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Foil SUP / Re: Naish JetHA 2140 VS 1800

« on: June 27, 2023, 08:33:35 AM »

100p

I saw Robby Naish in 1987 in the Aloha Classic ripping. He blew my mind with what he was doing on the water. Im 8 years old at the time and Ill never forget it. I really never got it into Sailing/windsurf but def got bit by the waterbug later in life.

What I didnt know until super recently was that Naish was just bought by Kubus Sports: https://www.kubus-sports.nl/en

https://supboardermag.com/2023/01/18/naish-acquired-by-kubus-sports/#:~:text=Naish%2C%20the%20legendary%20Maui%20based,leading%20sports%20equipment%20brands%20platform.

I know you're just messing with me but I couldnt help reply..

How they handled my mast failure (both in messaging and in quick shipping) is super impressive. Its the kind of thing that builds brand allegiance. Ive always been drawn to Slingshot but I have to say Im having lot of fun on the Naish Jet Ha wings.

Peace!

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Foil SUP / Re: Naish JetHA 2140 VS 1800

« on: June 26, 2023, 03:51:15 PM »

Im starting to think that Naish is the fight club of the FOIL world.. 1st rule of Naish Foils dont talk about Naish Foils. 

I had the 1800 out the other day and it was really fun. Its faster but seemed like it didnt want to get on plane as fast (which makes sense given the shorter chord length). I felt like I struggled on the 1800 at the time but seeing the video (which by the way is my first seeing myself third person - Big Ups Adam!!)

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx8LE0SI-25WS40yzpznflRJRkC__tv-xT

Im starting to think it may be a good stepping stone for me. Ill def look to the 1800 for a winging wing. But the downfalls of the 1800 VS 2140 may not hold me back from giving the 1800 a go as a SUPfoil carver in my local tidal swell. Seems like it will be faster with little drawbacks other than higher drag and lower stall speed. I think I take that trade. We shall see!

Anyways all good.. cheers from BC Canada.

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Foil SUP / Naish JetHA 2140 VS 1800

« on: June 22, 2023, 12:30:47 PM »

Frothers,

Just wondering if anyone runs the Jet HA wings from Naish as a go to SUPFOIL wing? I have the 2140 now and haven learn to flat water start her reliably. I was able to score a rad deal from NAISH on a 1800 front wing as a part of the warranty claim on the S26 75cm alum mast. (I am looking sooo forward to testing my S27 35Carbon 85cm mast BTW).

The 2140 has unreal low speed lift but admittedly feels like she has a really tricky stall speed. Its a mid-high aspect wing so shes fast but I specifically wondering if the move to a 1800 will let me build more sped and effectively release a little better. The 2140 is a bit of a pig. She lifts like crazy but kills my speed often. I wonder if Im in for a treat with less drag and more speed and just thought Id ask the crew.

Has anyone gone down this path?

I am betting on the idea that the 1800 will be a great winging wing so if the SUPFoil exercise doesn't pan out I have that as a go-to.



 

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Foil SUP / Re: Naish BasePlate Delam??

« on: June 20, 2023, 08:48:04 AM »

Hey hey.. just thought I would post a reply here. I have engaged Naish USA and they have been more than rad! Huge plus for Naish and the Naish team. Super quick to reply and helpful.

Its support like this that build brand loyalty. Sheit happens and how a company reacts to failures like this says a lot about the company. Rad to report!

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Foil SUP / Naish BasePlate Delam??

« on: June 18, 2023, 08:37:13 PM »

Frothers, I had my Naish JET26 baseplate separate from my mast today. I was super relieved that my deck and FOIL were in tact. I can vouch that the Naish FOILs and masts float!



Has this happened to anyone? For those of you who dont run Naish there is an insert and bolt assembly missing from the mast. It just simply delam'd mid run.

Ive sent a note to usa@naish but I thought I would base on here to see what the deal is. It seems like they should help a guy out after such a massive failure. I really dont see how I could have prevented that. What do you guys think?

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Foil SUP / Re: Balancing on Barricuda Style Boards

« on: April 04, 2023, 11:09:49 AM »

Hdip - I second that. The longer 8X21"X6" board travels in the water night and day different between my 106L SUPFOIL (which I am now using for a winging)

Yugi - its worth the investment 110%

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Foil SUP / Re: My SUP FOIL Journey Begins!

« on: April 02, 2023, 08:45:41 PM »

First time up, and it was glorious..



Im STOOOOKED for the next 6 months. As what I saw today we do get in tidal swells often. Im pretty blown away at the FOIL and the angles that it powers up in. Ill pull across the board in a J stroke and at a certain angle the FOIL will start to power up down the line of the receding tidal water line. Its addicting and I am all in!!! Ill close this thread out. Massive thanks to you guys in the SUZ! PonoBill, PAfoil, Badger, Jondrums, Hdip, Sus4life, 

Ill be doing my Jeremy Riggs training drills with hopes to keep progressing. Building on the trajectory of the last month is best case scenario for me boys.

Peace!

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Foil SUP / Re: My SUP FOIL Journey Begins!

« on: March 23, 2023, 10:16:59 AM »

I finally felt the proper lifting action from accurate paddling and foil action.

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxRVkvRC9KTlMerin5AyL_kgSKmZ3_Epva

I honestly wasnt sure what do to when I felt the lift.. like a kid caught with his hand in the cookie jar.. haha. Now that Ive felt that Im on a mission to get more accurate, efficient and be able to build on this progress. I can see super clearly the work im putting in now is the foundation for what is to come.

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Foil SUP / Re: My SUP FOIL Journey Begins!

« on: March 15, 2023, 12:02:59 PM »

Hi Badger, what you're seeing in the video is largely a receding tidal current plus some small wakes. Im amazed at how my foil will power up with these water movements though. Its surprising me.. and catching me off guard. One side of the foil wing will power up in this swell .. pretty neat. Just have to dial in my attack angle. Im 3 sessions in but I think I will dial that in fairly quickly. Just knowing about it is unreal. I knew it would be a lot of fun, but its surpassed my expectations. Its wicked fun just trying to be out there playing the wave/tidal energy. The foil when she is spoiling up has way more power than I thought there would be. Sooo fun just trying to get a grip on her..

Yugi:) The foil track mount position is a bit of a choose your own adventure situation IMHO. I found that when I have the foil mounted at the front of the track I am able to get some lift from the nose of the board but really its a pivot point that feel right to me. Now I need to get more elevation (which I believe to be from the lack of back foot pressure) off the power stroke. The angle of incidence is lacking and I dont get the board rising enough to gain the space necessary to drive the foil forward and down. Something Im keying in on now. Daswusup said it best.. working the board while still creates a map of the balance point of the board and foil. I suspect that balance point is unique to each board and foil combo. Dialling in the correct board pressure, and ultimately the correct foil action is what we are after. The mast position is just a piece of the equation. If I put the mast position further back it would create a different position for my back foot to work with on the power stroke. At the moment I need more positive angle and therefore it will stay on the front of the track. I may dial it back at some point but not before I am getting on FOIL reliably. If I took her winging im sure I could dial it back as i would have the power needed in the wing (hand held) to put the right attack angle in the FOIL.

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Foil SUP / Re: Balancing on Barricuda Style Boards

« on: March 14, 2023, 04:11:49 PM »

Congrats on the PB's Beasho. Gives me encouragement to the max!

Daswusup - I read your post about sinking and counter sinking... that helped me a lot. I feel like the exploration of the centre of gravity and the stretching of the foils' dynamic characteristics is like uncovering a hidden map. Im seeing and feeling my progression and Im stoked boys. STOKED.

Steamroller - sic HOT pink deck you have there mate. I like it mucho! 

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Foil SUP / Re: My SUP FOIL Journey Begins!

« on: March 14, 2023, 02:03:18 PM »

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxVmjPGjovf8AKtdaw33Zo7E77UDK9haCl

I think my back foot pressure and timing can be improved. Its great conditioning but my gut tells me to focus on the timing and efficiency.

Baby steps baby.. the stoke is growing!!

Any pointers from the frothers crew would be amazing. Not many paddle foilers out my way..

Im off to study the Riggs videos in particular the Casey catch up with Jeremy Riggs DW series #13 on youtube. 

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Foil SUP / Re: My SUP FOIL Journey Begins!

« on: March 07, 2023, 05:50:09 AM »

I'm curious. How did you determine where to put the foil in the tracks? Did you wing foil it first?

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Hey Badger, no I havent yet, but I will when the winds up. Im just experimenting at the moment but def forward of center. This session was about an 2inches back from the front. Im going try a pinch more forward on the weekend.

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Foil SUP / Re: My SUP FOIL Journey Begins!

« on: March 06, 2023, 09:53:00 PM »

Very pretty, and it's a great idea to get something more robust to start with. The Kalama custom boards use carbon patches top and bottom, a little uni carbon on the rail, and the rest is light glass. I don't know what the schedule is, but from pressing my fingers on them I'd say not more than two layers of 6oz. The only thing holding me back from getting one for light wind winging (and maybe someday if I have a bunch of liposuction done, I might be able to SUP downwind one) is that I'd destroy it in a week. I'm heavy and clumsy. Not a good combo.

thank you Pono!

Sharpening the angle of attack on the catch is my new mission. Lower, quieter and more snap. Im still struggling to visualize the foil turning over WITH the power stroke, still not in the right body position, Im making progress though. What is stuck in my head at the moment is the Jeremy Riggs idea of your paddle being quicker at the end of the stroke than the beginning. I have limited paddle experience so perhaps its common place but this simple idea changed the way I am thinking about my paddle stroke. Powering in more of a half oval motion. My shoulders and back loved this very much,.

Here she is in the water.. better than I could have hoped for. Im all set for 6 months speed/paddle training @ 3 times a week. 2 hour per sessions. I figure by Sept Ill have the paddle power to get up to foil. We shall see!

https://youtu.be/kZqrmTUS8-I?t=22

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Foil SUP / Re: My SUP FOIL Journey Begins!

« on: March 01, 2023, 05:00:07 PM »

Fellow frothers...

I took receipt of my DW Carbon sled last night. Had to share in the pre-stoke as Ive yet to have her in the water yet. That comes this weekend. Jay from Inouye Customs in Deep Cove killed this build. Im stoked beyond measure and cant wait to ramp on her. Ill post after I get some water time. Im in no rush really.. just stoked bloody stoked. Since commissioning this build Ive seen many been able to get up on flatwater using simular DIM'd boards. Ill have to earn my flights.. Im stoked boys.

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Foil SUP / Re: My SUP FOIL Journey Begins!

« on: January 12, 2023, 01:05:52 PM »

Hi All,

After careful consideration (and saving up) I have pulled the trigger on a custom carbon deck. DIMS - 8 X 21 X 6 @ 131L

I looked hard at the Sunova Aviator Elite and the Kalama offering. In the end the idea of supporting my local shaper (who is a beauty) and being able to have a full carbon deck sealed the deal. I will follow up with pics and a review when I can. Im OBV stoked to see what I can do once I get my hand on her. The pursuit continues..