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Gear Talk / Re: SIC RS
« on: May 18, 2019, 06:16:29 AM »
It's the same shape. No changes.

Thanks!

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Gear Talk / SIC RS
« on: May 15, 2019, 12:31:19 PM »
Hello!

Anyone here that knows if there are any differences in the shape between a SIC RS 2018 and 2019?

Thanks!

Henrik F

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Gear Talk / Re: twin-fins-or-more-on-a-race-board/so it begins
« on: June 15, 2017, 09:54:14 PM »
I have been on 4 fin setups (Larry's) on different boards for five years now I actually wouldn't be without them.
If I go upwind, it is a lot easier to hold the board in that direction and not getting pushed out of track.

In sidechop same thing. The ventral helps the nose track and the rear fins keep the tail from being pushed.

When downwinding in smaller waves I can footsteer the board in parallell stance and it will turn hard when the board is leaned outwards and I think that is brilliant.
Downwinding in bigger waves, just step back and trim the board and fins. Then you lift the ventral out of the water and and take a surf stance and steer it like a surfboard. The three engaged fins now helps me hold the board on the wave.

When I do a bouy turn I lift the nose out of the water and the ventral is disengaged and the three rear fins makes it alot easier to balance the board. This goes especially when you have a large volume board like a Starboard. (What you have to do is to move the rear center box a bit forward from the factory made position because it is placed too far back).

For me it is all about trimming the board by moving around on the board and the 4fin setup helps me with what I whant to do. They are an aid when you trim the board.
Personally, I wouldn't buy a car without an airconditioning. I would like to be able to turn the AC on when I need it or choose not to use it when I don't want to.

Henrik F

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Gear Talk / Re: Fragile Naishboards?
« on: December 22, 2016, 10:57:41 PM »
Carbon and glass act very different in a impact, carbon is brittle and shaters on impact but damage should stay localised glass dissipates the impact more with less damage but over a larger area. The thing you really have to look for is the layup shedule they state which they have a habit of changing every year! Only take these with a pitch of salt though as they all have a habit of trying to  deceive everyone with minimal info. Most brands have had good and bad years on there race board line 13-14 was bad for sb 13,14,15 bad for fanatic naish were not great 15/16 from the ones I had in for repair. It's is also worth noting that often brands do not build all there boards in the same factory some of the cheaper constructions are often made with less skilled laybour and lower quality materials in other countries.

Exactly the years and brands my friend talks about but in Naish case there are just more damage and dings that just shouldn't be there. Spoke to him yesterday and he agrees with what you are saying. Almost all brands cut corners. It is not unusual to find boards where the carbon been sanded through and just painted over to cover it up. Some french boards are almost impossible to repair because the shape is so poor that they have used shitloads of filler to cover it up.
I am ordering a custom from my friend so that I know that I get what I want and the quality that everyone should expect from every company.

Cheers

Henrik F

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Gear Talk / Re: Fragile Naishboards?
« on: December 22, 2016, 12:14:45 PM »
Hello!
I have a friend here in Sweden who repairs and shapes boards. Everytime he gets a Naish (raceboard) in for repair the damage to them are extensive and some dings and damages are a bit hard to understand how they happened. Other brands are more straight forward. The ding is where it got hit but in a Naish case the ding seems to generate "aftershocks". Don't know how to explain it better. Does anyone have similar experience with Naish? Are they a bit more fragile than others? This concerns both the carbonboards and the raceboards that are supposed to be a bit more durable.

Henrik F

What are the year(s) having the most issues?

Seems like 2012 hollow, and raceboards 2013-16. No idea about 2017.
This is a pic of a 2016 (not full carbon) that seems to have been delivered like this. Plenty of water in this one.

Henrik F

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Gear Talk / Re: Fragile Naishboards?
« on: December 20, 2016, 09:10:37 PM »
I've talked to our local board repair guy about what brands are worse or more common than others and he says that Naish are one of the better made boards..

From my experience with Naish they used to be very strong and durable and over the years became lighter.. weaker.. and more fragile (especially the race boards) but this has been brought on to be competitive with other brands of light and fragile boards..

Naish have turned this around in recent years.. 2016 boards are better but 2017 boards are much much better.. They may weigh a little more but they are much stronger and stiffer.. The new Quest boards have amazing strength and durability.
.

Thanks DJ

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Gear Talk / Re: Fragile Naishboards?
« on: December 20, 2016, 09:10:09 PM »
I have heard similar things and its been in the more recent versions of the boards. I heard it might just be a bad batch but starboard is made out of the same factory not sure this helps any but yeah i have heard this alot lately in SO CAL

Thanks!

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Gear Talk / Fragile Naishboards?
« on: December 20, 2016, 12:55:14 PM »
Hello!
I have a friend here in Sweden who repairs and shapes boards. Everytime he gets a Naish (raceboard) in for repair the damage to them are extensive and some dings and damages are a bit hard to understand how they happened. Other brands are more straight forward. The ding is where it got hit but in a Naish case the ding seems to generate "aftershocks". Don't know how to explain it better. Does anyone have similar experience with Naish? Are they a bit more fragile than others? This concerns both the carbonboards and the raceboards that are supposed to be a bit more durable.

Henrik F

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Gear Talk / Re: ProBox Installations: Solid or Leaky?
« on: November 09, 2016, 09:12:19 AM »
I know two people who are great at installing Proboxes here in Sweden. Works brilliant and no leaking what so ever. I know they make a "coffin" out of divinycell, router in that one and then put a sock of fibreglass into it and then install the boxes. Bulletproof. (They also install Futures the same way if that is what one would want).

Henrik F

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Gear Talk / Re: Where to buy ventral fin?
« on: August 20, 2016, 06:46:06 AM »
It is brilliant. I have had AVS:s installed on boards since early 2013 One Bark Competitor, one Fanatic Falcon flatwater 14'x27,5" and one on my Starboard Allstar 12'6x26,5" 2014. Been paddling a while now without a ventral on a 14'x25" Starboard Allstar 2016. I don't have an issue with balance but holy shit! I miss it on downwind and upwind and waves from the side. The lack of projection that forces you to work SO much more just to keep the board going your way.... A ventral should be standard equipment on any race/touringboard. And, I must add that it is marvellous on DW. Engaged when needed and out of the water when you step back to footsteer the board.

Henrik F

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Gear Talk / Re: twin-fins-or-more-on-a-race-board/so it begins
« on: March 20, 2016, 01:28:46 AM »
Larry....is there a three fins configuration that will work without the ventrical fin? I would love the triples in the rear but really don't care for the look of the ventrical fin. Having another fin to deal with so far forward on the board, having to remove it to put the board in a bag or stacking boards for transport... While a small thing is annoying if you have deal with it every paddle.

Don't bother about the look of the ventral fin! It is a click-it fin and you can remove and put it back in a second. The ventral is so good for tracking, stability, side chop downwind, downwind and of course upwind. It helps in every direction. I have had it since early 2013 on three different boards. The ventral should be standard equipment on every raceboard produced. It is that good. The only drawback is that you have to step a little further back when doing a pivot turn.

Henrik F

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Gear Talk / Re: twin-fins-or-more-on-a-race-board/so it begins
« on: March 14, 2016, 11:25:32 AM »
Has the multi-fin concept found increased traction?

if a mainstream brand like infinity has gone to production boards with the concept, it's safe to say it found increased traction IMO
.
Below are some pics of this setup on a new SIC FX.

I've been playing around with few fin setups (different from the pics) and it substantially improved tracking and stability
over the stock SIC 8.3 fin, even with just the 2 4x11 inch twin fins. What also made a world of difference to me was the fact that
it's now possible for me to launch the board on low tide due-to the reduced fin height.

Hello!
I saw in the pics that you have a red and a blue insert at the same time. What is the purpose of different cants? 0 and 4 (I think). DOes that actually work? I have 0 on both sides and it works great because the tailpart is flat. Just wondering....
Henrik F

Hi Henrik, The different Canted inserts are different "Cants"yes,  but the fins are not Canted. The bottom on that custom board has a slight different roll from shaping. One side is off to the other, which is why 2 different Canted inserts are used to make the Probox Twins set straight upright to match each other. Another great feature of Probox Finsystems. You would be amazed how many boards have their fins at different cants with no one every saying anything and they would wonder why their board pulls more on one side to another. Mahalo, Larry
Thanks for the info Larry!

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Gear Talk / Re: twin-fins-or-more-on-a-race-board/so it begins
« on: March 13, 2016, 10:06:04 AM »
Has the multi-fin concept found increased traction?

if a mainstream brand like infinity has gone to production boards with the concept, it's safe to say it found increased traction IMO
.
Below are some pics of this setup on a new SIC FX.

I've been playing around with few fin setups (different from the pics) and it substantially improved tracking and stability
over the stock SIC 8.3 fin, even with just the 2 4x11 inch twin fins. What also made a world of difference to me was the fact that
it's now possible for me to launch the board on low tide due-to the reduced fin height.

Hello!
I saw in the pics that you have a red and a blue insert at the same time. What is the purpose of different cants? 0 and 4 (I think). DOes that actually work? I have 0 on both sides and it works great because the tailpart is flat. Just wondering....
Henrik F

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Gear Talk / Re: Something new from Rail Saver Pro.
« on: February 18, 2016, 06:56:44 AM »
Guys
We love RSPro rail tape NOTHING better But...
a friend of mine (a lurker here on the ZONE) turned me on to a 3M Edge Guard relatively inexpensive goes on easy and LASTS!
I put it on ALL beginner paddles (Carbon) and it saves a lot

but for Rail tape nothing beats the RS products

We stock these and offer ZONER discounts...Do you need a picture of the boxes or can you take my word?

JimK


Extreme Windsurfing

That 3M Edge Guard, is that the stuff that is made for cars (car doors)?

Henrik F

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Gear Talk / Re: 2016 SB all star (14x23) fin box to short for d.ching fin
« on: December 31, 2015, 08:15:00 AM »
Seems like a major oversight for such a prominent SUP company. Is the fin slot short on the 27 and 28" wide All Star as well? I imagine it would be.

It is done on purpose to eliminate the fin box "gaps", which are viewed as slowing the board. Obviously in doing so some long base fins will no longer work. Win some, lose some.

yugi, I'm sure it's done on purpose but I doubt the "gaps" argument holds any water. ;)
It looks like they changed their lineup for an 8" fin box so they can sell you their own fins.

This new fin box is conspicuously absent from their dedicated fin boxes webpage. http://star-board-sup.com/2016/fin-boxes/
It's not the first time I'm reading about it. Not a great user experience :(

I think you are right. They want to sell some extra gear too.

Henrik F

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