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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: F-One Swing
« on: December 09, 2019, 12:51:52 PM »
Copy, DW.   This kinda reminds me of kites in the early 2000s.  "What happens if I..?"  I lost two boards and (luckily) a whole kite (dangerous POS, 3-liner from Canada) in the first years.


General Discussion / Re: A little SUP spinning this week
« on: December 09, 2019, 12:42:46 PM »
...'cudda sword you had that, Rikets! 


Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: F-One Swing
« on: December 09, 2019, 07:54:54 AM »
HB,  "I think I'll try a couple more session of slogging before I try and get up on the foil,"    ....that's an interesting approach. Who'd a thought? 

I'd bet most people simply 'Charge!' and go-for-it. (the foil)  ' Makes a lot of sense to me. (not having done either) Perhaps like getting comfortable on flatwater before you hit the waves on a regular SUP.  I'll bet you bypass some frustration.  Good luck.


Gear Talk / Re: Sunova Torpedo
« on: December 09, 2019, 07:28:30 AM »
LB, The first pic looks like they washed up at high tide and some lucky hikers (..' just happen to have paddles) found them.

The contrast is striking, how much effort Sunova has made to introduce new product and well they seem to be doing compared to the 'big' brands of a few years ago. 


Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Wing specific boards
« on: December 07, 2019, 10:58:16 AM »
Thanks for that link, S-K.  I was thinking ...if I ever -was-maybe- interested I would get beat to c'hit ..carbon bloodied and hardboard battered.  The F-One blimp looks perfect - 'cept for two details. It is only Tuttle and there are no provisions for footstraps.

There's the Indiana (funny name...) brand with those features but it's microscopic from my perspective.

There's the Brunotti RDP Glider but check out that mast placement!  (maybe they were working on a 2-way foil)

Only slightly interested....  Jim.

This is some great information - I print out the solid bits.  Thanks to all who contribute.


Gear Talk / Re: First Hardboard
« on: December 01, 2019, 09:03:05 AM »
Maarten,  One thing not mentioned - the nose shape of the board.  I often paddle backwater like Creek, in his videos, and in open larger bay areas. When there is a breeze we get a 7-15cm short, quick chop ...and for some reason, the longer paddle legs seems to always be on a diagonal. 

I had  a dedicated 'cruising' board that people loved but it had a plumb stem (vertical nose) compared to a dinner plate, surf nose.  I was forever getting slapped sideways. I had to work extra hard to hold a course.  The surf nose rode over the top of these bumps. That race shape must benefit racers -it is quite common- but I quickly sold the board.


Big thanks, guys!   I'd have difficulty with that Jupiter launch, Dwight.  I'm a crip with an INOP left foot due to back issues, so it takes me an inordinately long time, atop a forward over-balance, to stand on anything, whereas with kites - the buggers yanked me up with my feet already established in footstraps. I cannot go back to kites, nor do I want the setup complications compared to these wings, but I love the wind.

I theorize - if I can do a semi-sinker start (without the board wanting 180 on me) I can get the wing high enough to help stabilize me as I slowly gain forward momentum.  I tried a couple of boards, pretending the wing was a kite, with me on my back in the shallows, fail.  It seems it would have taken a very strong wind ...while, blowing you out of position in thick chop. My arms were not long enough (flaccid extensions do not work) to sufficiently elevate and angle the wing to gain power.   I still think it doable... 

Boss,  "I practiced pushing the board deep with my feet by standing and then allowing it to come back up by crouching again."  That's the action I was imagining.  It will be a while before our water is warm enough to make that happen, but I hope to get South for some boat tow instruction.  Thanks again.


I don't care whether it is choosing a decent paddle, board or learning a technique, this forum is a godsend of information.  Thanks to all who participate. 

Boss,  I'm a visual learner 'settings' cut the playback speed to .25 the first 5 seconds of this video what you are doing?  Is your board also 'nose high'?  Would you think that board appears corky?  Sorry for the ignorance, but foiling can look like murky water will Bull sharks.


 Boss...  Clarify, to someone who does not have the experience to visualize your words...  You are able to stand on the board while it is underwater, positioning your feet, then, getting the wing powered up, ja? 

I am pretty sure I understand the business about 'too corky' - the volume exceeds your ability to keep sunk/stable...  How much (%) stability does the foil add?

Then, how much of you is above the waterline?  You mention foothooks, but you were able to do this without straps?  My primary concern: wing re-starts.  I'd have to have a backpack to accommodate gear for hiking out of saltwater marshes  ..a nasty slog at best.  Thanks.


(single line typing is coming out double?)

I have never had exposure to language, but even I can read that...  This guy is fun.

What brought me to the above was his first attempt at using a variety of boards to wing.  ...also, fun.


Gear Talk / Re: The longboard SUP I shudda waited for!
« on: November 22, 2019, 12:08:02 PM »
Rick, When you do your post - tell me what model that was?  I hate to think of the resale of my 'Mistress' (actual board model name!) but men are known to lust for 'prettier/newer'.


Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Wing - no tail?!
« on: November 22, 2019, 05:24:29 AM »
I remembered a tailless flyer done by a NASA engineer.  With an Elizabethan name, Barnaby Wainfan, he had to be the smartest kid in school and probably developed quick fists.  He published a book on airfoils and done other exotica within aviation.  I had not heard that he said it, but it seems apparent; 'it is not only smooth that lifts'.


Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Wing - no tail?!
« on: November 21, 2019, 02:25:58 PM »
JEG - Ya, but... Commercial airlines haul a load-a-c'hit to make $$ so need a long, empty cavity to fill, MIL needs frantic maneuverability and massive power, so they need tailplanes. Even little ole' Cessnas move thru a lot of airspace compared to that guy on the foil. 

I'd bet -if one guy is working on it- others will notice. There's fun ahead if enough early adaptors fund progress.


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