wanted and just was having so much fun turning from the middle, turning from the tail (unlocking the magic) or just staying high on the wave and enjoying the speed of the Creek. I was amazed that it was me surfing these past two days. What was the best part is what was in my mind was actually happening on the water. Went home having watched my passion for this crazy sport just grow even more. One negative observation, the board isnít as happy in smaller stuff. It surfs but patience was required for the bigger sets to really get it flowing. I will still grab the Allwave on smaller days.

Overall Takeaways

Lift Sup Handle: I understand the negative reviews as it can be more challenging in the surf and this is without gloves but the overall carrying of the board is nice particularly in wind.

Going bigger: I have been on smaller boards (not a Creek) but was very happy to not wrestle with stability. For my ability the board outperformed my expectations. There was a 9í2 Speed and 9Ď4 Creek in the water with me and significantly smaller guys on them. I donít know their overall ability but both were noticeably tippy. I think the 1.6 weight to volume for an intermediate surfer is really the right place to be. One more thought performance and smaller boards donít have to be combined. I am sure there are reasons to go smaller but it is not a have to.

The look: Damn this board looks good (mines the green one) in a crowded line up.

The board: I am amazed at this board and all that is written on the Sunova website and on the Zone I found to be true. I cannot speak for more experienced surfers but for an emerging intermediate Sup surfer I could not have asked for more. Not sure my opinions are accurate I can just relay how I perceived it!

Gear Talk / Fanatic Allwave vs. Triton Foote
« on: May 20, 2018, 09:47:30 PM »
Was searching the zone on "big guy" SUS boards and became curious how these two boards compare.  I too have been dropping board size and have been looking at a variety of boards and types of boards  to get more performance (hard not to be enticed by the Creek) but I keep going back to a Simmons type for stability, speed and east coast and size drop.  I do continue to demo but Southwesterly's recent post on 10+ boards has me rethinking the Triton and was curious how these boards compare in the water. The AllWave is a great frame of reference for me because I have worked my way from the 9'10 to the 9'4 to the 9'0 all HRS models. Just seems by reading the reviews that one would get all of the stability and wave catching ease of the Allwave and the performance of some of the more popular reviewed boards on the zone that would work for larger surfers. For frame of reference I am 56, 6'2 252 and still have all three Allwaves.

Obviously, a lot more goes into stability then volume but the 10'4 by 34 Triton at 34 wide in the middle and 174L seems like it would be more stable then any of the Allwaves with thinner rails and more performance in the rocker.

10 x 32 Triton 152L   
10'4 x 34 Triton 174L   
9'0 x 32   Allwave 159L
9'4 x 33  Allwave 173l   
9'10 x 33 Allwave 190L                                   

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